News Sam Hayes signs for North Melbourne VFL

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Saw a team photo from the Advertiser this week. Sam is clearly taller than Dixon, Lycett and Ladhams. He must go 205 or 206cm.
 

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I would have liked to have seen Sam play this year but in all honesty he wasn't quite ready.

When you see the amount of work Lycett and Ladhams do in unrewarded running, combined with their size and strength you realise the physical demands on an AFL ruckman.

Hayes is tracking well and should get his chance next year to show what he can do.

We don't have enough ruck depth to just let him or Ladhams go. Stick it out at he best footy club in Australia and when the opportunity comes next year, grab it and don't let go!
 
He's contracted until the end of 2023 which lines up with the end of Lycett's contract. I don't think Lycett is going to see out the contract as a regular member of our team. I would think Hayes will get a fair look in next year provided he stays, but who knows? If we were a team in the middle of a rebuild I wouldn't hesitate playing the young guy, but you can't rely on someone so inexperienced when your expectation is a flag.

Fascinated to see how the coaches potentially try to balance this.
 
Ford Fairlane said:
I would have liked to have seen Sam play this year but in all honesty he wasn't quite ready.

When you see the amount of work Lycett and Ladhams do in unrewarded running, combined with their size and strength you realise the physical demands on an AFL ruckman.

Hayes is tracking well and should get his chance next year to show what he can do.

We don't have enough ruck depth to just let him or Ladhams go. Stick it out at he best footy club in Australia and when the opportunity comes next year, grab it and don't let go!
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We also must also remember with his knee and covid19 he missed 2 seasons of playing. Absolutely no doubt with another pre-season he WILL play next year and I'm predicting early!
 
Yeah ideally we look to at time manage lycett through the 2022 season as lycetts knees always seem to look proppy as games go on.

get a good preseason into hayes and try to get him 3+ games next year and then in 2023 hopefully he’s pushing lycett for selection and gets 8-22 games and establishes himself as our ruck going forward.
 

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Chewy316 said:
He's contracted until the end of 2023 which lines up with the end of Lycett's contract. I don't think Lycett is going to see out the contract as a regular member of our team. I would think Hayes will get a fair look in next year provided he stays, but who knows? If we were a team in the middle of a rebuild I wouldn't hesitate playing the young guy, but you can't rely on someone so inexperienced when your expectation is a flag.

Fascinated to see how the coaches potentially try to balance this.
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Lots around here seem to want to call time on Scott's career. He's 28 and a very good ruck, if not quite elite. He's got great skill for a guy of his size, wins his position more often than not and plays like an absolute warrior. If someone wants his spot they'll be needing to prize it from his cold dead hand.
 
jakey said:
Lots around here seem to want to call time on Scott's career. He's 28 and a very good ruck, if not quite elite. He's got great skill for a guy of his size, wins his position more often than not and plays like an absolute warrior. If someone wants his spot they'll be needing to prize it from his cold dead hand.
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Where does it say that I want to call time on Scooter? I openly said in the aforementioned post that because we are contending I wouldn't be just giving the #1 ruck role on the regular to a guy who hasn't played at AFL level before. He will need to be eased in regardless.

I love Scooter but he has his limitations and his knees are an issue at times. I don't think it should be an expectation that he should be a walk up start in the #1 ruck role next year in games where the oppo don't have a true elite #1 ruck.
 
Chewy316 said:
Where does it say that I want to call time on Scooter? I openly said in the aforementioned post that because we are contending I wouldn't be just giving the #1 ruck role on the regular to a guy who hasn't played at AFL level before. He will need to be eased in regardless.

I love Scooter but he has his limitations and his knees are an issue at times. I don't think it should be an expectation that he should be a walk up start in the #1 ruck role next year in games where the oppo don't have a true elite #1 ruck.
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Yeah more of a response to the vibe of a number of posts than yours specifically. My point is he'll be 30 at the end of his contract and still in prime age for a ruck. If Hayes gets a crack and proves undroppable, awesome, but going past Lycett is a pretty high bar.
 
Ford Fairlane said:
I would have liked to have seen Sam play this year but in all honesty he wasn't quite ready.

When you see the amount of work Lycett and Ladhams do in unrewarded running, combined with their size and strength you realise the physical demands on an AFL ruckman.

Hayes is tracking well and should get his chance next year to show what he can do.

We don't have enough ruck depth to just let him or Ladhams go. Stick it out at he best footy club in Australia and when the opportunity comes next year, grab it and don't let go!
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Sam Hayes has been on the list for 4 seasons. He lost a season with an ACL reco and a season with covid, playing some mickey mouse practice games last year. His development has been stalled by bad luck and bad timing.

I suspect Sam and the club are clear on his development and the hindrances he has faced and are both well aware of where he is at before he gets an AFL debut.

No need to trade him, no need for him to walk away.
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
Sam Hayes has been on the list for 4 seasons. He lost a season with an ACL reco and a season with covid, playing some mickey mouse practice games last year. His development has been stalled by bad luck and bad timing.

I suspect Sam and the club are clear on his development and the hindrances he has faced and are both well aware of where he is at before he gets an AFL debut.

No need to trade him, no need for him to walk away.
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Think we "manage" Scott and Pistol next year, and Hayes gets a taste with 5 or 6 games to educate him regarding where he needs to improve.
 
Sam thrashed Hannath from Glenelg who is third in hitouts this season, 40 hitouts to 19.
 
Hayes has to play in 2021. I’d start him 1R.
He’s a genuine tap ruckman that can drop a kick behind the ball and take a grab. Needs to play.

I reckon Lycett is the elephant in the room. What chance we can turn Scotty into a KPD? Too slow?
 
bringbackbucky said:
Hayes has to play in 2021. I’d start him 1R.
He’s a genuine tap ruckman that can drop a kick behind the ball and take a grab. Needs to play.

I reckon Lycett is the elephant in the room. What chance we can turn him into a KPD? Too slow?
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Lycett can't defend, he should never be in the back 50.
 

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