The BigFooty Liverpool Army - Part 22

[hbk_aus]

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As much as you might not like it, Liverpool don't manage the press well (either do City for that matter) and haven't done for some time. I also wouldn't rule out revenge as a fourth factor. Suarez has seriously pissed off a lot of people in the press. and when you're pissed off with someone you're less inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Completely agree, Liverpools PR handling, especially in the Suarez case was abysmal. From the owners, Ayre, to Dalglish to the player himself. And the more Suarez goes on about the English media (as right as I think he is), the longer it will continue. Dalglish's attitude towards the media wouldn't have helped either - after snapping their heads off all season they were waiting for a chance to strike.

 

[Zidane98]

If City paid 22 million + add-ons for Lescott they can pay 30 million plus add ons for Agger. Otherwise they can piss off.

 

[hbk_aus]

Why would there be this concerted effort to make Suarez look bad? Everyone already thinks he's scum, why when newspapers are struggling to survive would newspapers bother?

Well apart from u already answering that in your last post, he is a hot topic. Readers want to hear about how "bad" he is so of course they are going to feed the seagulls. Same reason why the herald Sun is basically the Collingwood newsletter - catering for the majority.

 

[BlueBen]

Suarez has seriously pissed off a lot of people in the press. and when you're pissed off with someone you're less inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

I'm curious as to why you think the press would be pissed off with Suarez?

I'd have thought that, on the contrary, they would be delighted with him, in the sense that Suarez keeps providing them with material on the basis of which they can write their "stories", plus, as far as I am aware, Suarez hasn't done anything to offend the media specifically.

 

[moomba]

If City paid 22 million + add-ons for Lescott they can pay 30 million plus add ons for Agger. Otherwise they can piss off.

Lescott had 4 years left on his contract and apart from a major injury with Wolves has an excellent injury record.

 

[moomba]

I'm curious as to why you think the press would be pissed off with Suarez?

I'd have thought that, on the contrary, they would be delighted with him, in the sense that Suarez keeps providing them with material on the basis of which they can write their "stories", plus, as far as I am aware, Suarez hasn't done anything to offend the media specifically.

The Evra thing turned a largely pro Liverpool press against Liverpool in a any I'd never seen. not just the incident but the reaction to it.

 

[moomba]

Well apart from u already answering that in your last post, he is a hot topic. Readers want to hear about how "bad" he is so of course they are going to feed the seagulls. Same reason why the herald Sun is basically the Collingwood newsletter - catering for the majority.

Do you really think that picture is going to sell more newspapers?

 

[cooney]

Press conference with Brendan Rodgers right now .. you can watch here what he said :

Brendan Rodgers confirms there was genuine interest from other clubs in Luis Suarez. 'I saw the fax come in.'

Rodgers confirms LFC have been in talks with Craig Bellamy and Cardiff about him returning to Wales.

Rodgers on Agger: 'Every player has his price. Daniel is a top player, loves the club. But you can never say never.'

Brendan Rodgers: 'the intention is to bring in a few more players. I'd love them to be here sooner rather than later.'

Brendan Rodgers: 'to walk out at Anfield for my first game will be an incredible privilege, but my focus will be to win.'

 

[ADL9798]

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I reckon there's three things.

- loyalty, you won't find many chelsea supporters in the press slagging terry. likewise arsenal supporters and Wilshire, Liverpool supporters slagging Suarez.
- money, terry spends a huge amount on his own PR. usually to cover up just how much of a that he is.
- fear, press don't like the consequences of getting on the wrong side of terry. Ferguson is a master of managing the press in this way.

As much as you might not like it, Liverpool don't manage the press well (either do City for that matter) and haven't done for some time. I also wouldn't rule out revenge as a fourth factor. Suarez has seriously pissed off a lot of people in the press. and when you're pissed off with someone you're less inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Agree with this. Don't get me wrong, Dalglish is a legend of the game due to his record as both a player and a manager. His work for the families affected by the Hillsborough disaster means that more than any other manager in the game, his integrity is without question, what he did for the whole city of Liverpool (Red & Blue) at that time goes above and beyond what the vast majority of other footballing identities have contributed to their communities.

Having said this, I think Dalglish made a huge mistake last season in assuming that he didn't need to play nice with the media and could continue to patronize them at every opportunity. His condescending tone towards journalists at press conferences provided great entertainment for the footballing public, but it was only a matter of time before the media stopped seeing the funny side of it. I don't doubt for a second that his inability to get the media onside (despite all his contacts in the industry) contributed to his sacking, and you've already pointed out the fact our whole PR team was sacked at the end of the season. It speaks for itself.

FSG want to grow Liverpool as a global brand and integral to that is positive PR. A large part of that is the way the club is portrayed by the media. More than any other season we needed the PR department to perform last season, and they let the club down.

 

[ADL9798]

Do you really think that picture is going to sell more newspapers?

Every image in every article in every paper is chosen for exactly that reason. They're not going to spend millions on marketing strategy and then put an image in just because 'it looks funny'. It's all part of a bigger picture.

 

[moomba]

Every image in every article in every paper is chosen for exactly that reason. They're not going to spend millions on marketing strategy and then put an image in just because 'it looks funny'. It's all part of a bigger picture.

Not how it works in the business.

 

[cooney]

BR on 'will Bellamy go?'" I would think so yes. His family is still in Cardiff, in my view he'd already made his decision last season." #LFC

 

[Gameova_]

judging by rodgers comments on agger 2dayits simple either agger signs or hes off.... i think hes gne hope we have a good replacement.... skrtel will sign a new contract sooon aswell

 

[ADL9798]

Rodgers on Agger:

"They are at a premium top centre backs, he's one of the leading players in Europe. Is he a player I want to lose? No he's not"

"I'm not forced to have to sell anyone, which is important & Daniel is a very, very important player for here"

"The reality is, if a club comes in with a massive bid, then the club may have to look at it."

Then when he was questioned further on it:

"Every player has his price. Daniel is a top player, loves the club. But you can never say never."

Seems consistent with what's been said in here. The club wants to keep him, Agger wants to stay, but if a huge offer came in that they'd look at it.

 

[jod23]

20m is too good an offer.
I will be sad but we have good replacements.

A. It's City and they are loaded, so make them pay 30 million.
B. No we dont have good replacements. Coates is still young and inexperienced in England. Kelly also young and has played all of his football at RB. Carrager is old. Agger simply must stay.

 

[jod23]

Bellamy looks gone you would think in the next couple of days. Which is disappointing. I love him and was hoping for one more season with him. Two stints at the club and neither went longer than one season. Really top player and another blow to our squad with him out the door, following other squad players like Maxi and Kuyt. Leaving us pretty thin.

As for Agger. BR was pretty non-committal but he was the same with AC. Not really sure what to make of it. I think if a big enough offer comes in Agger will go but that would be a mistake. A big mistake. BR said it himself, we dont have to sell. So...erm why would we. Unless the offer is literally ridiculous. 40 million plus.

Buying terrific world class centre halfs is very difficult, also made more difficult if signing a foreigner to come into the English league and adapt. We could sell Agger for 40 million buy a 20 million rated CB and he could fail miserably. Just not worth it when we already have Agger. Just re-sign him and get on with it. Not to mention he is PERFECT for BR's system because he is one of the most comfortable center halfs in world football with the ball at his feet.

 

[jod23]

Also it's annoying we have gone back to people leaving like Bells and Agger instead of who's coming in. We really need to sign another 3-4 players. Pronto too...

 

[moomba]

A. It's City and they are loaded, so make them pay 30 million.

You can't just make a club pay what you want.

 

[jod23]

You can't just make a club pay what you want.

No you cant but we have slapped a pricetag on him. 25 million from reports.

I honestly cant see us selling him. He is our best defender and we dont need the money. Just no need whatsoever to sell.

 

[moomba]

No you cant but we have slapped a pricetag on him. 25 million from reports.

Rumours you mean.

I honestly cant see us selling him. He is our best defender and we dont need the money. Just no need whatsoever to sell.

As your manager says, every player has a price. And no club can afford to give up as much as £18m on a player that is worth nothing in a club of years time.

Still boils down to if he wants to leave or not, and how far he is prepared to go to see it happen.

 

[Cooldude]

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Suarez has seriously pissed off a lot of people in the press. and when you're pissed off with someone you're less inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Wow, really? Are you really gonna go along this point? Okay, time to stop this silence and smash some stupidity

They would've loved Suarez for being able to enforce their xenophobic agenda and help them sell some papers and get on the moral high horse all the way through. They would love it more if there are more material coming at them from Suarez. He is a ****ing gold mine the same way Warnie is to them

Oh, you ain't gonna bring up the whole diving, racist angle, right? You mean the same press who basically had a 2nd set of treatment for Terry in his racism case and other English divers like Adam Johnson (Whom when he does it, is "clever play"). Like the English media actually gives a shit about racism in general? They're as racist as anyone

If Suarez was English, none of it would've been 1/10 as big a story as it's been. Because his alleged actions fit with the stereotypical image of an South American footballer, it helps the English to enforce their xenophobic, double standards agenda, much like the way moomba does things. If you are putting out this "revenge" angle seriously then you're kidding yourself

 

[moomba]

For someone who isn't going to start, you've certainly got a lot to say for yourself.

 

[jod23]

Rumours you mean.



As your manager says, every player has a price. And no club can afford to give up as much as £18m on a player that is worth nothing in a club of years time.

Still boils down to if he wants to leave or not, and how far he is prepared to go to see it happen.

Well apparently Agger has no intentions on leaving. So I guess it's a moot point. He has 2 years left on his contract so in a years time he wont be worth nothing.

 

[cooney]

5 AM Melbourne time, live on ESPN 2 for those that have Foxtel, looks like ill be watching can't wait!

 

[smiddy9]

Looking forward to seeing first game back at Anfield!!!
And see the Kop rocking!!
Dont even get me started on YNWA!!
Whhheeennnn youuu walkkkkk!