Preview Teams: Hawthorn vs Geelong

[IBleedBrownNGold]

Perhaps open training session tomorrow will tell us more about how Chucky's travelling?

 

[Rioli magic]

Would have liked another tall to be honest. Cats take alot of marks in defence and given Roughy is playing less forward and Buddy ain't the greatest overhead mark. Either Lilse or another ruckman with the view of subbing one off after half time could have been an option.

It's a tough decision. In theory I agree with you, but we have had some real success with the small forward line ( may just be a coincidence of getting on top in the middle too?). It was noticeable last week week after Lisle was subbed and Poppy and Bruest went forward, the pressure was superb. 2nd half vs Melbourne, vs St Kilda etc... tough call.

 

[Badesumofu]

I would say this means that if Buddy doesn't come up then Renouf will come in as a second ruck, and Roughy will play as a key forward. This also appears to confirm that the club currently rates Bailey as first choice ruck.

I like the team, only change I might make is Smith in for Young, but I suppose Young should get two games to prove himself.

Great ins though, Hawthorn have come into $2.92 from $3.40 on Betfair since the teams were named.

 

[Mervyn Beasley]

Hawks
In: Franklin Savage
Out: Cheney Lisle

Cats:
In: Chapman Milburn
Out: Cowan Wojcinski

Hawthorn

B: Grant Birchall, Josh Gibson, Paul Puopolo
HB: Brent Guerra, Ryan Schoenmakers, Thomas Murphy
C: Clinton Young, Sam Mitchell, Jordan Lewis
HF: Shaun Burgoyne, Lance Franklin, Liam Shiels
F: Cyril Rioli, Jarryd Roughead, Michael Osborne
Foll: Max Bailey, Luke Hodge, Brad Sewell
I/C: Brendan Whitecross, Shane Savage, Luke Breust, Matt Suckling
Emg: Rick Ladson, Brent Renouf, Kyle Cheney

In: Lance Franklin, Shane Savage
Out: Jordan Lisle, Kyle Cheney


Geelong Cats

B: Josh Hunt, Tom Lonergan, Matthew Scarlett
HB: Andrew Mackie, Harry Taylor, Taylor Hunt
C: Jimmy Bartel, Cameron Ling, Corey Enright
HF: Steve Johnson, James Podsiadly, Paul Chapman
F: Mathew Stokes, Brad Ottens, Daniel Menzel
Foll: Nathan Vardy, Travis Varcoe, Joel Corey
I/C: James Kelly, Darren Milburn, Joel Selwood, Mitch Duncan
Emg: Tom Hawkins, Allen Christensen, Josh Cowan

In: Paul Chapman, Darren Milburn
Out: David Wojcinski (Soreness), Josh Cowan

I know sides dont line up as listed these days but a side with a Kelly, Selwood and Milburn on its bench is a pretty ominous looking side.

That said, if the planets align and our mid tier players do the business and thus bring our stars into the game it will be 4 points to us

 

[Easy Slips Catch]

Sav straight back in, Max holding out Renouf - just fantastic.

 

[illnino]

Great ins. Hope Young is the sub. Breust to start on field. Disagree about playing another tall. If we think they can win by pumping high balls in and taking contested marks I50 we are all kidding ourselves. Geelong excell at this game - Hawks are less than average. No wojo - get the ball to ground and run them ragged.

Agree with this.

Smith in for Young would have been ideal for mine, but more than happy to give Youngy another shot. He played really well for a quarter of footy last weekend (except for his kicking) so he may be able to come on as the sub halfway through the 3rd quarter and have the same kind of impact again.

Breust deserves a full game but I do get the feeling he'll get the sub gig again, which isn't necessarily a bad thing if he can have even close to the same impact he's been having while playing this role as of late.

Very happy to see Savage back also

I reckon Buddy will play, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a late change or two from either side.

 

[gags79]

Must not give Chappy the ball within Geelongs 60mt forward arc....

Can someone text Clarko that please.....?

 

[Dubz]

Must not give Chappy the ball within Geelongs 60mt forward arc....

Can someone text Clarko that please.....?

Haha, yeah that's the first thing i thought when i saw he was an in for the Cats. He's such a good player and he never seems to have a quiet one against us.

 

[Hawker_Ant]

I know sides dont line up as listed these days but a side with a Kelly, Selwood and Milburn on its bench is a pretty ominous looking side.

That said, if the planets align and our mid tier players do the business and thus bring our stars into the game it will be 4 points to us

Yes, that's a strong Geelong side. To win this one we'll need to put in a big effort at the clearances/stoppages.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

No excuses. Very good team on paper.

 

[AllFooty4]

With the out of Wojo and the in of Savage, do we have more run then Geelong? Birchall's been great, we know savage is, Shield works hard as does most of the backline for marks. ???

Wish Smith was in we'd probably be able to win by simply running hard into open space every time.

 

[macdaddio]

No excuses. Very good team on paper.

But Geelong hate losing to the HAWKS, they said so......

 

[IBleedBrownNGold]

But Geelong hate losing to the HAWKS, they said so......

Nahhh... they got over losing to us in the Grand Final by winning the 09 GF.

 

[Hawkzzz]

Must not give Chappy the ball within Geelongs 60mt forward arc....

Can someone text Clarko that please.....?

Don't worry, we all know this and Clarko will instruct whoever is on him. That said, it depends on how well we execute it. But it definitely won't go unnoticed.

Big game. I think Freo's game was a great wake up call. The way we beat the bulldogs isn't a realistic long term game plan. They took tempo footy to another level. When the ground has a bit of dew and is a bit blustery, you can't pull that style off.

The lads need to use the short kicks when it suits and at the end of the day, we need to play with the same desperation as in the last qtr vs Freo. Let's hope.

 

[cantos_tevez]

The last time Wojcinski didn't play against the Hawks was when he was left out of the 2008 Grand Final.

In each of the 5 wins they have had against us since he has had minor effect in terms of number of disposals, however the run he provides makes him a 100m player, thus only 10-15 possies are required to make a scoring impact from the half back line.

I think he is a huge out, and I am actually quite optimistic about the Hawks this weekend compared to how I was feeling before the teams were released.

 

[Goody1971]

Renouf is the replacement for Buddy if he doesn't pull up. He could also be the replacement for Max who might be rested?

That's scary

 

[That's deliberate]

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Hawks by plenty 39+

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[IBleedBrownNGold]

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Hawks by plenty 39+

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Send in the clowns....

TD... did you accidentally take the wrong pills this morning?

 

[Glebehawk]

not sure how white x is keeping his spot - Smith for whitecross...would love to see it.

 

[Buddy Guy]

That's scary

Last time these 2 played together...

GOALS
Hawthorn: Renouf 3, Franklin 3, Savage 2, Mitchell, Shiels, Whitecross, Sewell, Hodge, Bateman, Smith

Renouf=Franklin

 

[burner1]

That's one very strong looking geelong side (geez look at the bench) - its going to be a cracker of a match.

Assuming gibson can break even/ beat the resting ruck up forward our backline matches up pretty well. Midfield will be a war and our forward line has the talent to really worry them - especially now our small forwards are staying in the forward line.

 

[halfbackflank09]

Great anticipation.

C'mon Hawks ..... we're due.

 

[That's deliberate]

TD... did you accidentally take the wrong pills this morning?

nope i finally found the right ones..

 

[IBleedBrownNGold]

nope i finally found the right ones..

Good... Cause i was starting to get a bit worried.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Key Match-ups for the match from our point of view:

Murphy to Johnson - Done the job before. Will have to wear him like a glove when he's down in the forward line, hopefully he pulls out a performance like he did against the Doggies.

Guerra/Puopolo to Chapman (when forward) - Don't know who would be best suited out of either of our players. Probably would have to lean towards Guerra simply because he's much more experienced and Puopolo could be undone by Chapman's canny-ness.

Guerra/Puopolo to Stokes - I think Puopolo could do a job on him. I think Guerra could probably get free a bit more running off Stokes compared to Chapman. Either way he's dangerous around goals and they'll have to be vigilant.

Lewis to Bartel - If he tags again I think Bartel would be a good match-up. Neither are quick and Bartel can play more of an outside role than Selwood, who would be harder to tag considering his game-style.

Sewell to Selwood - Will probably play off each other a bit, I hope Sewell backs himself in here and they go head-to-head.



From their point of view:

Lonergan to Franklin - when he's down forward. Don't know who would pick him up when he goes for one of his runs, I guess Mackie's the obvious choice.

Ling to Hodge or Mitchell - has done the job on both, but granted Hodge was playing on one leg last time around. Like others have said, I'd like to see Hodge moved forward if he's getting tagged by Ling - I expect he'll move onto Mitchell if this happens, in which case I'd like to see Hodge push up into the midfield again. Geelong have to roll the dice here, who do they tag? Maybe Burgoyne could feature too. I expect Kelly and or Corey will be given a job too.

Enright to Rioli - With Wojinski out I think Geelong will have to sit someone who's reliable on Rioli, and Enright fits the bill. Though this will probably stop some of their drive off half-back.