Review The Good, Bad and Ugly vs. Hawthorn Hawks

[Mutineer]

Did he get drafted in the end or overlooked?

Surely at some point we have to bring in a ruck to either develop and replace ROB or another player looking for an opportunity and can at least challenge him for his spot.

Clearly the club has no real interest in Strachan playing firsts and is only seen as the SANFL ruckman, so it’s mind boggling that we haven’t looked at any other options.

Pick 47 to the Western Bulldogs. I likened his gamestyle ta bit similar to Shane Mumford with decent skills, also another that had really only focused on his AFL in his draft year after concentrating on basketball previously.

2023 AFL Draft: Pick 47 – Lachlan Smith

The Western Bulldogs have used their fourth selection to pick Lachlan Smith at Pick 47 in the 2023 AFL National Draft.

www.westernbulldogs.com.au

 

[George Kramer]

If you haven’t listened and you’re up for depressing listening, listen to the after match callers on 5AA. All made sense and Rowey, Will and Campo dissecting it very well.

Campo and Rowey gone to town on us pushing a forward up the ground, being outnumbered up forward and continually being killed by intercept defenders.

Campo, tell the midfield you’re not going to protect them by giving them an extra man.

Rowey, is that player doing much anyway to compensate for the cost?

WaynesWorld19 reckon we had this discussion in 2022 didn’t we? Your clueless coach still hasn’t got it.

 

[1990crow]

If you haven’t listened and you’re up for depressing listening, listen to the after match callers on 5AA. All made sense and Rowey, Will and Campo dissecting it very well.

Campo and Rowey gone to town on us pushing a forward up the ground, being outnumbered up forward and continually being killed by intercept defenders.

Campo, tell the midfield you’re not going to protect them by giving them an extra man.

Rowey, is that player doing much anyway to compensate for the cost?

WaynesWorld19 reckon we had this discussion in 2022 didn’t we? Your clueless coach still hasn’t got it.

I listened live. They didn't go hard enough at Nicks

 

[George Kramer]

I listened live. They didn't go hard enough at Nicks

Agreed, but the issues they summed up.

 

[kirky]

wow we were smashed in the clearances today and lost contested possession.

The more I am reading, this is turning into a Nicks special, complete with a mini comeback after the game was out of reach.

Wonder how many people didnt see the game, saw 27 points and think, not to bad, 4 goals.

But the reality was so much worse.

Another one at the G and mightily pissed off.

From the first bounce we weren’t interested.

Absolutely disgraceful and this is on Nicks. His inability to get us up with sides around the same position. Yes, we can smash the Eagles (at home) and Roos (home and away), we seem to be very competitive against those in the top 6 or so but god forbid the sides from say 7 to 12 we are absolutely clueless. Remember last year sides that finished 7-12 we didn’t win a game, not one.

And ffs get rid of Murphy, he had no idea and him pointing to other players to get position. Just **** off and make sure your opponent doesn’t get it so easily.

Then went to the casino later - yeh that topped the day off well

 

[Captain Furious]

Soligo, MM and Worrell aren't air.

MM wasn’t drafted by Ogilvy, he fell in our lap and luckily too given his dad started playing for Norwood 50 years ago.

Worrell is a rare pass in a decade of top 30 misses.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

If you haven’t listened and you’re up for depressing listening, listen to the after match callers on 5AA. All made sense and Rowey, Will and Campo dissecting it very well.

Campo and Rowey gone to town on us pushing a forward up the ground, being outnumbered up forward and continually being killed by intercept defenders.

Campo, tell the midfield you’re not going to protect them by giving them an extra man.

Rowey, is that player doing much anyway to compensate for the cost?

WaynesWorld19 reckon we had this discussion in 2022 didn’t we? Your clueless coach still hasn’t got it.

Yep, that's what was happening .....not enough fingers to plug the dyke

It starts and finishes in that midfield ....a midfield who people are still applauding Crouch's possession extravaganza ....but despite all his possessions, and Soligo's great game ....we were slaughtered in the midfield

We are too slow in the midfield & not damaging with ball in hand ......it's Capt Obvious
Excused are the injured Dawson, and Soligo

 

[1990crow]

Yep, that's what was happening .....not enough fingers to plug the dyke

It starts and finishes in that midfield ....a midfield who people are still applauding Crouch's possession extravaganza ....but despite all his possessions, and Soligo's great game ....we were slaughtered in the midfield

We are too slow in the midfield & not damaging with ball in hand ......it's Capt Obvious
Excused are the injured Dawson, and Soligo

Who picks the team?

 

[ABAB]

Yep, that's what was happening .....not enough fingers to plug the dyke

It starts and finishes in that midfield ....a midfield who people are still applauding Crouch's possession extravaganza ....but despite all his possessions, and Soligo's great game ....we were slaughtered in the midfield

We are too slow in the midfield & not damaging with ball in hand ......it's Capt Obvious
Excused are the injured Dawson, and Soligo

We did go down by 5 goals at the start of the game with that shit game plan Nicks has been trying to play all year that even Riewoldt noticed was shit so......

 

[1990crow]

Agreed, but the issues they summed up.

Campo didn't go hard enough at the senior player clique

 

[WaynesWorld19]

We did go down by 5 goals at the start of the game with that shit game plan Nicks has been trying to play all year that even Riewoldt noticed was shit so......

Riewoldt, capt of a perennial cellar dwellar .....can't comment on any teams gameplan

In fact, of late he's been quite off the planet with some of his commentary

The gameplan was alright the last 4 games ....but if players don't come to play, any gameplan falls down

 

[1990crow]

Riewoldt, capt of a perennial cellar dwellar .....can't comment on any teams gameplan

In fact, of late he's been quite off the planet with some of his commentary

The gameplan was alright the last 4 games ....but if players don't come to play, any gameplan falls down

They played in back to back grand finals. More than our club can brag about since 98.

 

[ABAB]

Riewoldt, capt of a perennial cellar dwellar .....can't comment on any teams gameplan

In fact, of late he's been quite off the planet with some of his commentary

The gameplan was alright the last 4 games ....but if players don't come to play, any gameplan falls down

That was my point, it was so obvious that even he noticed how shit it was.

 

[jackster83]

What was with Hawthorn celebrating like they had won the GF?

Was seriously OTT.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Kane had a crack at us on his Volkaneo segment for giving Gunston a guard of honour after a pathetic performance, also saying Nicks was "too nice".

Nothing he said was wrong either.

 

[ABAB]

Kane had a crack at us on his Volkaneo segment for giving Gunston a guard of honour after a pathetic performance, also saying Nicks was "too nice".

Nothing he said was wrong either.

Nicks or the senior players wanted to do this? We know Nicks doesn't go against the senior players.......

 

[FullyBigKPro]

MM wasn’t drafted by Ogilvy, he fell in our lap and luckily too given his dad started playing for Norwood 50 years ago.

Worrell is a rare pass in a decade of top 30 misses.

Go back a few pages and look at the first round draft picks we have squandered since 2015.

Ogilvy and his team of dunces need to be sacked ASAP. Don't care if they are 'good blokes' or selected 1 half decent player in a decade (even a broken clock is right twice a day). The most important part of their job is to recruit future gun players so you can actually contend with other good teams and god forbid, make finals and even possibly win one. They have failed on this.

Our drafting has been an abysmal joke for years.... Anyone who tries to rationalise otherwise is delusional.

 

[Mutineer]

Go back a few pages and look at the first round draft picks we have squandered since 2015.

Ogilvy and his team of dunces need to be sacked ASAP. Don't care if they are 'good blokes' or selected 1 half decent player in a decade (even a broken clock is right twice a day). The most important part of their job is to recruit future gun players so you can actually contend with other good teams and god forbid, make finals and even possibly win one. They have failed on this.

Our drafting has been an abysmal joke for years.... Anyone who tries to rationalise otherwise is delusional.

And our development of young draftees has been stupendously good during that period yeah sure.

 

[George Kramer]

Yep, that's what was happening .....not enough fingers to plug the dyke

It starts and finishes in that midfield ....a midfield who people are still applauding Crouch's possession extravaganza ....but despite all his possessions, and Soligo's great game ....we were slaughtered in the midfield

We are too slow in the midfield & not damaging with ball in hand ......it's Capt Obvious
Excused are the injured Dawson, and Soligo

Umm, we’ve been doing this since 2022, even when the midfield is on top. It’s Nicks being overly cautious, you said it was Nicks teaching the team defence, I said it was protecting them and teaching the team nothing.

Seems I was right.

 

[CrowBloke]

Handballing to ROB when he's sitting on the turf is peak AFC.

I missed that, but am not surprised; when did it happen, please?

O'Brien had 3 kicks yesterday.
2 in a row were awful miskicks, but the second shanked to a teammate, miraculously.
We have a lead ruckman who cannot kick (especially a set shot for goal), is averaging less than 2 marks/game and rarely taps down the throats of our mids.
As useless as the Head Coach who picks him week after week.

 

[BigBoSS_Riot]

I missed that, but am not surprised; when did it happen, please?

It was in the last 3 or 4 minutes.

 

[Anzacpaul]

Kane had a crack at us on his Volkaneo segment for giving Gunston a guard of honour after a pathetic performance, also saying Nicks was "too nice".

Nothing he said was wrong either.

If we hadn't he would've teed off saying we didn't even have the respect to stay on the ground for a milestone and we're petty for hanging on to something that happened 15 years ago.

You literally can't win with these gutter "journalists".

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

If you haven’t listened and you’re up for depressing listening, listen to the after match callers on 5AA. All made sense and Rowey, Will and Campo dissecting it very well.

Campo and Rowey gone to town on us pushing a forward up the ground, being outnumbered up forward and continually being killed by intercept defenders.

Campo, tell the midfield you’re not going to protect them by giving them an extra man.

Rowey, is that player doing much anyway to compensate for the cost?

How about that 3rd quarter of Murphy though?



"Defensive indifference" would be the term used in American sport

 

[CrowBloke]

Hands up all those that got fooled by the rogering of the hapless Eagles on our home deck last week

<== yep, had me fooled for a week in spite of previous multiple disappointments.

Then 7.5 to 2.6, kicked 2 points in a quarter of footy in good conditions against the team that was 14th.
Disgraceful.

 

[CrowBloke]

Appalling effort. No pressure at all. Deserve what we get when we put in “performances” like that. Dawson wasn’t fit and shouldn’t have played. You bring emergencies FOR THAT REASON! Tex should have been rested this week. Again, we are hamstrung before we even hit the ground.

I love what Nicks did to right our ship over the last few years but I’m afraid now his ballast is weighing us down. It’s time to cut him loose.

Finally got you as well, huh? Can't say I'm happy to see that. 2024 is another wasted season.

Do I still have to wait for the bye before I can advocate again for Nicks' sacking?