The graveyard thread for endless off topic posturing on persons causing bi-polar responses

[bomberclifford]

How about Roughead, Poppy & Breust getting stuck into Chad.

They're a happy team at Haaaaw Thorn.

 

[JimmyBC]

I reckon Chad could save a baby from a burning building and he'd have done it the wrong way or something according to this board.
fInD mE vIdEo Of A rEsPeCtABlE pLaYeR eH

 

[Enviable Tradition]

i’d take clutch wingod back every day of the week

Did you see him pull out of the clutch marking contest when the game was on the line?

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[Astronema]

Did you see him pull out of the clutch marking contest when the game was on the line?

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No i don’t really watch non port games, but sometimes players are allowed to pull out of contests so that wouldn’t erase him as an option for me. I doubt he will ever return anyway. I just like to dream..

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Chad still producing when Port need him

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Well we were told at the time that trading Chad Wingard would help win us a premiership.

Still waiting.

Out list management team gave us exactly what we needed to win a flag. Its the coaches box that have let us down.

 

[TeeKray]

Out list management team gave us exactly what we needed to win a flag. Its the coaches box that have let us down.

It wasn't the list management team that boned Wingard.

 

[bomberclifford]

It wasn't the list management team that boned Wingard.

Who do you think it was?

 

[TeeKray]

Who do you think it was?

Coaching staff and administrators.

 

[bomberclifford]

Coaching staff and administrators.

I would have thought list managers would have had more say than administrators.
Particularly when they had some big targets in the draft.

Trading Wingard on our terms was one of the shrewdest plays we've made as a club in a long time.

 

[Malibu#27]

Coaching staff and administrators.

Let me guess. They had to trade him out before Schoefield came in because they were scarede Schoey could turn him into a star ?

 

[Powerade 08]

Trading Wingard on our terms was one of the shrewdest plays we've made as a club in a long time.

Between rounds 5-9, Wingard scored more Best and Fairest votes than Tom Mitchell and Blake Hardwick. So youre wrong.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Wingard was a petulant disinterested little shit who didn't chase and bitched to the umpires nonstop. Though quite a few of our players are still disinterested, he was the worst of them. I fully support them moving him. There are things the club has royally ****ed, but that trade was not one. Not even Clarkson has got the best out of Chad.

I'd have him back for the lols if anything, though.

 

[240volt]

Well we were told at the time that trading Chad Wingard would help win us a premiership.

Still waiting.

Was never going to win Jack with him.
We did the right thing like Hawthorn are now

 

[TeeKray]

Was never going to win Jack with him.

I mean yeah, I don't believe we're winning anything with or without him. So it's a bit of a moot point from that perspective.

 

[240volt]

Between rounds 5-9, Wingard scored more Best and Fairest votes than Tom Mitchell and Blake Hardwick. So youre wrong.

Your forgetting between round 10-12 He scored more votes in the Channel 7 player of the year award since Ronald Dale Barassi.

 

[Us against the rest]

I would have thought list managers would have had more say than administrators.
Particularly when they had some big targets in the draft.

Trading Wingard on our terms was one of the shrewdest plays we've made as a club in a long time.

Very true and we can get him back cheap, 2 years up forward to kick some goals after Gray is gone.

It's not like Williams is bashing the door down.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I would have thought list managers would have had more say than administrators.
Particularly when they had some big targets in the draft.

Trading Wingard on our terms was one of the shrewdest plays we've made as a club in a long time.

Trading him on our terms sounds like we were in control, but it included scapegoating the living hell out of him and tanking his trade value.

Even if it's ended up being a fairly good trade because Wingard hasn't taken off, going from AA in 2015 and leading goalkicker in 2016 to being publicly pushed out of the club was very much down to our mismanagement of him as a player and person. Wingard would have been worth 2x top 10 picks in 2016. In 2018 we're trading him for relative peanuts.

The administration and coaching fell over themselves to blame him as a player for having plateaued, and as usual with this club, no key decision maker was held accountable in any way whatsoever for Wingard going from arguably the most valuable player in the league in 2015 to being traded for pick 15 and a talented half back flanker.

 

[Us against the rest]

Was never going to win Jack with him.
We did the right thing like Hawthorn are now

I sort of agree with you but if we still think the window is still ajar, he could be just what we need as a specialist forward only, 2 goals a game in a side that struggled to kick 10 this year would be a bonus.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Shitting on Wingard as supporters because the Hawks have necessarily gone for a full rebuild is dumb. We didn't properly address why he didn't kick on and remain as one of the best players in the league and we still don't address things like that now as a club.

The reason Wingard stagnated and the reason got our arses handed to us in a home prelim are actually the same thing. As soon as the club recognises this we might be good again one day.

 

[Us against the rest]

Wingard was a petulant disinterested little sh*t who didn't chase and bitched to the umpires nonstop. Though quite a few of our players are still disinterested, he was the worst of them. I fully support them moving him. There are things the club has royally f’ed, but that trade was not one. Not even Clarkson has got the best out of Chad.

I'd have him back for the lols if anything, though.

Pick him up to play forward and kick goals only, Gray is done.

 

[JimmyBC]

Shitting on Wingard as supporters because the Hawks have necessarily gone for a full rebuild is dumb. We didn't properly address why he didn't kick on and remain as one of the best players in the league and we still don't address things like that now as a club.

The reason Wingard stagnated and the reason got our arses handed to us in a home prelim are actually the same thing. As soon as the club recognises this we might be good again one day.

As soon as someone is out the door the exaggerated crap starts, the reality is most players at Port plateau or worse under this regime.

 

[Us against the rest]

I suppose it's an easy call now but if Chad made us eat humble pie we would all be saying **** Port.

Besides all that I didn't see Burton, Duursma or Rozee tearing it up in the prelim either.

 

[afl2004]

So sick of the wingard shit , will be 4 years by next Jan, move on

 

[Us against the rest]

So sick of the wingard sh*t , will be 4 years by next Jan, move on

The Wingard shit is being talked about because he can be gotten for a lot less than we got for him.

I would be in favour of bringing him back if the club felt we are still in a premiership window, if not we need to be looking at players that will be playing their best footy in 2024 - 2025.

Mind you the club thought we were top 4 material way back when KT was here.