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The whole concept of sign stealing was bizarre to me. Fancy a sport having a rule that you're not allowed to scout a team at other games to work out how to beat them. You can only watch videos. Deciphering another team's hand gestures (signs) seemed like a proper competitive action to me. I saw this as just an example of how weird Americans are sometimes.

Sign stealing is not illegal but having someone scouting a previous game of an opponent and using recording equipment to record signs.

A big part of that being introduced is that big colleges like Michigan have enormous annual budgets far greater than many teams in their own conference to offers an unfair advantage as they can use expensive equipment to record.

NFL had a big case years ago when Patriots recorded opposition coaches ..which you can do from approved places but Pats were recording from unapproved sidelines.

To me it’s a shit act and pissweak trying to steal signs. Still most teams should be able to counter it by changing their signs around
 

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Sign stealing is not illegal but having someone scouting a previous game of an opponent and using recording equipment to record signs.

A big part of that being introduced is that big colleges like Michigan have enormous annual budgets far greater than many teams in their own conference to offers an unfair advantage as they can use expensive equipment to record.

NFL had a big case years ago when Patriots recorded opposition coaches ..which you can do from approved places but Pats were recording from unapproved sidelines.

To me it’s a shit act and pissweak trying to steal signs. Still most teams should be able to counter it by changing their signs around
I don't follow American Football, and I have to admit that after I watched the first five minutes of that doco, I had to google to find out what sign stealing was and why they were so upset about it. That was my biggest criticism of it as a production. They made it for people who knew about it and gave no real explanation as to what it was and why people thought it was bad for those who don't follow the sport. But they've changed to radio after this so-called scandal, so don't use signs anymore.
 
Binged 6 episodes of Mr McMahon.

Anybody who’s been a wrestling fan at any stage this is definitely worth a watch.
I did 2 tonight and will watch 2 tomorrow

I have seen most of the wrestlemania stuff on YT and know of the bare bones of the scandals etc

Vince - episode 2 ' it was consensual sex not rape and anyway the statute of limitations has passed anyway''

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I did 2 tonight and will watch 2 tomorrow

I have seen most of the wrestlemania stuff on YT and know of the bare bones of the scandals etc

Vince - episode 2 ' it was consensual sex not rape and anyway the statute of limitations has passed anyway''

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Vince is one of the strangest units I've ever heard or read about.

From not believing in sickness to getting angry about sneezing in front of people to pooping on heads. Just a disaster.
 
Vince is one of the strangest units I've ever heard or read about.

From not believing in sickness to getting angry about sneezing in front of people to pooping on heads. Just a disaster.
Yeah episode 1 really explained a lot for me as to who he is

Because nobody knows who he is - there is a lot of complex stuff about the man - which doesnt excuse his behaviours

But when his own son says he presents who he wants you to see depending on the person
 
Untold: Sign Stealer

Documentary about a dude who steals signs and plays from other college football teams and relays the information to the Michigan coach. Smart but also extremely sketchy.

Usually love these. This one was just okay. College footy is ****ing insane over in USA. It's really a different world. Couldn't imagine our country going nuts over VFL footy.

That documentary summed up a lot about America in general.

The way they go about sport and the weirdos that are not good enough to play but will do anything to feel apart of the team. No surprise to hear there was a underground community attached to all it. Tried to get into college sport but there is no morals and always something dodgy going on.
 

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The McMahon series is compelling. It was interesting to hear a bit of behind-the-scenes stuff about the WWE and the WCW. Vince McMahon is a controversial figure, for sure. My interest in pro wrestling probably peaked with the Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant era and then tapered off over the years after that. Given the accusations that came out about McMahon after these interviews were taped, his legacy is going to be a very tarnished one.
 
The McMahon series is compelling. It was interesting to hear a bit of behind-the-scenes stuff about the WWE and the WCW. Vince McMahon is a controversial figure, for sure. My interest in pro wrestling probably peaked with the Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant era and then tapered off over the years after that. Given the accusations that came out about McMahon after these interviews were taped, his legacy is going to be a very tarnished one.
Is it still worth watching even if I hate wrestling?
 
Is it still worth watching even if I hate wrestling?
Did you at least like it as a kid? Having some reference points will help. That said, there is absolutely an interesting story to tell about Vince, from running the previous model out of business to almost going out of business himself in the 90s, there's plenty of popular culture crossover, Cyndi Lauper, Mr T etc, plus the multiple controversies (wrestlers assaulting journos, steroid trials, deaths of wrestlers etc). I reckon if people can watch and enjoy Tiger King, they'll find something interesting in this.
 
Is it still worth watching even if I hate wrestling?
The only time pro wrestling ever took my interest was when the WWF were expanding in the mid 80s so the first episode was interesting from that point of view. I suspect more intoxicant were consumed at the first Wrestlemania than the average Grateful Dead concert at the time.
 
Is it still worth watching even if I hate wrestling?

It's might be interesting for you, but from a journalistic standpoint, it's pretty light on - more style over substance.

They didn't need 6 hours to tell what Vince creepily got across with his own words in the talking heads - that he's a pretty average human being.
 

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