South Africa - Where to now?

[Gough]

This is far more complex than removing him as Captain because he is Jewish - as many have pointed out. I witnessed some of the most obscene racism that I have ever seen first hand by a lad of the same background against a cape coloured kid in the very same team that we played in. This was in Sydney mid 90’s. Shameful.

I had a South African boyfriend for a few years and he knocked about with the some of the Jo'burg Jewish crowd, this was late 90s but some of things that came out of their mouths belonged in the nineteenth century.

 

[western royboy]

I had a South African boyfriend for a few years and he knocked about with the some of the Jo'burg Jewish crowd, this was late 90s but some of things that came out of their mouths belonged in the nineteenth century.

To say it was eye opening was an understatement

 

[Gough]

To say it was eye opening was an understatement

At that time most of them were discussing how to flee democracy in their own country. Every time Elon Musk opens his stupid surgically altered gob I think of those people.

 

[Black Diamond]

I am unconvinced that racism by Jews (or anyone) in the past should have anything to do with who captains their u19 team today.

 

[western royboy]

I am unconvinced that racism by Jews (or anyone) in the past should have anything to do with who captains their u19 team today.

I sincerely doubt that it’s in the past - it’s not something I want to get into because it’s a no win situation

 

[Black Diamond]

I sincerely doubt that it’s in the past - it’s not something I want to get into because it’s a no win situation

If he has directed racism toward his teammates or others, then he should be stood down and dropped from the team.

If he hasn’t, then one reading of this story is he has lost the captaincy for disagreeing with SA’s foreign policy. Maybe there are clauses requiring players to STFU?

 

[Cameron_Jezza]

I had a South African boyfriend for a few years and he knocked about with the some of the Jo'burg Jewish crowd, this was late 90s but some of things that came out of their mouths belonged in the nineteenth century.

What did the SAJ's think about apartheid?
Alot have left since it ended.

 

[big_e]

Where to for South Africa?

They're off to Lord's.

 

[Headless]

Where to for South Africa?

They're off to Lord's.

Caught me by surprise a bit. Great result.

 

[PhatBoy]

They’ve had a softer draw than some teams but they’ve been very clinical for the most part - they smoked India in the first test of their cycle and posted a big total against Bumrah and co.
They lost a test that followed on a pitch basically deemed unsafe.

They sent a team of unknowns to NZ and actually led the second test and set the Kiwis nearly 300 to win and had them in some bother before Williamson and Young got them home.

They won away in the Windies which could have caused a few problems as we were coming off the win in Australia and generally put up a reasonable fight at home, and Sri Lanka are an improving team who just took an away test off England and they disposed of them. Now they’ve won the first test of this series.

They’ve done a lot of it with players injured - their current list includes Nortje who has basically missed the entire year, Mulder who was excellent against SL, Coetzee, Burger who could be the best of all of them, Maharaj, and on the back of their most experienced player retiring.

It’s a fair recovery

 

[big_e]

Caught me by surprise a bit. Great result.

Some of the handwringing after they sent the B team to New Zealand seems pretty silly in hindsight.

 

[Trojan90]

They’re a fast bowling factory. Only need a few batsmen and they can compete. Currently Markram and Bavuma are holding up that end. If they can find a world class batsman there’s enough to build on.

 

[PhatBoy]

They’re a fast bowling factory. Only need a few batsmen and they can compete. Currently Markram and Bavuma are holding up that end. If they can find a world class batsman there’s enough to build on.

Bedingham is one to put some stock in. A bit inconsistent but he’s good enough

Was doing some reading before - the late Tertius Bosch has another son: Eathan.

He’s listed as a ‘fast’ bowler so I would assume that means he also breaks 140 like his brother, averages well under 30 and unsurprisingly for a South African can also bat - not genuine all rounder stuff but has a first class hundred and 7 50s. I think he’s playing for Essex as well. Wonder if he will pop into the set up at some stage?

 

[Ivelisse]

SA is a failure of a nation.

South Africa also faces a set of circumstances that are unique to any other country on the planet.

I don't know... "Black people suck so South Africa sucks also genocide is fine" has me convinced /sarcasmoverload