Conspiracy Theory Sandy Hook - Dec 2012 alleged school shooting at Newtown, Connecticut

[Smiling Buddha]

Have you ever looked into the Sandy Hook incident? I personally hadn't even heard any of the alternative theories on this one until relatively recently. In fact I barely remembered any of the details about the event, as I tended to avoid these stories because of my aversion to the way the MSM profits from peoples misery and other peoples reactions to that misery.

So when I did come across the alternative theories I decided to spend some time looking into the facts... and was left wondering, 'what. in. the. ****?'. Are people supposed to accept this nonsense? I can't blame somebody who has never looked into this one for believing the Official Story - in a tacit way, I used to believe it too, I guess.

I ask you to simply look over some of the evidence for yourself. The best expose on the matter I have come across so far is this piece from Veterans Today. But before you read that, just watch these short clips.

Robbie Parker, father of one of the alleged victims.


Chief medical examiner H. Wayne Carver. Has to be seen to be believed.


Friendly neighbour Gene Rosen. If you bother to look further into this, you'll see plenty more of this guy.


And finally the aftermath of the event.

 

[TheMase]

What about the people going in and out of buildings in a loop? I followed this one from the start, it all started when I saw the start of the Mr Parker interview.

 

[Jaeger]

 

[Smiling Buddha]

What about the people going in and out of buildings in a loop? I followed this one from the start, it all started when I saw the start of the Mr Parker interview.

Yeah, it was the Parker interview that first made me think, 'Hold on a second here'.

As for the video of the people walking around like zombies, the best part is that the same helicopter camera angle shows that old mate Gene Rosen is one of the people walking around!



There are other videos out there which better show the circle-walking you are talking about, though. Here's one:

 

[TheMase]

Yep that's the one. The whole thing stunk from the start, so much didn't add up.

 

[WinmarToLockett]

Umm... why is the title of this thread called "alleged" school shooting at Newtown, Connecticut?

I love a good conspiracy, but seriously, not EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. Sometimes shit happens just because shit happens.

 

[Smiling Buddha]

Umm... why is the title of this thread called "alleged" school shooting at Newtown, Connecticut?

Adam Lanza was alleged to have carried out a school shooting.

He was never proven guilty.

Therefore the allegations against him remain just that: allegations.

 

[EagleShore]

Yes. I too followed this from the start. Some Canadian woman has done a 1.5 hour presentation that I will find tomorrow and put up (it is comprehensive and focuses on facts).

Dodgy as all get-up. Nothing in this one makes sense - ambulances were blocked in, weird actors involved, barely a single tear etc.

Not sure of the motivation as gun law reform has been and always will be stifled in the US, unlike here. Very different culture plus, you know, the NRA is one of the main sources of funding for the Republican arm of the puppet organisation known as the US government.

 

[Smiling Buddha]

Not sure of the motivation as gun law reform has been and always will be stifled in the US, unlike here.

I would have thought that would add weight to the theory, rather than detract from it.

Very different culture plus, you know, the NRA is one of the main sources of funding for the Republican arm of the puppet organisation known as the US government.

Yes which makes it even more important that Obama disarms the population before the next presidential election - although in saying that, it looks clear to me that the Democrats will win again, likely with Hillary at the helm, with the Tea Party splitting the Republican vote once again.

 

[ablett]

I'm always suspicious when a massacre occurs then the accused killer is found to be an internet geek on Prozac diagnosed with schizophrenia & a known passion for guns whim often plays killing games.
Sound familiar?
Th perfect scapegoat , they fit the typical killers profile according to the public-no questions asked, why would someone sane go on a rampage causing multiple vitalities.
I worked in mental health for a while & majority of psychiatric patients are paranoid of guns, severely lack the skill to operate a gun & have the mind set to carry out the task of a massacre.

They show no remorse cos they didn't do it.

 

[WinmarToLockett]

It's too late to disarm America, there are literally millions of unregistered firearms in the country.

OK, aside from the fact you've got a ****load of people who are filmed acting strangely, what other evidence is there these shootings didn't happen?

 

[Smiling Buddha]

OK, aside from the fact you've got a ****load of people who are filmed acting strangely, what other evidence is there these shootings didn't happen?

What evidence is there that the shootings did happen?

The parents never even got to see any bodies.

That is if you believe that there were bodies to be seen, which itself is highly questionable.

Notice anything interesting about the following photos?

Look into it for yourself, friend. See what you can find.

 

[WinmarToLockett]

What evidence is there that the shootings did happen?

A lot more eyewitness accounts than I'm prepared to believe are staged.

The parents never even got to see any bodies.

If true, this is probably for the benefit.

Notice anything interesting about the following photos?

They look a little photoshopped, but if there's something else I'm missing, please elaborate.

The videos you posted are a bit weird but then again I'm not exactly sure how people in extraordinarily difficult situations are supposed to react to them so I'll reserve my judgement.

 

[Smiling Buddha]

A lot more eyewitness accounts than I'm prepared to believe are staged.

Which eyewitnesses? Who do you know of that has claimed they saw Adam Lanza shooting people?

They look a little photoshopped

And that doesn't bother you?

Look at 'Emilie' in the top photo. Not only is it clear from shading that she has been photoshopped into that picture, it is glaringly obvious that the picture was framed for four people. Now why might that be?

Also, there's no way that America can disarm their population, there's just too many unregistered firearms in the country.

The theory goes that first they need to disarm the law-abiding citizens. That'll help stop any revolutionaries from getting any ideas. Then they can declare martial law and shoot the remaining gun owners (all of whom will now be, by definition, criminals) on the spot.

 

[WinmarToLockett]

Which eyewitnesses? Who do you know of that has claimed they saw Adam Lanza shooting people?

Well, no one personally, of course. But it's a little hard to believe the lives of godknows how many people involved in the massacre could be entirely fabricated without someone in Conneticut going "hang on a minute". They'd be a hell of a lot more evidence than a photoshopped picture. I mean there's the hundreds of kids that moved to other schools in the aftermath of the shooting. Surely at least one of them would have posted a message on reddit by now saying "i've never heard of any of these kids"... but they haven't.

Look at 'Emilie' in the top photo. Not only is it clear from shading that she has been photoshopped into that picture, it is glaringly obvious that the picture was framed for four people. Now why might that be?

Not sure entirely that the photo was framed for four people but whatever. It looks like the background has been changed. Why? Maybe to protect the privacy of completely unrelated people? To keep the location private? To make a "better" image? Are you suggesting that "Emilie" never existed?

The theory goes that first they need to disarm the law-abiding citizens. That'll help stop any revolutionaries from getting any ideas. Then they can declare martial law and shoot the remaining gun owners (all of whom will now be, by definition, criminals) on the spot.

And why the **** would the American government want to kill their own citizens by making guns illegal. They're killing eachother already because guns are legal.

 

[Smiling Buddha]

Well, no one personally, of course. But it's a little hard to believe the lives of godknows how many people involved in the massacre could be entirely fabricated without someone in Conneticut going "hang on a minute".

Yep, and it is that line of logic that I used to follow when I denounced people who claimed that American intelligence agencies were spying on people the world over. 'As if that many people could keep a secret', I would say.

Not sure entirely that the photo was framed for four people but whatever. It looks like the background has been changed. Why? Maybe to protect the privacy of completely unrelated people? To keep the location private? To make a "better" image? Are you suggesting that "Emilie" never existed?

I'm asking why you believe that 'Emilie' did exist.

And why the **** would the American government want to kill their own citizens by making guns illegal. They're killing eachother already because guns are legal.

It is called democide. It has happened plenty of times before and will happen again.

 

[WinmarToLockett]

Yep, and it is that line of logic that I used to follow when I denounced people who claimed that American intelligence agencies were spying on people the world over. 'As if that many people could keep a secret', I would say.

Of course the American government was spying on people. How could you not think this? Anyway the answer is "No", that many people could not keep a secret, hence many of the unethical activities of the American intelligence agencies have been reported in the mainstream press.

Anyway getting back to the topic; we're talking about kids aged like 10 here who are supposed to be "in" on this conspiracy. There's just less than 2,000 people in the town, and you really think that close to 30 victims could be absolutely fabricated out of thin air without at least a few of the people of the town going "This is bullshit". Unless you think the entire population of Sandy Hook is part of the conspiracy, in which case I'll have to ask why the all-powerful American government/Illuminati bothered paying thousands of government officials, crooked cops, ambulance drivers, journalists, child actors and other random people for one giant hoax when they could have just paid one lunatic to just walk into the school and actually kill a bunch of people? I mean, get one guy to go on a rampage, or get a couple of thousand people to keep their mouth shut about the government faking a mass murder. What do you think is going to be more successful?

And of course the net result of this tragedy is even more guns entered the population because everyone decided they needed to "protect" themselves from crazy gunmen, so if disarming the population was the plan, this has been a mmmasssiiivvveee failure.

I'm asking why you believe that 'Emilie' did exist.

Why do you believe she didn't? Because of two pictures you saw on the internet?

 

[Smiling Buddha]

we're talking about kids aged like 10 here who are supposed to be "in" on this conspiracy.

They don't need to be 'in' on any conspiracy, they just need to say a few lines they've been told to say by their parents. Go and have a look at the lines trotted out by the kids on camera.

There's just less than 2,000 people in the town, and you really think that close to 30 victims could be absolutely fabricated out of thin air without at least a few of the people of the town going "This is bullshit".

How many families do you know down at your local primary school? And even if you felt you knew the community really well, how do you think you'd be treated by people if you suggested there might be something dodgy going on and that some of the victims were fabricated?

And of course the net result of this tragedy is even more guns entered the population because everyone decided they needed to "protect" themselves from crazy gunmen, so if disarming the population was the plan, this has been a mmmasssiiivvveee failure

You're judging the outcome too soon. Obama has said he will enact disarming legislation 'with or without' Congressional support. There is time left in this one. And I think you misunderstand the term 'disarm'. I am talking about removing peoples legal right to own certain weapons; it doesn't matter if a few more people have bought a few more handguns since Sandy Hook, what will matter is when more guns and ammunition varieties are banned.

Why do you believe she didn't? Because of two pictures you saw on the internet?

The burden of proof lay on those claiming that the Official Story did take place as reported. Without seeing evidence to support the notion that Adam Lanza shot 26 people in the space of a few minutes, for no apparent reason, why would you believe that he did? Just because TV says so?

 

[The Slitherin' Snake]

What evidence is there that the shootings did happen?

The parents never even got to see any bodies.

That is if you believe that there were bodies to be seen, which itself is highly questionable.

Notice anything interesting about the following photos?


Look into it for yourself, friend. See what you can find.

You've said that the parents never got to see the bodies but then also said the victims didn't exist. That doesn't make any sense.

Are you suggesting that a parent should be able to see the body of their non-existent murdered child?

 

[Smiling Buddha]

I didn't say the victims didn't exist. I am asking why other people believe they existed.

If the answer is, 'because tv says so', then I would ask you to question why you have so much faith in a box in your house whose message is controlled by very powerful interests.

 

[EagleShore]

This woman presents a comprehensive overview of Sandy Hook. Not 100% sure of her "dimensions" but that notion helps one to grasp the levels on which these events occur...the event at the location, the community reaction, the media, and the public at large.



Sandy Hook is apparently a very odd little area and there is photo comparison of some of the grieving adults being some kind of high-flying family. I lost all my bookmarks for this and everything else last fortnight as I had to re-install Windows.

There was a drill running concurrently with the actual event (sound familiar? - 9/11 and the London bombings). This seems to be a common link between all the false flag type events of late.

 

[EagleShore]

While that video seems decent, I generally don't quote anything from Infowars or it's figurehead Alex Jones. He is a disinformation specialist. Though, as I said, I agree with everything in that particular video...

 

[Smiling Buddha]

While that video seems decent, I generally don't quote anything from Infowars or it's figurehead Alex Jones. He is a disinformation specialist. Though, as I said, I agree with everything in that particular video...

I feel precisely the same way, but that video was too good to ignore just because of Jones' involvement.

You make a good point though; Jones is at best a loon and at worst a CIA plant.

It was fools like him who first led me to dismiss the 'conspiracy theory' community several years ago.

Only now, many years later, have I pieced together enough of the puzzle to realise that the Official Stories of our time are invariably bullshit.

War, economy, finance, education, television/radio/newspapers, government, psychiatry, nutrition, you name it: all bullshit.

But because I identified people like Jones as loons all those years ago, I threw the baby out with the bathwater and carried on my merry way, not bothering to look into things like Sandy Hook because that was the realm of the Alex Joneses of the world.

Which is why I now suspect he may well be a CIA plant, to put people like me off questioning the Official Stories.

As I said, though, that video is a cracker.

 

[ablett]

Watched some interesting clips last night.
One clip linked Adam Lanza's father to the CIA and is associated with John Homes(batman theatre massacre) Father.
Very interesting.

 

[clogged]

Notice anything interesting about the following photos?

Look into it for yourself, friend. See what you can find.

No. What am I missing about these photos?