Current Trial The Delphi Teen Murders - Video of killer found in Libby's phone * TRIAL

[FTY1]

The Chris Dawson conviction was very flimsy and should (and probably will be) overturned on appeal. This case is much stronger in evidencd though i reckon.

If you read the decision in the Chris Dawson case, outcomes were based on multiple pieces of evidence. The phone call to the kiosk as an example had several witnesses that were used in conjunction to prove that if there was a phone call based on the evidence of the girl from the kiosk that said she got an STD call for either Paul or Chris in January 1982. The combined circumstances proved that the phone call did not happen that day. That was just one example. What you hear in the media is a very condensed summary of what the evidence is.

I would like to hear all the evidence in this case. I think we are just getting the bare minimum.

 

[shotgun_blues]

Murdered Delphi teens were 'victims of botched kidnapping plot'

Murder suspect Richard Allen, 50, (left) was allegedly part of a child sex ring that planned to kidnap murdered teens Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, in Delphi, Indiana, in 2017.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Murdered Delphi teens were 'victims of botched kidnapping plot'

Murder suspect Richard Allen, 50, (left) was allegedly part of a child sex ring that planned to kidnap murdered teens Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, in Delphi, Indiana, in 2017.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Pretty much how I thought it was playing out when I posted last month, Kline and Allen pedo friends with Kline ratting him out to reduce his own charges

Have heard theories that Kegan Kline snitched on Allen to get some child pr0n charges dropped against him and I reckon that is spot on. Cops raided Allen's home looking for specific things (reckon the missing clothing of one of the girls specifically , a souvenir ), lot of focus on the backyard and firepit too. A couple of days later some of Kline's charges were dropped. It all adds up. Reckon they were both sicko's , sharing child pr0n etc and both had access to the instagram account that had the girls going to meet a fake person.

Just let the prisoners finish off both these sicks *s, no trial necessary.

 

[Awakening]

Well looks like they’ve got the bastard alright.

 

[Awakening]

Wait. Has this all been confirmed as fact or is this DM just speculating?

 

[Awakening]

Murder Sheet podcast are saying they have been unable to verify the DM story.

 

[Kurve]

Wait. Has this all been confirmed as fact or is this DM just speculating?

Thinking the same thing. I'd heard some of what was in the article before for example, the police dug one of Allen's animals up out of his yard to match hair that was found with the girls.

Dunno ....

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

The cat hair bit is new to me, I knew they were digging up his yard but a confirmed match makes its a certainty when paired with the bullet . Seems to me they have someone on the inside, written like its fact rather than speculation.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

The heading with "cops believe" in it comes across as inside source.

 

[Awakening]

There’s some speculation online that DM’s “source” is someone who has pooled together all the Reddit theories.

 

[Awakening]

The heading with "cops believe" in it comes across as inside source.

Yeah it does. I kind of hope it’s true because then I reckon RA is a goner.

 

[kaiserchief13]

So if i understand correctly the search warrant only came about because Kline started talking?

 

[FTY1]

So early Saturday morning 2am AEDST or 11pm WST (10am Friday Delphi time) Richard Allen will appear in court to determine if the gag orders for discussing the case will continue and whether the defence's motion to move the trial will be accepted. There are 29 other points to be discussed expected to last the full day. I guess we will have news of most of this when we wake up Saturday morning.

Delphi murders case trial to stay in Carroll County; judge gives legal teams 1 week to agree on county to select jury

Judge Frances Gull said that it would be "difficult if not impossible" to find a jury in Carroll County. Both the prosecution and defense agreed.

www.wthr.com

Judge to hear arguments this week on multiple issues in Delphi murder case involving Richard Allen

DELPHI, Ind. – A special judge will handle multiple issues this week regarding the Delphi murder case. A hearing is set for Friday, Jan. 13. Judge Fran Gull was initially set to hear arguments on a…

fox59.com

 

[Percel]

Extraordinary read, been at it since 5 bells. Thank you all

 

[FTY1]

The outcome of Richard Allen's day in court is that the gag order is still in place and the current location will remain but the jury will be sequestered from another county. Which county it will be the defence and the prosecution have a week to agree on.

Delphi murders case trial to stay in Carroll County; judge gives legal teams 1 week to agree on county to select jury

Judge Frances Gull said that it would be "difficult if not impossible" to find a jury in Carroll County. Both the prosecution and defense agreed.

www.wthr.com

The defense also had a hearing Friday on getting money to pay for investigators. They are waiting on the judge's ruling.

Allen's attorneys also want lots of information and evidence that prosecutors are preparing for their case.

There are 29 different requests, including names and addresses of witnesses — anyone who police questioned in the February 2017 murders. Plus, they're asking for phone calls, photos, documents or video tapes the prosecution might use and police personnel files and cell phone tower data.

Allen's attorneys were also asked about how their client is handling everything.

"He misses his wife. He misses human connection with people. So, it's been difficult for him," Baldwin said.

Allen's attorneys said they are confident they can win his bond hearing on Feb. 17.

 

[Terrafirma]

Murder Sheet podcast are saying they have been unable to verify the DM story.

The DM contacted the county sheriff's office for comment and they refused to confirm or deny the story. Obviously it's not in the Probable Cause Document. The way it's written certainly sounds like it's true information that's been leaked?

 

[Kurve]

A motion to move Allen was granted after his attorneys expressed concern about his deteriorating physical and mental health. Looks like he's lost a lot of weight.

Mystery surrounds Delphi Snapchat murder update after shock pictures of suspect

THE public has been trying to guess which jail the alleged murderer of two Delphi teen girls will be moved to after shocking photos of Richard Allen in custody were released. An Indiana judge grant…

www.the-sun.com

 

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Doesn’t look well

 

[Kurve]

Doesn’t look well

I can't tell if he might be faking it, looks more genuine than the East Area Rapist Joseph DeAngelo who looked like a frail old man when he appeared in court. Apparently he was caught doing jumping jacks and climbing up and down all over his cell exercising.

 

[Awakening]

I can't tell if he might be faking it, looks more genuine than the East Area Rapist Joseph DeAngelo who looked like a frail old man when he appeared in court. Apparently he was caught doing jumping jacks and climbing up and down all over his cell exercising.

True. He could be faking it for sympathy. He’s lost a lot of a weight but even I might lose weight if my only option was prison food. Especially if his food is being messed with.

 

[josephine666]

He is no longer drinking a lot of beer. weight loss would be expected. Both prosecution and defense have confirmed he has made multiple incriminating statements to multiple people regarding the murders. The defense is stating this all should be disregarded due to his deteriorating mental state but I suspect he has given up any pretense of innocence with the (I hope) overwhelming evidence he is being presented with in the discovery. The warden has stated he is communicative for the most part but seems to deteriorate mentally whenever he receives documents from his legal team.

I am curious (or maybe just cynical) and wonder if RA wants to plea but the defense team want to drag this out for as long as possible. The gag order hasn't really provided them with much exposure.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Richard Allen admitted to his wife on April 3rd, 2023 that he did in fact murder Abby Williams (13) and Libby German (14) on February 13th, 2017. The admissions were made via recorded calls in jail. He allegedly made this admission multiple times during the call. His wife hung up on him after the confession. Hundreds of pages of sealed filings in Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen's case were published online today. 19 filings still remain sealed. The filings from both the state and defense attorneys were sealed to "comply with the Court Order dated December 2, 2022, which prohibits public comment, commonly referred to as the 'Gag Order.'" Special Judge Frances Gull wrote in her Wednesday order. The judge wrote, "Counsel agree with the Court that the public interest is best served by transparency, but that certain pleadings should remain sealed," Gull wrote in her Wednesday order. There is still so much interesting speculation on why Allen confessed and if he confessed because there are more people involved. In the filings, it's revealed that items belonging to the girls were taken from the crime scene including a pair of underwear and a sock.

The documents can be viewed here: https://allensuperiorcourt.us/delphi/

 

[Kurve]

His defense is claiming any admissions he may have made are unreliable due to mental health issues. They must want to continue with a 'not guilty' defense.

"Soon after" that call with his wife, Allen's attorneys filed an emergency motion saying his mental state had declined and he should be moved, alleging Westville Correctional Facility was unfit, the document said.

Allen was refusing to eat, refusing to sleep and "was wetting down paperwork he had gotten from his attorneys and eating it," the document said.

Allen broke the tablet he used for phone calls, the document said, and went from making two phone calls a day to making no calls.

Defense attorneys did not immediately respond to ABC News' request for comment on Wednesday. But at a June 15 court hearing, defense attorneys said any confessions made by Allen are unreliable due to his deteriorating mental and physical health.

Delphi double murder suspect allegedly confessed several times in jail call with wife: Court documents

Delphi, Indiana, double murder suspect Richard Allen allegedly confessed to the killings several times.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Awakening]

His defense is claiming any admissions he may have made are unreliable due to mental health issues. They must want to continue with a 'not guilty' defense.

"Soon after" that call with his wife, Allen's attorneys filed an emergency motion saying his mental state had declined and he should be moved, alleging Westville Correctional Facility was unfit, the document said.

Allen was refusing to eat, refusing to sleep and "was wetting down paperwork he had gotten from his attorneys and eating it," the document said.

Allen broke the tablet he used for phone calls, the document said, and went from making two phone calls a day to making no calls.

Defense attorneys did not immediately respond to ABC News' request for comment on Wednesday. But at a June 15 court hearing, defense attorneys said any confessions made by Allen are unreliable due to his deteriorating mental and physical health.

Delphi double murder suspect allegedly confessed several times in jail call with wife: Court documents

Delphi, Indiana, double murder suspect Richard Allen allegedly confessed to the killings several times.

abcnews.go.com

I can understand that a person under duress might make a false confession to law enforcement but I don’t understand how a person of their own volition would make a false confession to his wife.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Feel for his wife and kids. Jesus Christ that would be so tough to deal with.