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Reckon he must be injured. Didn't play for BH last week at Waverly either, was seen up in Hawthorn rooms.
 
He is going to have to show us something this year, he was afterall the first player we picked in the draft a few years ago, his form at Box Hill late last year was poor, lets hope the kid doesn't turn out to be another Thorp/dowler disaster.
 
realhawk said:
He is going to have to show us something this year, he was afterall the first player we picked in the draft a few years ago, his form at Box Hill late last year was poor, lets hope the kid doesn't turn out to be another Thorp/dowler disaster.
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Geez, there are some high expectations. It seems like if they aren't dominating in the seniors by the time they are 20 y.o certain folks are writing them off. Schoenmakers has shown enough for me to believe that he will be a good player for us. Based on attitude alone he is way ahead of either of either Thorp or Dowler.
 
hawks_time said:
Yeah, some people are having high expectations because he was a relatively high draft pick and played a few good games early on. How many KPP chosen in the same draft are big stand outs?
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There are at least a dozen talls that have shown more at this stage IMHO.
 
realhawk said:
He is going to have to show us something this year, he was afterall the first player we picked in the draft a few years ago, his form at Box Hill late last year was poor, lets hope the kid doesn't turn out to be another Thorp/dowler disaster.
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Trade bait for this years trade...
 
The kid has so far been played in a position that is completely foreign to his whole junior career. He did ok, considering the difficult nature of playing KPD and his young years and underdeveloped frame.

Let's not drive a sword through his career just yet, as he will take some time to mature into the role. Schoey will need time to grow into whichever role he is given, be in back or forward. He just needs to find a bit of grunt to counter the lack of speed he has. He'll be right.
 
Collins-Langford-Ayres said:
There are at least a dozen talls that have shown more at this stage IMHO.
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At least a dozen? Care to name them?
I'll help. NicNat, Hurley, Davis have definitely shown more, but were also chosen before so can hardly be said to be brought up in a 'drafting blunder' discussion. Watts and Vickery have shown about as much, if not less than the Cobbler. Ayce Cordy hasn't played a game, Jordan Roughead has shown glimpses but not much else, I like Jayden Post but he hasn't done much. Feel free to add.
 

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IBleedBrownNGold said:
The kid has so far been played in a position that is completely foreign to his whole junior career. He did ok, considering the difficult nature of playing KPD and his young years and underdeveloped frame.

Let's not drive a sword through his career just yet, as he will take some time to mature into the role. Schoey will need time to grow into whichever role he is given, be in back or forward. He just needs to find a bit of grunt to counter the lack of speed he has. He'll be right.
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Am I the only person here who finds that statement somewhat incronguous?

At his draft camp our dearest little Schoey won the repeat sprints. In his first game he kept lock step with Wojcinski in a 50 m sprint to the boundary.

So why on earth is he, a mere two years later, now so slow? :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
The extra bulk he is carrying could have a bit to do with his speed.

It takes time to grow into bulk and a growing body.

But where is he now, is he injured? How's the lad going?

Will we see him tearing it up at Box Hill in the near future?
 
if he comes on ala ben reid last year than it will change perceptions of our backline from just about everyone out there. Our backline is perceived to be the only thing that stands in the way of a flag from what im reading in all the papers and on radio so if schoey improves and establishes himself in the side our premiership chances must surely increase.
 
ordivician said:
Am I the only person here who finds that statement somewhat incronguous?

At his draft camp our dearest little Schoey won the repeat sprints. In his first game he kept lock step with Wojcinski in a 50 m sprint to the boundary.

So why on earth is he, a mere two years later, now so slow? :confused: :confused: :confused:
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I probably should have phrased that better. What I meant is that at times he looks slow on his feet. Perhaps it's his decision making, but he got caught out a lot early on.

Just think that if he had a bit of anger or impose himself on the game, he'd be able to find another peg out on the field.
 
realhawk said:
He is going to have to show us something this year, he was afterall the first player we picked in the draft a few years ago, his form at Box Hill late last year was poor, lets hope the kid doesn't turn out to be another Thorp/dowler disaster.
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This is looking like the "Trade Roughhead" thread from 2007.

Negative Nellies are on the loose !


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There would be a lot more pressure to play Schoe if the Stratton had'nt burst onto the scene. We now have the luxury of bringing him along at Box Hill.

In the meantime hypothetical threads based around trading shcoey, however unrealistic could be fun.:D
 
IBleedBrownNGold said:
I probably should have phrased that better. What I meant is that at times he looks slow on his feet. Perhaps it's his decision making, but he got caught out a lot early on.

Just think that if he had a bit of anger or impose himself on the game, he'd be able to find another peg out on the field.
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Not really.

He did actually look a lot slower over the ground last year. The only obvious explanation is the extra bulk, so who knows? but I've never seen a player slow down so dramatically one season to the next without a having a really bad injury.

The slowness on his feet and poor decision making is a real worry. I know he has never played with people all around him as a junior. As a leading forward tends to run into open space, but honestly, his in close reactions and decision making are very poor indeed and unacceptable in a defender.

He just does not have the natural instincts/reactions that all good midfileders and defenders have that enables thme to dispose of the ball cleanly when under pressure.

I don't want to say this but the last line of your post:

"if he had a bit of anger or impose himself on the game, he'd be able to find another peg out on the field"

gave me an instantaneous Dowler flashback.

OMG bad acid man! Heavy! as Neil of the "Young Ones" might say.

:)
 
ordivician said:
Not really.

He did actually look a lot slower over the ground last year. The only obvious explanation is the extra bulk, so who knows? but I've never seen a player slow down so dramatically one season to the next without a having a really bad injury.

The slowness on his feet and poor decision making is a real worry. I know he has never played with people all around him as a junior. As a leading forward tends to run into open space, but honestly, his in close reactions and decision making are very poor indeed and unacceptable in a defender.

He just does not have the natural instincts/reactions that all good midfileders and defenders have that enables thme to dispose of the ball cleanly when under pressure.

I don't want to say this but the last line of your post:

"if he had a bit of anger or impose himself on the game, he'd be able to find another peg out on the field"

gave me an instantaneous Dowler flashback.

OMG bad acid man! Heavy! as Neil of the "Young Ones" might say.

:)
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lol... fair call. Now that I read it again, it is very scarily a Dowler-esque comment. Ummmm.... didn't really mean to do that. Hehe.

Perhaps we're all over-analysing, c'mon bring on Round 1. It's been a too long preseason. ;)
 
I still have a lot of faith in Shoey and hope to see him on the paddock asap:thumbsu::thumbsu:
 
So, back to the point of this thread... is he injured at the moment, or where's he been during the preseason?
 

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