Unsolved The Death of Jennifer Tanner

[Kurve]

Jennifer Ruth TANNER died on the 14th November 1984 at the Tanner family farm from two gunshots to the brain including one gunshot through each hand, between the index finger and thumb (webbing) as if she was in a defensive position. It's argued that Jennifer committed suicide and also argued she was murdered.

The main suspect for her murder is her brother-in-law, former detective Dennis Tanner who is also said to be associated with the killing of a New Zealand transsexual sex worker, Adele Bailey (disappeared 1978, St Kilda). Dennis Tanner knew Adele having once placed her under arrest. Adele’s remains were uncovered in a mine shaft at Bonnie Doon, behind the Tanner family’s farm.

A 1998 inquest found that Dennis Tanner had murdered Jennifer.

Former detective Dennis Tanner has been the subject of two murder investigations in the past 30 years, for burglary, firearm and false report charges after a search warrant was executed on his Williamstown home in February 2014. These charges were dropped with senior police deciding they would not authorise the brief of evidence, believing a court case was unlikely to succeed but keeping all investigations open.

 

[Iworkthecircus]

Jennifer Ruth TANNER died on the 14th November 1984 at the Tanner family farm from two gunshots to the brain including one gunshot through each hand, between the index finger and thumb (webbing) as if she was in a defensive position. It's argued that Jennifer committed suicide and also argued she was murdered.

The main suspect for her murder is her brother-in-law, former detective Dennis Tanner who is also said to be associated with the killing of a New Zealand transsexual sex worker, Adele Bailey (disappeared 1978, St Kilda). Dennis Tanner knew Adele Bailey having once placed her under arrest. Adele Bailey’s remains were uncovered in a mine shaft at Bonnie Doon, behind the Tanner family’s farm.

A 1998 inquest found that Dennis Tanner had murdered Jennifer.

Former detective Dennis Tanner has been the subject of two murder investigations in the past 30 years, for burglary, firearm and false report charges after a search warrant was executed on his Williamstown home in February 2014. These charges were dropped with senior police deciding they would not authorise the brief of evidence, believing a court case was unlikely to succeed but keeping all investigations open.

Sounds like a lovely character .

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

This one seems to pop up periodically just like the David Eastman in the murder of Colin Winchester one (this one is in court again at the moment)

 

[Kurve]

This one seems to pop up periodically just like the David Eastman in the murder of Colin Winchester one (this one is in court again at the moment)

Still going for Tanner decades later. Similar as I'm told the whispers are they will on PDale.

 

[Badge666]

The only problem is ...Lard may very well be innocent of both the murders of his sister in law, and Adele Bailey, and he is possibly the most unfairly maligned individual of recent times in Victoria. Guilty of assisting in the cover up of both murders certainly, but as to the actual killing very possibly NO.
You see, back in those times if you had a problem in North Eastern Victoria, Lard was a bit of a " go to" man for both Police ,and citizens who were" on side".
There is a strong possibility that Adele Bailey died at a "party" at the Victoria Police Boat Social Club near Maintongoon Road Bonnie Doon, either from a heroin overdose or a bashing when it was discovered she was transexual. The manner of Adeles body disposal suggests that at the time the culprits who dumped her were not too worried if she was found.
In regards to his sister in law Jennifer Blake there are a couple of other very good suspects, who Lard has so far very successfully shielded from scrutiny,-at great personal cost to himself.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

I've read the books by Robin Bowles on Jennifer Tanner, Blind Justice and the on Adele Bailey, No Justice, great books, well worth a read.

 

[Badge666]

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I've read the books by Robin Bowles on Jennifer Tanner, Blind Justice and the on Adele Bailey, No Justice, great books, well worth a read.

Bowles spent some time in the district but did not really scratch the surface. However she learnt enough. At the conclusion of her book she said from memory...who do i think killed jenny Tanner..? the answer may surprise you...not Dennis Tanner."
Some years later she added .." I have always told Dennis I believe he did not kill Jenny, But that perhaps his subsequent actions either deliberate or accidental assisted the outcome of the poor police investigation...into....Jennys death."

 

[Badge666]

Couple of snippets Bowles did not cover,.
Heavy melbourne criminal Geoff Reading and his wife Jill had a property in Bonnie Doon not far from the Police social club and Tanners farm. He and his wife used to visit most weekends and bring with them some of the detritus of Melbournes criminal underworld. .sometimes straight out of the pen,sometimes hiding out from armed robberies.The readings would return to the city Monday leaving their" guests " alone mid week
At the time leading up to the crime the Bonnie soon area was being troubled by a mysterious " firebug" who was setting bushfires and dry grass fires which necessitated the call out of the local fire brigade.

 

[Badge666]

Night time Break ins at the empty holiday houses of the wealthy around Lake Eildon including the Bonnie Doon area at the time were numerous. So in sleepy old Bonnie Doon in 1984 , we have
A prolific prowlers /burglars of seemingly empty homes in the area
B a "mystery" firebug
C a nest of some of Melbournes heaviest armed robbers,contract killers, rapists and drug dealers.

"Ahhhhh......the serenity...."

Indeed.

 

[Kurve]

Night time Break ins at the empty holiday houses of the wealthy around Lake Eildon including the Bonnie Doon area at the time were numerous. So in sleepy old Bonnie Doon in 1984 , we have
A prolific prowlers /burglars of seemingly empty homes in the area
B a "mystery" firebug
C a nest of some of Melbournes heaviest armed robbers,contract killers, rapists and drug dealers.

"Ahhhhh......the serenity...."

Indeed.

Well ..... Kelly country.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

There are


Bowles spent some time in the district but did not really scratch the surface. However she learnt enough. At the conclusion of her book she said from memory...who do i think killed jenny Tanner..? the answer may surprise you...not Dennis Tanner."
Some years later she added .." I have always told Dennis I believe he did not kill Jenny, But that perhaps his subsequent actions either deliberate or accidental assisted the outcome of the poor police investigation...into....Jennys death."

Its not Robins style to say who done it, she prefers to give you an insight into the inconsistencies in the official story which allows the reader to question it and make their own conclusions.
Justice Denied, the Jaiyden Leskie story and Dead Centre on Peter Falconio are also presented in this way, she doesnt point the finger in any particular direction, but leaves you with no doubt that there is more to the story then what we are led to believe.

 

[Kurve]

Its not Robins style to say who done it, she prefers to give you an insight into the inconsistencies in the official story which allows the reader to question it and make their own conclusions.
Justice Denied, the Jaiyden Leskie story and Dead Centre on Peter Falconio are also presented in this way, she doesnt point the finger in any particular direction, but leaves you with no doubt that there is more to the story then what we are led to believe.

Her books are good, I was impressed with the way she handled the Jaidyn Leskie story.

 

[Kurve]

Heavy melbourne criminal Geoff Reading

Did Reading have a brother called .. Joey I think it was?

 

[Badge666]

Did Reading have a brother called .. Joey I think it was?

Yes the Reading Brothers.....quiet achievers and very well known players in Melbournes underworld, owners of a successfull demolition business, often see Jill Reading who was a stunning looking woman cruising the backwoods gravel roads in a Jag or Benz full of stripper types and very heavy criminal associates. They threw money around like water, helped out the footy club raced a bush horse or two , and were known and liked by the locals...

 

[Kurve]

Yes the Reading Brothers.....quiet achievers and very well known players in Melbournes underworld

There's a whole other world of quiet achievers flying under the radar, deadlier than those who end up on front pages and doing life.

 

[Badge666]

There's a whole other world of quiet achievers flying under the radar, deadlier than those who end up on front pages and doing life.

Reading was present when Veniamin was shot at La Porcella , and Terry Blewits body was discovered on a block of land Reading leased associated with his demolition company work,
The point is that in 1984 within a 20 minute drive of the Tanner homestead were direct links to some of the heaviest criminals in Victoria .
Also the Bonnie Doon firebug active in the area,
So there are some interesting characters around at that time.
Just saying.

 

[Kurve]

Reading was present when Veniamin was shot at La Porcella

That world is small.

C a nest of some of Melbournes heaviest armed robbers,contract killers, rapists and drug dealers.

Armed robbers and contract killers I get but this was 1984. The Readings were old school, rapists and drug dealers didn't get a look into their circle. Strippers and hookers maybe and if Adele Bailey somehow ended up there I imagine that probably in those times, would not have gone down well if they didn't know she was trans.

I'm not sure why Dennis Tanner would involve himself in a cover up over Jenny's death though and how that's connected. Old school crooks didn't kill women. Not like that and Jenny wasn't involved?

 

[Badge666]

That world is small.



Armed robbers and contract killers I get but this was 1984. The Readings were old school, rapists and drug dealers didn't get a look into their circle. Strippers and hookers maybe and if Adele Bailey somehow ended up there I imagine that probably in those times, would not have gone down well if they didn't know she was trans.

I'm not sure why Dennis Tanner would involve himself in a cover up over Jenny's death though and how that's connected. Old school crooks didn't kill women. Not like that and Jenny wasn't involved?

Yes. agreed but you are getting ahead of where i was heading which is establishing that regardless of what is to come re the Tanner family conflict there were other "interesting" characters in close proximity to the scene which would justify the two uniform police first there to suspect the "suicide" may have been staged and a serious crime had taken place.
Intruders, house break in believing it was empty , burglary turned " hot" , stalking rape /sexual assault, contract killing....these are all possibilities that could rightly come to mind when the police are looking at the initial scene and forming the opinion "something is not right here". Bill Kerr in particular was adamant from the onset that the death was suspicious.

 

[Kurve]

Yes. agreed but you are getting ahead of where i was heading which is establishing that regardless of what is to come re the Tanner family conflict there were other "interesting" characters in close proximity to the scene which would justify the two uniform police first there to suspect the "suicide" may have been staged and a serious crime had taken place.
Intruders, house break in believing it was empty , burglary turned " hot" , stalking rape /sexual assault, contract killing....these are all possibilities that could rightly come to mind when the police are looking at the initial scene and forming the opinion "something is not right here". Bill Kerr in particular was adamant from the onset that the death was suspicious.

Okay, I might need to do some extra reading this has gone a bit wider than I'd thought. Threw me off a bit when you mentioned the Readings, enough to prompt me to ask a couple of casual questions within. I did a google search as well and found an Andrew Rule piece (he has a habit of outing dead people although I do like reading him) where he's suggested Jeff was a high level drug dealer. Not true. Not back then anyway. Nor was Joey involved.

Funny story about Jill for later, she was the lateral thinker and driver of some very clever scams. Not Jeff.

What reading would you suggest Badge?

 

[Badge666]

Okay, I might need to do some extra reading this has gone a bit wider than I'd thought. Threw me off a bit when you mentioned the Readings, enough to prompt me to ask a couple of casual questions within. I did a google search as well and found an Andrew Rule piece (he has a habit of outing dead people although I do like reading him) where he's suggested Jeff was a high level drug dealer. Not true. Not back then anyway. Nor was Joey involved.

Funny story about Jill for later, she was the lateral thinker and driver of some very clever scams. Not Jeff.

What reading would you suggest Badge?

The Robin Bowlles book is excellent and to a lesser extent "Blackened Tanner" is good for a contrary view of it all- Old Buffalo irwin must have had his tongue firmly in his cheek and been repaying a few favours to " Lard " who literally knows where all the bodies are buried In NE Victoria when he wrote it.
Never had a problem with the Readings,not suggesting they were involved just saying there were some heavy crims around. The readings were extremely well liked in the local community, few funny stories and it is interesting that years later Mokbel, Elias and others surfaced in Sleepy old Bonnie Doon.

 

[Kurve]

Never had a problem with the Readings,not suggesting they were involved just saying there were some heavy crims around. The readings were extremely well liked in the local community, few funny stories and it is interesting that years later Mokbel, Elias and others surfaced in Sleepy old Bonnie Doon.

Its all coming back

Fascinating little town Bonnie Doon, I wonder what it is that attracted them.

 

[Kurve]

Never had a problem with the Readings,not suggesting they were involved just saying there were some heavy crims around.

Yer yer now I remember. Dennis Smith and Fat Albert were connected there as well so yes, there were some pretty heavy ones kicking about. Something rattling around in this head .. hunting parties?

 

[Badge666]

Yer yer now I remember. Dennis Smith and Fat Albert were connected there as well so yes, there were some pretty heavy ones kicking about. Something rattling around in this head .. hunting parties?

The trip to Moree NSW where the brothers were arrested with guns and cash discovered in a false fuel tank.? Phill Dunn and Andrew Fraser were flown up by Learjet to Moree and got them off. The 1990 " king hit " death of a patron of a Carlton Pub after he bumped into Geoff reading at the bar....Lewis Moran allegedly stumped up 50K to broker manslaughter charges being no billed...Dennis Tanner was booted from the Drug Squad suspected of leaking information to the Carlton Crew.....favours.?

 

[Kurve]

The trip to Moree NSW where the brothers were arrested with guns and cash discovered in a false fuel tank.? Phill Dunn and Andrew Fraser were flown up by Learjet to Moree and got them off.

I know what they were doing in Moree. They'd head up that way on hunting parties, hire pro shooters and choppers to hang out of which became a bit of a lark and spot, shoot, herd feral goats for slaughter. That was actually legit even if it involved some rough types or hard men.

They had to have cash to pay everyone for that, including transport. You wouldn't want to keep that in a bag on the back seat. imo.

^^ The two fatties paid a load of money to hang out of one of the choppers and blast anything that moved.

Andrew Rule telling half stories about dead men again. He could get over here and explain himself.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/o...k=09937961c4f144701f84e5d00006f8a4-1530416441

 

[Kurve]

Dennis Tanner was booted from the Drug Squad suspected of leaking information to the Carlton Crew.....favours.?

Lot going on. I don't know, its a bit surprising for such a great mystery with so many 'players' I can't find where anybody's done a podcast on it.

It's not going to go away.