Rumour Tales from the Henley Beach Cafe: CROWS 2021 RUMOURS

[Sanders]

If you want to test if it's FAITH just ask him if he wants to eradicate the Chinese.

or ask him his views on women!

 

[FR0GGY]

Straight swap

or ask him his views on women!

Chinese women!

 

[Sanders]

Straight swap

Chinese women!

straight swap?

how about transitioning Chinese women.

 

[Murray2503]

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NO Player would advise a club that he wants out, 6 weeks out from the 1st game of a new season ......his Manager wouldn't be that dumb

He may have said, via his Manager that he doesn't want to sign a new Contract at this stage ......but that's not unusual, he'd want to have a good season to strengthen his contract value

If this is true that McAsey isn't sticking around I don't have a problem with it. From what I saw last year he didn't show much to get excited about and I'm not sure why we drafted him tbh. The problem I have is that we didn't draft Heath Chapman at pick 11 last year who will be a much better player than McAsey imo. We now need to trade in an experienced KPB end of 2021 as a matter of urgency.

 

[GameofSloanes]

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NO Player would advise a club that he wants out, 6 weeks out from the 1st game of a new season ......his Manager wouldn't be that dumb

He may have said, via his Manager that he doesn't want to sign a new Contract at this stage ......but that's not unusual, he'd want to have a good season to strengthen his contract value

This. If he told the club that he wouldn't get a game as we would want to get games into players that are staying

 

[GameofSloanes]

Half of the first 20 picks from McAsey's draft remain uncontacted beyond this year.

They must all be leaving

 

[GameofSloanes]

Publicly demand a first round pick

Eventually end up accepting a 2nd rounder with our 3rd going back to them

I just threw up a little bit
Had repressed those memories

 

[Sanders]

If this is true that McAsey isn't sticking around I don't have a problem with it. From what I saw last year he didn't show much to get excited about and I'm not sure why we drafted him tbh. The problem I have is that we didn't draft Heath Chapman at pick 11 last year who will be a much better player than McAsey imo. We now need to trade in an experienced KPB end of 2021 as a matter of urgency.

is perhaps the problem that you genuinely can’t see why he was highly rated?

that you literally don’t know why, and can’t see what makes one player more highly rated than another

 

[Doctor B]

I cant believe how many have written off a 19 year old 6ft 6 key back.

How many CHB's play great games as 19 year olds the year they get drafted?

Talia was on our list for well over a year before he played his first game.
Rutten, Talia, Phil Davis

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Phil Davis

Age

34

Ht

197cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.7

4star

MG

55.5

1star

D

8.5

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

55.5

1star

D

14.0

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

, Bock, Rance, at the same age still hadn't debuted.

 

[hey shorty]

I cant believe how many have written off a 19 year old 6ft 6 key back.

How many CHB's play great games as 19 year olds the year they get drafted?

Talia was on our list for well over a year before he played his first game.
Rutten, Talia, Phil Davis, Bock, Rance, at the same age still hadn't debuted.

It's not that people have written him off, it's that people jump at shadows and think he's leaving.

 

[FR0GGY]

straight swap?

how about transitioning Chinese women.

Straight swap must have been something I was going to type previously, wasn’t supposed to be in the reply.

 

[Betts are off]

I cant believe how many have written off a 19 year old 6ft 6 key back.

How many CHB's play great games as 19 year olds the year they get drafted?

Talia was on our list for well over a year before he played his first game.
Rutten, Talia, Phil Davis, Bock, Rance, at the same age still hadn't debuted.

I just think he’s a bit of an introvert. And people take that body language as disinterested or unhappy and are drawing the super long ‘he wants out’ bow from that alone.

In reality, not every 18 year old bloke has Ned McHenry’s or Ben Davis’ extravert personality. Some just keep to themselves a bit more. But that holds absolutely no weight in their playing ability, potential or contract status.

 

[1970crow]

I definitely agree that its vital we come out even with McAsey. We certainly cannot afford to waste top 10 picks, especially with the Jones pick at the moment looking wobbly. That said Borlase also deserves a mention for being a big winner if McAsey goes, he's one I've written off as a nice depth piece but with limited scope to becoming a best 22 player (mainly just being a tweener and myself rating Butts very highly), however his situation does vastly improve if McAsey goes.

I'm definitely an adherent to the idea that you can cheap out in your key defensive stocks and rely on building a good defensive structure to get the most out of them instead of looking for a transcendent talent in the sector, so whilst I also think it's vital, I'd rather see whatever we recoup get invested into our midfield.

Defence works better with pressure on ball carriers heading in their direction. Stopping an opponent marking the ball is multiple times easier than marking it when someone's trying to stop you. The red carpet system we've preferred the last few years makes it as difficult as possible for defenders.

 

[1970crow]

Yeah... agree, was more hopefull that he would come good but not looking likely.
I did read a post that he is having a good preseason so let's hope he can get back to the old Sloaney.

Just needs to stop playing injured. Plenty of kids to roll through the middle so he can get right. He can't carry the injuries he could in his early/mid 20's. We've got to start trusting the kids when the Tex, Talia and Sloane's are injured. Talia playing out the year with a torn meniscus while McAsey/Butts were left in the shed cannot continue.

 

[Crow till I die]

Defence works better with pressure on ball carriers heading in their direction. Stopping an opponent marking the ball is multiple times easier than marking it when someone's trying to stop you. The red carpet system we've preferred the last few years makes it as difficult as possible for defenders.

+1

Poor McAsey got thrown to the wolves last year with the avalanche of ball that came down back. Still maybe that is a selling point to him..you got to see the worst of things and this year things will be on the up which we as a club want you to be a cornerstone of

 

[ftmch]

I just think he’s a bit of an introvert. And people take that body language as disinterested or unhappy and are drawing the super long ‘he wants out’ bow from that alone.

In reality, not every 18 year old bloke has Ned McHenry’s or Ben Davis’ extravert personality. Some just keep to themselves a bit more. But that holds absolutely no weight in their playing ability, potential or contract status.

Yep, totally agree. I was thinking - would his demeanor be different were he in another team / club? Admittedly I know bugger all about him, but I don't reckon it would. I reckon he's just a quiet, focused kid like you said.

He also didn't have the greatest year last year (entirely understandable), but as he get's some good games under his belt his confidence will grow, which may help us see another side of him.

 

[1970crow]

Half of the first 20 picks from McAsey's draft remain uncontacted beyond this year.

I think a comparison between our last 5 year's history of extending our most recent batch of draftees is more relevant. Other clubs may have very different policies. McAsey right now is an outlier, I went back to at least Lever and of all our first round draftees I think only one wasn't signed by round 1 of second year. I think they signed in April. Mostly they're signed during their first season or second off season. Leads me to be very confident in saying he'd have had a contract offer on the table for many months. It might be at v6.7, but it'd have been there in some form for a long time.

 

[Brenton Davy]

At the risk of repeating myself for around the 6th time, we write off young KPP’s far too quickly.

Nathan Bock

Nathan Bock

Age

41

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

4.0

2star

HB

2.0

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

2.0

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.7

4star

thread (again...)

 

[Mutineer]

If this is true that McAsey isn't sticking around I don't have a problem with it. From what I saw last year he didn't show much to get excited about and I'm not sure why we drafted him tbh. The problem I have is that we didn't draft Heath Chapman at pick 11 last year who will be a much better player than McAsey imo. We now need to trade in an experienced KPB end of 2021 as a matter of urgency.

It's hard to believe someone can actually be that clueless...

2019 U18 All Australian Centre Half Back.
2019 Vic Metro M.V.P at the U18 Championships

Clearly the best Key Back in his draft year.

Daniel Talia reaching the twilight of his career and Kyle Hartigan not seen as a long term prospect at the time...and you're not sure why we drafted him?

WA skipper dominates to lead Sandgropers past Vic Metro

Star midfielder Deven Robertson led the way as Western Australia accounted for Vic Metro by 17 points in their round one match of the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships

www.afl.com.au

WESTERN AUSTRALIA 2.6 4.9 9.12 12.14 (86)
VIC METRO 2.2 4.5 5.7 10.9 (69)

GOALS
Western Australia: Henry 3, Taylor 2, Johnson 2, Thorne 2, J. Jackson, Bennell, Rivers
Vic Metro: Worrell 4, Jones 2, Honey, Dean, Bianco, Rowell

BEST
Western Australia: Robertson, L. Jackson, Garcia, Rivers, Warner, Pasini
Vic Metro: Worrell, Rowell, Mott, Sturgess, Butler, McAsey

Top-five draft prospects shine as U18 Championships kick off

Vic Country opened the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships with a win over Vic Metro

www.afl.com.au

VIC METRO 3.2 3.4 5.6 7.9 (51)
VIC COUNTRY 3.1 5.4 6.9 9.10 (64)

GOALS
Vic Metro: Cassar, Rowell, McAsey, Maginness, Jones, Honey, Ralphsmith
Vic Country: Smith 3, Cahill 2, Flanders, Hollands, Martin, Comben

BEST
Vic Metro: Rowell, Anderson, Butler, Bergman, Cassar
Vic Country: Young, Serong, Ash, Rantall, Cahill, Sparkes

U18 champs: Allies edge Vic Metro as Green puts on 'Cripps-like' show

Third-term surge propels Allies to first win of NAB Under-18 Championships

www.afl.com.au

Sandringham Dragons product Fischer McAsey was prolific for Metro, racking up 19 disposals, seven marks and six rebound 50s.


VIC METRO 2.0 5.1 6.4 10.8 (68)
ALLIES 4.0 5.2 10.3 11.4 (70)

GOALS
Vic Metro: Mahony 3, Bergman, Jeka, Jones, Rossiter, Rowell, Sturgess, Williams
Allies: Gore 3, Ellem 2, Gulden 2, Rosas 2, Green, Oea

BEST
Vic Metro: McGuinness, Rowell, Mahony, McAsey, Anderson, Bergman
Allies: Green, Gulden, Gore, Parks, Cumberland, Peatling

 

[Mr_Moogle]

The idea behind drafting McAsey was perfectly sound. I think he's going to bail at the end of the year though.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

The idea behind drafting McAsey was perfectly sound. I think he's going to bail at the end of the year though.

A year is a long time in football...

There is a lot of wasted energy by many speculating.

 

[hey shorty]

The idea behind drafting McAsey was perfectly sound. I think he's going to bail at the end of the year though.

Would be extremely disappointing.

He's not going to get a better chance of being an AFL player than he is here. Hamish and Co will always pick the best available but this would be a big black mark IMO

 

[Mr_Moogle]

A year is a long time in football...

There is a lot of wasted energy by many speculating.

I'm not wasting energy worrying about it. If he leaves it will be water off a ducks back from my point of view.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I'm not wasting energy worrying about it. If he leaves it will be water off a ducks back from my point of view.

Many are though.

Apparently we are losing every uncontracted player lol.

No point worrying about what we can't control.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

The idea behind drafting McAsey was perfectly sound. I think he's going to bail at the end of the year though.

He has developed close relationships and will stay IMO

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