Should a suspension rule a player ineligible for the Rising Star award?

[Foxx]

In light of Harley Reid's possible suspension. Should the Rising Star award be a "fairest" award like the Browlow Medal?

We dont penalise the Coleman medal Etc..

 

[fusion]

So does Dusty Martin and Corey McKernan

Corey Mckernan

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12.7

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3.7

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5.1

5star

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0.7

3star

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1.3

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9.2

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5.6

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3.6

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4.2

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1.0

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1.2

4star

get retrospective medals if you change the rules?

 

[FreoGirl]

In light of Harley Reid's possible suspension. Should the Rising Star award be a "fairest" award like the Browlow Medal?

We dont penalise the Coleman medal Etc..

The report in The West Australian pretty much says he wont qualify if he is found guilty?

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Rising Stard?

 

[Foxx]

The report in The West Australian pretty much says he wont qualify if he is found guilty?

Yes, that's how I understand it. He will become ineligible through suspension.

 

[FreoGirl]

Yes, that's how I understand it. He will become ineligible through suspension.

Unless he gets off on the "he's a good bloke" or "But he's just a homesick kid" appeal

If The West Australian has turned on him, then I don't fancy his chances...

Reid and Eagles collapse late as Wood lifts St Kilda

A win and a rising star award slipped through the hands of West Coast in 40 minutes as Harley Reid sweats on a possible suspension in the Eagles’ 14-point loss to St Kilda.

thewest.com.au

 

[Kram]

The report in The West Australian pretty much says he wont qualify if he is found guilty?

Full back page spread?

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Honestly, I didn't even know suspension would make a Rising Star ineligible until Darcy got done in last night. I don't think it should, personally, but whatever, it is what it is.

 

[FreoGirl]

Full back page spread?

4 page insert lol

 

[Bald]

I posted in another thread that it's a really simple fix. You have two suspension types, intentional acts and careless acts.

If you're suspended for an intentional act, you are ineligible. If you are suspended for a careless act, you're eligible.

Make it this way for the brownlow as well and we won't have a situation where someone loses a brownlow because of a tackle.

 

[Foxx]

Honestly, I didn't even know suspension would make a Rising Star ineligible until Darcy got done in last night. I don't think it should, personally, but whatever, it is what it is.

Neither did I.
I think it's a little surprising.

 

[RU_]

I posted in another thread that it's a really simple fix. You have two suspension types, intentional acts and careless acts.

If you're suspended for an intentional act, you are ineligible. If you are suspended for a careless act, you're eligible.

Make it this way for the brownlow as well and we won't have a situation where someone loses a brownlow because of a tackle.

Big fan of this.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

So we are all in agreeance that golden boy Harley should be suspended

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Was totally unaware that this was the case. Seems ridiculous to be ruled ineligible.

 

[matthew_s]

So we are all in agreeance that golden boy Harley should be suspended

yes, he'll cop a week. nobody seriously thinks he shouldn't.

 

[BEEG]

I look at other sports around the world and just laugh at this.

NBA ROTY award imagine Wemby getting a suspension and not winning the award it just would never happen.

No he shouldn't lose an award for a suspension, the same goes for the Brownlow, they miss weeks and potentially miss votes that's punishment enough.

 

[DazalenkoUBewty]

Sam Darcy very lucky to only cop 2.

Harley Reid should get 2.

Should they be ineligible for the Rising Star? - No, they should absolutely still be in the running, imo.

And same goes for the Brownlow Medal. Suspension shouldn't rule you out of contention.

 

[Sentinel]

So does Dusty Martin and Corey McKernan get retrospective medals if you change the rules?

Not that either would happen, but McKernan has more of a claim since he actually received the most votes but wasn't awarded the medal due to suspension. In Martin's year they didn't vote for him at all as a result of being ineligible so you couldn't restrospectively hand him the award.

 

[HairyO]

Unless he gets off on the "he's a good bloke" or "But he's just a homesick kid" appeal

If The West Australian has turned on him, then I don't fancy his chances...

Reid and Eagles collapse late as Wood lifts St Kilda

A win and a rising star award slipped through the hands of West Coast in 40 minutes as Harley Reid sweats on a possible suspension in the Eagles’ 14-point loss to St Kilda.

thewest.com.au

Or the AFL could manufacture a Cripps event and deliberately **** up the Tribunal so he gets off on appeal.

 

[Testekill]

Honestly, I didn't even know suspension would make a Rising Star ineligible until Darcy got done in last night. I don't think it should, personally, but whatever, it is what it is.

Yeah it's weird, finding out the McKernan was made ineligible to win in 94 was a big shock especially since he missed out on the Brownlow two years later in the same fashion. It's weird too because the Rising Star has never been treated as the Best & Fairest kid, just the best.

 

[Great8]

yes, he'll cop a week. nobody seriously thinks he shouldn't.

I do
He should get 2 weeks

 

[Sentinel]

Not that either would happen, but McKernan has more of a claim since he actually received the most votes but wasn't awarded the medal due to suspension. In Martin's year they didn't vote for him at all as a result of being ineligible so you couldn't restrospectively hand him the award.

More to this, according to the below report the AFL expects the Rising Star judges will still vote for Reid (and Darcy). Yet in 2022, Horne-Francis who was ineligible received no votes, like Martin in 2010, despite both being worthy of at least some votes. Means they're changing the way they adjudicate this purely because Reid is the favourite - to further diminish the credibility of this mickey mouse award.

 

[The 747]

Who cares about the Rising Star?

 

[The 747]

Lewis just took about 50 words to say if you kick well you can find a player in space.

 

[Dogflogger]

I look at other sports around the world and just laugh at this.

NBA ROTY award imagine Wemby getting a suspension and not winning the award it just would never happen.

No he shouldn't lose an award for a suspension, the same goes for the Brownlow, they miss weeks and potentially miss votes that's punishment enough.

Who gives a flying **** what the NBA does?