Squad Changes

[Kildonan]

Please excuse this thread - I am collating facts etc. that I might use in other posts.
It is a little self-indulgent, I know, but many of you might find some of this stuff interesting, and you are welcome to use this thread as a resource for settling arguements on the main board etc.

The St Kilda list at end of 2005 season:

   Name              Games Age Date of Birth Height Weight Origin Position  
  Harvey, Robert (V+)   317 34 21 Aug 1971 181cm 84kg Seaford Midfield  
  Peckett, Justin (V+)  235 33 05 Oct 1972 182cm 84kg Karingal Utility  
  Thompson, Andrew      194 33 21 Oct 1972 180cm 81kg Old Melburnians Midfield  
  Gehrig, Fraser        213 29 03 Mar 1976 195cm 104kg Murray Bushrangers Forward  
  Hudghton, Max         173 29 02 Sep 1976 191cm 92kg Northern Knights Defender  
  Powell, Stephen       132 29 07 Sep 1976 181cm 84kg Western Jets Midfield  
  Jones, Austinn        226 29 28 Sep 1976 176cm 82kg Beaconsfield Defender   
  Hamill, Aaron         181 28 20 Aug 1977 184cm 94kg Tuggeranong Forward  
  Voss, Brett           136 27 22 Feb 1978 181cm 84kg Morningside Defender   
  Hayes, Lenny          140 25 14 Jan 1980 186cm 85kg Pennant Hills Midfield  
  Milne, Stephen         97 25 08 Mar 1980 176cm 80kg Dandenong Stingrays Forward  
  Baker, Steven         114 25 22 May 1980 179cm 83kg Geelong Falcons Midfield  
  Penny, Luke            80 24 08 Feb 1981 193cm 94kg Oakleigh Chargers Defender  
  Blake, Jason           74 24 15 Mar 1981 189cm 87kg Beaumaris Ruck Utility  
  Fiora, Aaron           91 24 19 Apr 1981 186cm 80kg Port Adelaide Winger/Flanker  
  Stone, Nick            20 24 01 Oct 1981 196cm 97kg Collingwood Defender  
  Schwarze, Troy         60 23 23 Dec 1981 190cm 89kg Dingley Defender  
  Ackland, Cain          34 23 16 Mar 1982 196cm 96kg Port Adelaide Ruck  
  Murray, Allan          12 23 20 May 1982 180cm 83kg Murray Bushrangers Forward  
  Guerra, Brent          96 23 29 May 1982 181cm 97kg Bendigo Pioneers Forward  
  Fisher, Sam            28 23 10 Jul 1982 191cm 88kg West Adelaide Defender  
  Koschitzke, Justin     71 23 20 Sep 1982 197cm 96kg Murray Bushrangers Ruck KPP  
  Riewoldt, Nick         91 23 17 Oct 1982 193cm 95kg Southport Forward    
  Clarke, Xavier         66 22 28 Sep 1983 181cm 80kg St Marys Forward  
  Montagna, Leigh        30 22 02 Nov 1983 178cm 76kg Northern Knights Midfield  
  Brooks, Barry           7 21 24 Dec 1983 198cm 95kg Grassy Ruck  
  Dal Santo, Nick        75 21 22 Feb 1984 185cm 83kg Bendigo Pioneers Midfield  
  Fisher, Leigh          10 21 19 Apr 1984 184cm 90kg Mentone Grammar Midfield  
  Gram, Jason             9 21 27 Apr 1984 186cm 84kg Gippsland Power Defender  
  Ball, Luke             65 21 25 May 1984 183cm 84kg Sandringham Dragons Midfield  
  Maguire, Matthew       67 21 30 May 1984 190cm 96kg Geelong Falcons Defender  
  McGough, Mark          46 21 22 Jun 1984 188cm 88kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield  
  Ferguson, Matthew       8 21 01 Oct 1984 187cm 87kg Heyfield Forward  
  Mullins, Luke (R)       3 20 24 Dec 1984 187cm 82kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield  
  Pfitzner, Dylan         0 20 13 Apr 1985 196cm 82kg Central District Forward  
  Goddard, Brendon       61 20 20 May 1985 189cm 96kg Traralgon Utility 
  Clarke, Raphael        17 20 24 Sep 1985 188cm 82kg St Mary's Defender  
  McQualter, Andrew       7 19 09 Jun 1986 179cm 79kg Gippsland Power Midfield  
  Gwilt, James            3 19 11 Aug 1986 188cm 88kg Noble Park Utility  
  McDonnell, Edward (R)   0 18 30 Dec 1986 192cm 87kg Western Magpies Utility

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

Trades:

Fergus Watts (Adelaide) St Kilda Traded for pick #17

Retirements:

Jones, Austinn - 226 29 28-Sep-76 176cm 82kg
Penny, Luke - 80 24 08-Feb-81 193cm 94kg
Mullins, Luke (R) - 3 20 24-Dec-84 187cm 82kg

Delistings:

Stone, Nick - 20 24 01-Oct-81 196cm 97kg
Guerra, Brent - 96 23 29-May-82 181cm 97kg
Pfitzner, Dylan - 0 20 13-Apr-85 196cm 82kg

National Draft:

#33 St Kilda Sam Gilbert 19-08-1986 193.7 81.8 SOUTHPORT Defender
#49 St Kilda Michael Rix 08-01-1981 199 95 COBURG Ruck
#63 St Kilda Phillip Raymond 24-06-1987 185.6 69.25 GLENELG Forward
#71 St Kilda Justin Sweeney 25-12-1987 TYABB Forward

Rookie Draft:

#14 St Kilda Corr, Cathal 01-Nov-87 182cm 82kg Northern Knights Utility
#30 St Kilda Pfitzner, Dylan 0 20 13-Apr-85 196cm 82kg St Kilda Forward

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

The St Kilda list at beginning of 2006 season:

   Name              Games Age Date of Birth Height Weight Origin Position  
  Harvey, Robert (V+)   317 34 21 Aug 1971 181cm 84kg Seaford Midfield  
  Peckett, Justin (V+)  235 33 05 Oct 1972 182cm 84kg Karingal Utility  
  Thompson, Andrew      194 33 21 Oct 1972 180cm 81kg Old Melburnians Midfield  
  Gehrig, Fraser        213 29 03 Mar 1976 195cm 104kg Murray Bushrangers Forward  
  Hudghton, Max         173 29 02 Sep 1976 191cm 92kg Northern Knights Defender  
  Powell, Stephen       132 29 07 Sep 1976 181cm 84kg Western Jets Midfield   
  Hamill, Aaron         181 28 20 Aug 1977 184cm 94kg Tuggeranong Forward  
  Voss, Brett           136 27 22 Feb 1978 181cm 84kg Morningside Defender   
  Hayes, Lenny          140 26 14 Jan 1980 186cm 85kg Pennant Hills Midfield  
  Milne, Stephen         97 25 08 Mar 1980 176cm 80kg Dandenong Stingrays Forward  
  Baker, Steven         114 25 22 May 1980 179cm 83kg Geelong Falcons Midfield  
  Michael Rix             0 25 08 Jan 1981 200cm 100kg Coburg Ruck
  Blake, Jason           74 24 15 Mar 1981 189cm 87kg Beaumaris Ruck Utility  
  Fiora, Aaron           91 24 19 Apr 1981 186cm 80kg Port Adelaide Winger/Flanker  
  Schwarze, Troy         60 24 23 Dec 1981 190cm 89kg Dingley Defender  
  Ackland, Cain          34 23 16 Mar 1982 196cm 96kg Port Adelaide Ruck  
  Murray, Allan          12 23 20 May 1982 180cm 83kg Murray Bushrangers Forward  
  Fisher, Sam            28 23 10 Jul 1982 191cm 88kg West Adelaide Defender  
  Koschitzke, Justin     71 23 20 Sep 1982 197cm 96kg Murray Bushrangers Ruck KPP  
  Riewoldt, Nick         91 23 17 Oct 1982 193cm 95kg Southport Forward    
  Clarke, Xavier         66 22 28 Sep 1983 181cm 80kg St Marys Forward  
  Montagna, Leigh        30 22 02 Nov 1983 178cm 76kg Northern Knights Midfield  
  Brooks, Barry           7 22 24 Dec 1983 198cm 95kg Grassy Ruck  
  Dal Santo, Nick        75 21 22 Feb 1984 185cm 83kg Bendigo Pioneers Midfield  
  Fisher, Leigh          10 21 19 Apr 1984 184cm 90kg Mentone Grammar Midfield  
  Gram, Jason             9 21 27 Apr 1984 186cm 84kg Gippsland Power Defender  
  Ball, Luke             65 21 25 May 1984 183cm 84kg Sandringham Dragons Midfield  
  Maguire, Matthew       67 21 30 May 1984 190cm 96kg Geelong Falcons Defender  
  McGough, Mark          46 21 22 Jun 1984 188cm 88kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield  
  Ferguson, Matthew       8 21 01 Oct 1984 187cm 87kg Heyfield Forward  
  Pfitzner, Dylan (R)     0 20 13 Apr 1985 196cm 82kg Central District Forward  
  Goddard, Brendon       61 20 20 May 1985 189cm 96kg Traralgon Utility 
  Watts, Fergus           5 20 21 Sep 1985 195cm 95kg Sandringham Dragons Forward
  Clarke, Raphael        17 20 24 Sep 1985 188cm 82kg St Mary's Defender  
  McQualter, Andrew       7 19 09 Jun 1986 179cm 79kg Gippsland Power Midfield  
  Gwilt, James            3 19 11 Aug 1986 188cm 88kg Noble Park Utility  
  Gilbert, Sam            0 19 19 Aug 1986 194cm 82kg Southport Defender
  McDonnell, Edward (R)   0 19 30 Dec 1986 192cm 87kg Western Magpies Utility
  Raymond, Phillip        0 18 24 Jun 1987 186cm 69kg Glenelg Forward
  Corr, Cathal (R)        0 18 01 Nov 1987 182cm 82kg Northern Knights Utility
  Sweeney, Justin         0 18 25 Dec 1987 186cm 87kg Tyabb Forward

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

The spread of player ages (as at 01 Jan 2006):

AGE No.
30+ x 3
29 x 3
28 x 1
27 x 1
26 x 0
25 x 3
24 x 4
23 x 5
22 x 3
21 x 7
20 x 4
19 x 4
18 x 3

 

[BATTERY]

Re: Team Changes

JUSTIN Sweeney 186cm and 87kg
www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,17375554%5E19772,00.html

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

JUSTIN Sweeney 186cm and 87kg
www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,17375554%5E19772,00.html

Thanks

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

Ruckmen
Michael Rix- 200 New
Barry Brooks- 198
Justin Koschitzke- 197
Cain Ackland- 196

Tall Forwards
Fergus Watts- 197 New
Dylan Pfitzner (R)- 196
Fraser Gehrig- 195 29yo
Nick Riewoldt- 193

Tall Defenders
Sam Gilbert- 194 New
Ed McDonnell (R)- 192
Max Hudghton- 191 29yo
Sam Fisher- 191
Matt Maguire- 190

Medium/Tall Utilities
Troy Schwarze- 190
Brendan Goddard- 189
Jason Blake- 189
James Gwilt- 188
Raphael Clarke- 188
Matthew Ferguson- 187

Medium Midfielders
Mark McGough- 188
Lenny Hayes- 186
Aaron Fiora- 186
Jason Gram- 186
Nick Dal Santo- 185

Medium Forwards
Justin Sweeney- 186 New
Philip Raymond- 186 New
Aaron Hamill- 184

Medium Defenders
Leigh Fisher- 184

Small Midfielders
Luke Ball- 183
Robert Harvey- 181 34yo
Stephen Powell- 181 29yo
Andrew Thompson- 180 33yo
Andrew McQualter- 179
Leigh Montagna- 178

Small Forwards
Alan Murray- 180
Stephen Milne- 176

Small Defenders
Brett Voss- 181

Small Utilities
Justin Peckett- 182 33yo
Cathal Corr (R)- 182 New
Xavier Clarke- 181
Steven Baker- 179

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

Looking at the spread of our players ranked by size/position one can see that the imminent retirement of half our small midfield group is of some concern. Cathal Corr may be able to work his way into that group (if I have his height right).
It also becomes clear why we sacrificed our first pick in the draft for a tall forward and why we also opted for a tall defender with our first available pick in the national draft.
The ruck looks OK, Rix being considered the best available adds depth.
The rookies are nicely spread through the categories.

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

Our 21yo and under group (as at 01/01/06):

  Dal Santo, Nick        75 21 22 Feb 1984 185cm 83kg Bendigo Pioneers Midfield  
  Fisher, Leigh          10 21 19 Apr 1984 184cm 90kg Mentone Grammar Midfield  
  Gram, Jason             9 21 27 Apr 1984 186cm 84kg Gippsland Power Defender  
  Ball, Luke             65 21 25 May 1984 183cm 84kg Sandringham Dragons Midfield  
  Maguire, Matthew       67 21 30 May 1984 190cm 96kg Geelong Falcons Defender  
  McGough, Mark          46 21 22 Jun 1984 188cm 88kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield  
  Ferguson, Matthew       8 21 01 Oct 1984 187cm 87kg Heyfield Forward  
  Pfitzner, Dylan (R)     0 20 13 Apr 1985 196cm 82kg Central District Forward  
  Goddard, Brendon       61 20 20 May 1985 189cm 96kg Traralgon Utility 
  Watts, Fergus           5 20 21 Sep 1985 195cm 95kg Sandringham Dragons Forward
  Clarke, Raphael        17 20 24 Sep 1985 188cm 82kg St Mary's Defender  
  McQualter, Andrew       7 19 09 Jun 1986 179cm 79kg Gippsland Power Midfield  
  Gwilt, James            3 19 11 Aug 1986 188cm 88kg Noble Park Utility  
  Sam Gilbert             0 19 19 Aug 1986 194cm 82kg Southport Defender
  McDonnell, Edward (R)   0 18 30 Dec 1986 192cm 87kg Western Magpies Utility
  Raymond, Phillip        0 18 24 Jun 1987 186cm 69kg Glenelg Forward
  Corr, Cathal (R)        0 18 01 Nov 1987 182cm 82kg Northern Knights Utility
  Justin Sweeney          0 18 25 Dec 1987 186cm 87kg Tyabb Forward

This group contains established players; Nick Dal Santo, Luke Ball, Matthew Maguire, Brendan Goddard.
Fringe players like Leigh Fisher, Jason Gram, Matthew Ferguson, Raph Clarke, Andrew McQualter, Jimmy Gwilt and a number of highly promising developing players.

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

Our middle tier age group 22 to 24 years age group:

  Michael Rix             0 24 08 Jan 1981 200cm 100kg Coburg Ruck
  Blake, Jason           74 24 15 Mar 1981 189cm 87kg Beaumaris Ruck Utility  
  Fiora, Aaron           91 24 19 Apr 1981 186cm 80kg Port Adelaide Winger/Flanker  
  Schwarze, Troy         60 23 23 Dec 1981 190cm 89kg Dingley Defender  
  Ackland, Cain          34 23 16 Mar 1982 196cm 96kg Port Adelaide Ruck  
  Murray, Allan          12 23 20 May 1982 180cm 83kg Murray Bushrangers Forward  
  Fisher, Sam            28 23 10 Jul 1982 191cm 88kg West Adelaide Defender  
  Koschitzke, Justin     71 23 20 Sep 1982 197cm 96kg Murray Bushrangers Ruck KPP  
  Riewoldt, Nick         91 23 17 Oct 1982 193cm 95kg Southport Forward    
  Clarke, Xavier         66 22 28 Sep 1983 181cm 80kg St Marys Forward  
  Montagna, Leigh        30 22 02 Nov 1983 178cm 76kg Northern Knights Midfield  
  Brooks, Barry           7 21 24 Dec 1983 198cm 95kg Grassy Ruck

This group contains most of our rucking stocks in: Michael Rix, Blake, Ackland, Kosi, and Brooks. Around this age most ruckmen start to hit their straps. Rix and Brooks have yet to establish themselves at AFL level. All of the remaining players (with the exceptions of Murray and Schwarze) have established themselves as regular players. The standouts are Nick and Kosi.

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

Our players at peak performance years 25 - 27yo

  Voss, Brett           136 27 22 Feb 1978 181cm 84kg Morningside Defender   
  Hayes, Lenny          140 25 14 Jan 1980 186cm 85kg Pennant Hills Midfield  
  Milne, Stephen         97 25 08 Mar 1980 176cm 80kg Dandenong Stingrays Forward  
  Baker, Steven         114 25 22 May 1980 179cm 83kg Geelong Falcons Midfield

All players are established as "best 22" but there's not many of them.
All would probably walk in to any other team of the league.

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

Our aging stars 28+yo

  Harvey, Robert (V+)   317 34 21 Aug 1971 181cm 84kg Seaford Midfield  
  Peckett, Justin (V+)  235 33 05 Oct 1972 182cm 84kg Karingal Utility  
  Thompson, Andrew      194 33 21 Oct 1972 180cm 81kg Old Melburnians Midfield  
  Gehrig, Fraser        213 29 03 Mar 1976 195cm 104kg Murray Bushrangers Forward  
  Hudghton, Max         173 29 02 Sep 1976 191cm 92kg Northern Knights Defender  
  Powell, Stephen       132 29 07 Sep 1976 181cm 84kg Western Jets Midfield   
  Hamill, Aaron         181 28 20 Aug 1977 184cm 94kg Tuggeranong Forward

This aging group contains a number of our midfielders; Harvey, Peckett, Thompson, and Powell as well as a key forward and a key defender.
Harvey, Peckett and Thompson are amongst the oldest players in the league, yet for different reasons, all are capable of playing a significant role in a premiership tilt. Aaron Hamill is still at the lower age end of this group and is likely to continue with his peak age performance (that we saw glimpses of in 2005).

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

The players ranked by games experience in each group:

 [b]Ruckmen[/b]
  Koschitzke, Justin     71 23 20 Sep 1982 197cm 96kg Murray Bushrangers Ruck KPP  
  Ackland, Cain          34 23 16 Mar 1982 196cm 96kg Port Adelaide Ruck  KPP
  Brooks, Barry           7 21 24 Dec 1983 198cm 95kg Grassy Ruck  
  Michael Rix             0 24 08 Jan 1981 200cm 100kg Coburg Ruck [COLOR="Lime"]New[/COLOR]
 
[b]Tall Forwards[/b] 
  Gehrig, Fraser        213 29 03 Mar 1976 195cm 104kg Murray Bushrangers Forward  
  Riewoldt, Nick         91 23 17 Oct 1982 193cm 95kg Southport Forward    
  Watts, Fergus           5 20 21 Sep 1985 195cm 95kg Sandringham Dragons Forward [COLOR="Lime"]New[/COLOR]
  Pfitzner, Dylan (R)     0 20 13 Apr 1985 196cm 82kg Central District Forward  

[b]Tall Defenders [/b]
  Hudghton, Max         173 29 02 Sep 1976 191cm 92kg Northern Knights Defender  
  Maguire, Matthew       67 21 30 May 1984 190cm 96kg Geelong Falcons Defender  
  Fisher, Sam            28 23 10 Jul 1982 191cm 88kg West Adelaide Defender  
  Sam Gilbert             0 19 19 Aug 1986 194cm 82kg Southport Defender [COLOR="Lime"]New[/COLOR]
  McDonnell, Edward (R)   0 18 30 Dec 1986 192cm 87kg Western Magpies Defender

[b]Medium/Tall Utilities [/b]
  Blake, Jason           74 24 15 Mar 1981 189cm 87kg Beaumaris Ruck Utility  
  Goddard, Brendon       61 20 20 May 1985 189cm 96kg Traralgon Utility 
  Schwarze, Troy         60 23 23 Dec 1981 190cm 89kg Dingley Utility  
  Clarke, Raphael        17 20 24 Sep 1985 188cm 82kg St Mary's Utility  
  Ferguson, Matthew       8 21 01 Oct 1984 187cm 87kg Heyfield Utility  
  Gwilt, James            3 19 11 Aug 1986 188cm 88kg Noble Park Utility  

[b]Medium Midfielders [/b]
  Hayes, Lenny          140 25 14 Jan 1980 186cm 85kg Pennant Hills Midfield  
  Fiora, Aaron           91 24 19 Apr 1981 186cm 80kg Port Adelaide Winger/Flanker  
  Dal Santo, Nick        75 21 22 Feb 1984 185cm 83kg Bendigo Pioneers Midfield  
  McGough, Mark          46 21 22 Jun 1984 188cm 88kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield  
  Gram, Jason             9 21 27 Apr 1984 186cm 84kg Gippsland Power Defender / Midfield  

[b]Medium Forwards[/b] 
  Hamill, Aaron         181 28 20 Aug 1977 184cm 94kg Tuggeranong Forward  
  Justin Sweeney          0 17 25 Dec 1987 186cm 87kg Tyabb Forward [COLOR="Lime"]New[/COLOR]
  Raymond, Phillip        0 18 24 Jun 1987 186cm 69kg Glenelg Forward [COLOR="Lime"]New[/COLOR]
 
[b]Medium Defenders [/b]
  Fisher, Leigh          10 21 19 Apr 1984 184cm 90kg Mentone Grammar Defender
 
[b]Small Midfielders [/b]
  Harvey, Robert (V+)   317 34 21 Aug 1971 181cm 84kg Seaford Midfield  
  Thompson, Andrew      194 33 21 Oct 1972 180cm 81kg Old Melburnians Midfield  
  Powell, Stephen       132 29 07 Sep 1976 181cm 84kg Western Jets Midfield   
  Ball, Luke             65 21 25 May 1984 183cm 84kg Sandringham Dragons Midfield  
  Montagna, Leigh        30 22 02 Nov 1983 178cm 76kg Northern Knights Midfield  
  McQualter, Andrew       7 19 09 Jun 1986 179cm 79kg Gippsland Power Midfield  

[b]Small Forwards[/b] 
  Milne, Stephen         97 25 08 Mar 1980 176cm 80kg Dandenong Stingrays Forward  
  Murray, Allan          12 23 20 May 1982 180cm 83kg Murray Bushrangers Forward  

[b]Small Defenders [/b]
  Voss, Brett           136 27 22 Feb 1978 181cm 84kg Morningside Defender   

[b]Small Utilities [/b]
  Peckett, Justin (V+)  235 33 05 Oct 1972 182cm 84kg Karingal Utility  
  Baker, Steven         114 25 22 May 1980 179cm 83kg Geelong Falcons Utility  
  Clarke, Xavier         66 22 28 Sep 1983 181cm 80kg St Marys Utility  
  Corr, Cathal (R)        0 18 01 Nov 1987 182cm 82kg Northern Knights Utility [COLOR="Lime"]New[/COLOR]

 

[mad dog muir]

Re: Team Changes

Looks again to be a fine spread.Penny and Jones departures will hurt us to some degree but injury permitting they are covered by Fisher and X.
All guns firing at the same time 2006 should be our year!!

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

The placings of teams at the end of the H&A season last ten years:

?? Year. - 96-97-98-99-00-01-02-03-04-05
Freman. - 13-12-15-15-12-16-13-05-09-10 5 years in the bottom 4, 0 years in top 4.
Magpies - 11-08-14-16-15-09-04-02-13-15 5 years in the bottom 4, 2 years in top 4.
Hawtho - 08-15-13-09-08-06-10- 09-15-14 4 years in the bottom 4, 0 years in top 4
Richmon - 09-13-09-12-09-04-14-13-16-12 4 years in the bottom 4, 1 year in top 4.
Demons - 14-16-04-14-03-11-06-14-05-07 4 years in the bottom 4, 2 years in top 4.
Carlton. - 05-11-11-06-02-05-16-15-11-16 3 years in the bottom 4, 1 year in top 4
St Kilda - 10-01-06-10-16-15-15-11–03-04 3 years in the bottom 4, 3 years in top 4.
W Bulld - 15–03-02–04-07-10- 12-16-14-09 3 years in the bottom 4, 3 years in top 4.

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

Player Numbers:

1 Justin Peckett 5/10/1972
2 Aaron Hamill 20/08/1977
3 Xavier Clarke 28/09/1983
4 Andrew Thompson 21/10/1972
5 Fergus Watts 21/09/1985
6 Leigh Fisher 19/04/1984
7 Lenny Hayes 14/01/1980
8 Max Hudghton 2/09/1976
9 Fraser Gehrig 3/03/1976
10 Steven Baker 22/05/1980
11 Leigh Montagna 2/11/1983
12 Nick Riewoldt 17/10/1982
13 Brett Voss 22/02/1978
14 Luke Ball 25/05/1984
15 Jason Gram 27/04/1984
16 Raphael Clarke 24/09/1985
17 Stephen Powell 7/09/1976
18 Brendon Goddard 20/05/1985
19 Sam Gilbert 19/08/1986
20 Allan Murray 20/05/1982
21 Matthew Ferguson 1/10/1984
22 Aaron Fiora 19/04/1981
23 Justin Koschitzke 20/09/1982
24 Barry Brooks 24/12/1983
25 Sam Fisher 10/07/1982
26 Nick Dal Santo 22/02/1984
27 Jason Blake 15/03/1981
28 Cain Ackland 16/03/1982
29 Michael Rix 8/01/1981
30 Mark McGough 22/06/1984
31 Matt Maguire 30/05/1984
32 Andrew McQualter 9/06/1986
33 James Gwilt 11/08/1986
34 Phillip Raymond 24/06/1987
35 Robert Harvey 21/08/1971
36 Dylan Pfitzner 13/04/1985
37 Justin Sweeney 25/12/1987
38 Ed McDonnell 30/12/1986
39 Cathal Corr 1/11/1987
40 Troy Schwarze 23/12/1981
44 Stephen Milne 8/03/1980

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

from Saintsational Link:

Tall Defenders (6)
Name Age Ht Wt 2005 stats - Career stats
M.Hudghton 29yo 191cm 92kg 20mt 9.3d 3.5mk 0.8t 0g- 173mt 10.1d 3.5mk 1.1t 14g
M.Maguire 21yo 190cm 96kg 21mt 13.1d 4.7mk 1.0t 6g- 67mt 10.2d 3.7mk 1.6t 15g
S.Fisher 23yo 191cm 88kg 21mt 13.9d 4.3mk 0.9 2g- 28mt 12.8d 4.1mk 0.9t 2g
T.Schwarze 24yo 190cm 84kg 7mt 9.7d 3.1mk 1.4t 3g - 60mt 8.5d 2.6mk 1.3t 11g
S.Gilbert 19yo 194cm 82kg DNP - DNP
E.McDonnell* 19yo 192cm 86kg DNP - DNP

Medium Defenders (5)
B.Voss 27yo 181cm 81kg 24mt 13.0d 5.1mk 2.3t 10g-136mt 11.3d 3.8mk 1.4t 44g
B.Goddard 20yo 189cm 91kg 19mt 14.9d 4.8mk 2.2t 6g - 61mt 13.5d 4.5m 2.0t 16g
R.Clarke 20yo 188cm 78kg 16mt 13.8d 4.0mk 2.2t 2g - 17mt 13.4d 3.9mk 2.2t 2g
M.Ferguson 21yo 187cm 87kg 2mt 7.0d 2.5mk 1.0t 0g - 8mt 8.5d 2.8mk 1.6t 0g
L.Fisher 21yo 184cm 89kg DNP -10mt 12.0d 3.5mk 1.6t 2g

Small Defenders (4)
S.Baker 25yo 179cm 83kg 24mt 13.3d 4.0mk 2.4t 3g -114mt 12.7d 3.2mk 2.6t 23g
X.Clarke 22yo 181cm 78kg 9mt 14.7d 2.8mk 1.4t 1g -66mt 11.0d 3.4mk 1.8t 30g
A.McQualter 19yo 179cm 79kg 7mt 13.0d 2.7mk 2.7t 2g - 7mt 13.0d 2.7mk 2.7t 2g
J.Gram 21yo 186cm 84kg 5mt 8.8d 2.6mk 1.2t 0g - 9mt 7.8d 2.0mk 1.0t 0g

Midfielders (11)
L.Hayes 25yo 186cm 85kg 24mt 23.6d 4.6mk 4.8t 10g-140mt 19.9d 3.4mk 3.9t 54g
N.Dal Santo 21yo 185cm 83kg 24mt 22.6d 4.6mk 3.2t 15g-75mt 18.1d 4.1mk 3.0t 40g
L.Ball 21yo 183cm 84kg 24mt 22.0d 3.9mk 5.3t 12g- 65mt 19.7d 3.7mk 4.6t 39g
R.Harvey 34yo 181cm 84kg 17mt 21.6d 5.3mk 2.3t 14g-318mt 25.8d 3.6mk 1.5t 164g
A.Thompson 33yo 180cm 81kg 22mt 13.9d 3.5mk 2.6t 4g-194mt 18.2d 2.9mk 2.8t 93g
S.Powell 29yo 181cm 86kg 16mt 16.5d 3.1mk 2.9t 4g -132mt 19.0d 3.9mk 1.9t 94g
J.Peckett 33yo 182cm 83kg 20mt 14.8d 4.7mk 1.6t 6g-236mt 14.1d 3.5mk 1.7t 47g
L.Montagna 22yo 178cm 76kg 8mt 15.1d 4.4mk 2.4t 6g - 30mt 11.7d 3.2mk 2.1t 27g
A.Fiora 24yo 186cm 80kg 13mt 13.8d 4.4mk 1.7t 11g- 91mt 10.4d 3.7mk 1.3t 36g
M.McGough 21yo 188cm 88kg 9mt 12.8d 3.3mk 1.2t 1g- 46mt 14.5d 3.2mk 1.9t 13g
C.Corr* 18yo 182cm 82kg DNP - DNP

Ruckmen (5)
J.Koschitzke 23yo 197cm 96kg 13mt 14.5d 7.3mk 2.8t 24g -71mt 11.6d 5.3mk 1.4t 61g
C.Ackland 23yo 196cm 96kg 22mt 10.9d 3.4mk 0.9t 12g -34mt 8.4d 2.7mk 0.7t 15g
J.Blake 24yo 189cm 87kg 15mt 10.7d 2.9mk 1.5t 2g -74mt 10.2d 3.4mk 1.7t 14g
B.Brooks 22yo 198cm 95kg 2mt 3.0d 1.0mk 0t 0g - 7mt 2.7d 0.9mk 1.0t 0g
M.Rix 24yo 198cm 100kg DNP - DNP

Tall Forwards (4)
F.Gehrig 29yo 195cm 101kg 22mt 9.9d 5.2mk 0.5t 78g-213mt 12.0d 5.3mk 0.8t 410g
N.Riewoldt 23yo 193cm 95kg 16mt 14.5d 8.2mk 1.1t 33g-91mt 15.3d 8.4mk 1.2t 153g
F.Watts 20yo 195cm 95kg DNP -5mt 3.6d 1.2m 1.2t 2g
D.Pfitzner 20yo 196cm 82kg DNP -DNP

Medium Forwards (3)
A.Hamill 28yo 184cm 94kg 12mt 14.0d 4.9mk 3.8t 20g-81mt 14.3d 4.5mk 2.8t 233g
J.Gwilt 19yo 188cm 88kg 3mt 10.3d 3.3mk 1.7t 2g -3mt 10.3d 3.3mk 1.7t 2g
J.Sweeney 18yo 186cm 87kg DNP -DNP

Small Forwards (3)
S.Milne 25yo 176cm 79kg 24mt 11.2d 3.5mk 1.5t 61g -97mt 9.5d 2.8mk 1.2t 210g
A.Murray 23yo 180cm 79kg 2mt 3.0d 2.0mk 0t 2g -12mt 7.7d 3.4mk 1.5t 12g
P.Raymond 18yo 186cm 69kg DNP DNP


Ins: F.Watts, S.Gilbert, M.Rix, P.Raymond, J.Sweeney, C.Corr*
Outs: L.Penny, A.Jones, B.Guerra, N.Stone.

If you look at the games played in 05, we actually had a pretty good run with injuries (except finals where we lost key players). Hamill, Kosi, L.Fisher, X & Penny all missed large chunks, whilst Riewoldt, Powell, Harvey & Fiora missed a portion of the season. Our midfield and backline (until finals) stayed very much intact.

Most young players improved on their career stats in 05, and mid-range players (Hayes, Baker, Voss, Milne etc…)continued to play excellent footy.

This season I would expect more output from Riewoldt & Gehrig and more games hopefully from Hamill & Kosi (these four are our most influential players). Steady progress again from our middle aged core group (Hayes, Baker, Voss, Hudghton, Milne – who will be joined by Dal Santo, Ball, Maguire, S.Fisher who now have more experience. Our older players will wane a bit you’d expect (Harvey, Peckett, Powell and Thompson) and one or two may be overtaken by some developing youngsters (McQualter, Montagna or McGough). Pfitzner, McDonnell, Gilbert, Sweeney, Raymond and Corr will all be given time at springvale to develop. The big improvers for me in 2006 will be Goddard, Montagna, Fiora, McQualter & Brooks with Schwarze, Gram, L.Fisher & Ferg all pushing hard for selection and providing good depth..

I think we have a good squad in 2006, not as good as last season, but with improvement and a bit of luck can win the flag.

From the Stats for 05 and Career Stats, I have picked the best 22 for the start of the year IMO

B: S.FISHER---------------M.HUDGHTON----------B.VOSS
HB: B.GODDARD--------M.MAGUIRE-------------X.CLARKE
C: R.CLARKE-------------L.HAYES-------------------S.BAKER
HF: L.MONTAGNA------N.RIEWOLDT------------ R.HARVEY
F: A.HAMILL--------------F.GEHRIG-----------------S.MILNE

Foll: J.KOSCHITZKE-----N.DAL SANTO-----------L.BALL

Int: A.FIORA-----C.ACKLAND------S.POWELL-----A.THOMPSON

Emerg: J.PECKETT-----J.BLAKE----A.McQUALTER---F.WATTS

Note: minimum of 4 are normally injured, so you can add all 4 emergancies to the 22.

B: S.GILBERT ------------T.SCHWARZE------------L.FISHER
HB: M.FERGUSON----------J.BLAKE---------------J.GRAM
C: J.GWILT-----------------M.McGOUGH------------J.PECKETT
HF: J.SWEENEY ------------F.WATTS--------------- P.RAYMOND
F: D.PFITZNER --------------B.BROOKS---------------A.MURRAY

Foll: M.RIX---------------------C.CORR----------------A.McQUALTER

Int: E.McDONNELL

 

[kosi_23]

Re: Team Changes

We have an excellent spread of players

I think were in for a big year

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

MSG doing what he does:

Why do you think we've made "poorer draft choices"?
Here are our picks from 2004:

Pick #17, Andrew McQualter- Played 7 games this year and has shown huge promise, right from his 16-disposal 11-tackle debut at Subi vs West Coast. Went on and played consistently from there on. Has bulked up considerably over the pre-season and looks like he will over-take Andrew Thompson this year.

Pick #33, Cain Ackland- After a few injury-riddled seasons with Port, he finally hit his straps in 2005, holding down our number 1 ruck spot, and also proved that he was quite handy up forward. An absolute bargin at pick 33, will only get better.

Pick #49, Mark McGough- Probably the most maligned player at the club because of his dodgy kicking and lack of pace, however he has shown that he can rack up 20 possessions a game from 40 minutes of game time, and has significantly improved his disposal over the pre-season and has been working on his running style. Probable replacement for Powell in a couple of years.

Pick #63, James Gwilt- Probably the only person to ever dominate a qualifying final in their second game. Gwilty has a beautiful, long accurate kick, is good overhead and is a very big boy now. He certainly won't be pushed around in '06.

So the 2004 draft turned out to be excellent, and the 2005 draft looks very promising as well.

Pick #33, Sam Gilbert- Has impressed with his blistering pace and great skills. Difinate replacement for Hudghton in a few years. A bit too thin to play AFL yet though.

Pick #49, Michael Rix- The big, strong tap-ruckman everyone has been saying we need. Except this guy has good pace, excellent endurance and ok skills. But we're still not sure if he'll make it at AFL level though..could turn out to be another NicK Stone.

Pick #63, Philip Raymond- Too skinny to play any time soon, but has amazing skills, great pace and a good goal-sense.

Pick #70-something, Justin Sweeney- He has good skills, is very, very competitive, good overhead and can play with the big-boys. Has been accused of being a bit lazy at training, but when he puts his mind to it in practice games, he has been awsome.

So how exactly do you think we've recruited poorly? It seems we've addressed all of the flaws in the playing group, both long and short-term.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

Re: Team Changes

MSG doing what he does:

I like making trolls shut up!

The key is to say things that make sense, because it overloads their little brains. After a post like that, they're restricted to immature, over-used one-liners about someone/something they don't like about our club (usually GT or our spoon collection).

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

From this thread

From http://footygeek.com/content/view/1929/83/

If you look at the table below, we can make some simple comparisons between all team lists for 2006. The first section shows how many teenagers are on each club’s primary list (excluding rookies). These guys are the future of the club, their fortunes over the next 5 years will have a significant impact on how well the club does. Richmond and Hawthorn who are pursuing a strict youth policy lead the way with Port Adelaide, somewhat surprisingly next on the list. The teams near the top of this list can be interpreted as those clubs in the rebuilding phase of the development of their lists.

The next section of the table reveals how many 20-24 year olds are on each list. The effect of Geelong’s focus on developing youth from the late 1990’s are revealed with 24 players on their list in this age group. For many of the players in this age bracket this phase of their development is very important as they are heavily scrutinised in this period by coaching staff to determine if they will stay on the list or be delisted.

Having a lot of young players does not necessarily mean that success is years away. Premierships can be won with these groups of players. The 1993 Essendon team list before the season began had seven teenagers and five 20-24 year olds that would go on to be part of the premiership team that year.






The next table shows the number of player in the 25+ age bracket, these players should be at the peak of their playing ability and given that they have survived on an AFL list to this age should be talented. This is a very important group in the sense that it should provide leadership to the youngsters in the list and in game situations be able to keep a cool head in pressure situations.








Interestingly, the two Grand Finalists from last year both sit exactly in the middle of the table below which shows the average age of each list for 2006. It is apparent that Adelaide and St Kilda both have the oldest lists in the competition indicating that they may soon get ‘too old’, so any premiership success must be achieved in the next year or two before each of these clubs has to go through a new rebuilding phase. The numbers may look like they are close but the difference between Adelaide on top and Hawthorn on the bottom is over 500 days for each player on the list. For a list of 40 players that is 20,000 extra days (around 54 years) of experience. That is significant difference.







Age is but one factor among many that guides a team’s fortunes through any particular season. However, having a gander at where your team sits amongst the other teams in terms of age hopefully provides a little perspective about where the club sits now in terms of experience.





- Ages used were current at 24th Jan 2006.

as of today(16/02/06):

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

Bump

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

Bump

 

[Watching the Coach]

Re: Team Changes

The placings of teams at the end of the H&A season last ten years:

?? Year. - 96-97-98-99-00-01-02-03-04-05
Freman. - 13-12-15-15-12-16-13-05-09-10 5 years in the bottom 4, 0 years in top 4.
Magpies - 11-08-14-16-15-09-04-02-13-15 5 years in the bottom 4, 2 years in top 4.
Hawtho - 08-15-13-09-08-06-10- 09-15-14 4 years in the bottom 4, 0 years in top 4
Richmon - 09-13-09-12-09-04-14-13-16-12 4 years in the bottom 4, 1 year in top 4.
Demons - 14-16-04-14-03-11-06-14-05-07 4 years in the bottom 4, 2 years in top 4.
Carlton. - 05-11-11-06-02-05-16-15-11-16 3 years in the bottom 4, 1 year in top 4
St Kilda - 10-01-06-10-16-15-15-11–03-04 3 years in the bottom 4, 3 years in top 4.
W Bulld - 15–03-02–04-07-10- 12-16-14-09 3 years in the bottom 4, 3 years in top 4.

This is all pretty interesting.

but why?

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Team Changes

It is an argument buster.
I've encountered beligerant Melbourne supporters who try to belittle St Kilda's performance or a Collingwood supporter might argue that the Saints have only got where they are because the draft. I pull this out and show them that while they may be right, their team is worse.