Sydney's insistence on playing their home games at the SCG was because Collingwood kept beating them at Stadium Australia.
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Sydney's record in grand finals needs scrutinising
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And you’re living up to your name with all of these impaired thoughts and outdated views
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So maybe we’re fighting over bragging rights
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Bet them about 13 times in a row. We’ve always matched up well on them
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So maybe we’re fighting over bragging rights
Maybe yeah lol
Turn it up. That place was an injury inducing shithole. They couldn't get away quickly enough
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Really?? So the morning after a team has suffered a devastating loss, you think it’s really normal to go on their board and hang shit on them?
Mind you, it was Sunday morning, which as we all know comes after Saturday night, which as we all know is when people go out and hope to get lucky, and so it was pretty obvious that…
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In fairness, he was hardly Robinson Crusoe there. And McGuire did provide an awful lot of material to work with.
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The awful reality is that this thread will run like wildfire until they win a flag
The heaviness of the defeats is a concern but I think Sydney peaked too early this year and their competitors went to work on them in the second half of the season. I never at any point this year considered them a complete premiership team. I know that sounds silly as they occupied top spot all year and made the grand final. But take a closer look - there forwardline is dysfunctional and lacks quality (Amartey, McDonald and McLean strike fear into nobody). This issue was papered over by their midfielders scoring goals (i.e., Heeney). Time and time again Andrews, Payne and Lester mopped up yesterday and they are far more accomplished defenders than the above mentioned are as forwards.
Sydney’s defence is undersized and other than McCartin lacks key position quality and an elite small defender that could go with Lohmann and Cameron. They also do not have an elite winger either, perhaps due to lack of necessity for such a position on the small SCG. You need an elite winger on the MCG.
So it’s basically down to their midfield which has proven to be very good for much of the season, though the hardened clearance players in Neale, Dunkley and the quality of Ashcroft exposed their soft underbelly. Brisbane were riding a wave of momentum, were desperate to atone for last year and are generally a better rounded and more compete team than Sydney. Don’t be fooled by the 5th place on the ladder. They were the best team in it this year in my opinion.
In 2022 the Swans were a very young side that were the beneficiaries of a Melbourne implosion and rode a bit of luck to get to the GF. The Cats were primed and far more experienced.
2016 was a big missed opportunity for them but like this year, they were facing a Footscray team riding a big wave of momentum and good will from neutrals.
The non-competitiveness of 2014 was an eyebrow raiser for sure.
Sydney’s defence is undersized and other than McCartin lacks key position quality and an elite small defender that could go with Lohmann and Cameron. They also do not have an elite winger either, perhaps due to lack of necessity for such a position on the small SCG. You need an elite winger on the MCG.
So it’s basically down to their midfield which has proven to be very good for much of the season, though the hardened clearance players in Neale, Dunkley and the quality of Ashcroft exposed their soft underbelly. Brisbane were riding a wave of momentum, were desperate to atone for last year and are generally a better rounded and more compete team than Sydney. Don’t be fooled by the 5th place on the ladder. They were the best team in it this year in my opinion.
In 2022 the Swans were a very young side that were the beneficiaries of a Melbourne implosion and rode a bit of luck to get to the GF. The Cats were primed and far more experienced.
2016 was a big missed opportunity for them but like this year, they were facing a Footscray team riding a big wave of momentum and good will from neutrals.
The non-competitiveness of 2014 was an eyebrow raiser for sure.
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The SCG is wider than Perth Stadium, GIANTS Stadium, Marvel Stadium, Adelaide Oval and GMHBA Stadium, so this would be a problem for most teams surely?
Worse than Marvel?
I’m thinking more length-wise with the 50m arcs basically touching the centre square. A more condensed set up with less need for hard running link up players on the wing. I do note that Florent got 24 disposals yesterday though so maybe that wing point is less salient.
Yeah worse
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Way worse. Anyone who knows Sydney knows why that place is a shithole.
Absolute pain to get to if you live anywhere east of Ryde, which the majority of the Swans fanbase do.
There's nothing out there. No pubs within any walking distance, and no buzz or energy as it's so far from the city. It's been an albatross around Rugby League's neck for years.
Basically, take everything we love about the MCG and the surrounding areas, and take it all away while driving 45 minutes to an hour down the road to get there.
Add to that the injuries sustained on the ground and the health and safety elements (see Jarryd Roughead) and it's clear as day why they wanted to get out of the joint.
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I know there's a tendency to hyper analyse at these times, but I found Dane Rampes comments interesting
"Im at peace with our preparation which makes this hollow, we don't know what went wrong"
"Im at peace with our preparation which makes this hollow, we don't know what went wrong"
Kobe Gryant
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Rampe seems like a pretty switched on dude, at least by footballer standards.
Probably just taking the philosophical route that we did all we can to prepare, and what will be, will be.
Maybe not ideal for a captain, but I wouldn't read too much into it.
Yes true, but it suggests that the loss has come as a complete shock to them
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