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You're never going to be able to convince me that Wemby shooting 13 threes a night is a good thing. When playing against him I'm happy when he's shooting 3s (even if he's making them).

It is the way of the world these days. Witnessed Cam Payne ignore an open lane with the defender frozen, and instead launch a step back 3.

Posters, I ask you, do you find this entertaining?
 

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It is the way of the world these days. Witnessed Cam Payne ignore an open lane with the defender frozen, and instead launch a step back 3.

Posters, I ask you, do you find this entertaining?

It's not even the entertainment side of things. Wemby is unguardable on the inside. Defenses need to collapse or he'll score. And he's so big he can pass over the top of players for wide open 3s if they do collapse.

If I'm a coach of the other team and he wants to shoot 3s over an outstretched hand. He can go nuts!
 
It's not even the entertainment side of things. Wemby is unguardable on the inside. Defenses need to collapse or he'll score. And he's so big he can pass over the top of players for wide open 3s if they do collapse.

If I'm a coach of the other team and he wants to shoot 3s over an outstretched hand. He can go nuts!

I hope some of it comes down to where his fitness is at currently as he seems gassed a lot of the time.
 
It's not even the entertainment side of things. Wemby is unguardable on the inside. Defenses need to collapse or he'll score. And he's so big he can pass over the top of players for wide open 3s if they do collapse.

If I'm a coach of the other team and he wants to shoot 3s over an outstretched hand. He can go nuts!

It's going to take a while. It's been so long since the league had genuine low post artists than most fans have forgotten how difficult, and how much practice it takes. The only player in the league who does it consistently at present is Jokic, and even he does it facing up rather than back to the basket most of the time.

Honestly, I don't ever expect Wemby to become a classical low post force, but he will have to develop three skills before he scores even semi regularly there. First will be a fadeaway jumper, second will be some kind of counter move to keep the defender guessing, possibly an up and under or a half hook, and finally a lot of practice passing out of a double team. Even at his height it's a skill that takes years to master. Olajuwon and Ewing both took years to cut down their turnovers, and they had highly refined post games.

He's looking at three years development minimum to incorporate all that into his game, and that's if he succeeds.

In the meantime - and with the caveat that I haven't watched much of the Spurs this season - I suspect what they're currently doing is running him in a lot of two-man action. Old fashioned pick and roll and pick and pop. At this stage the defence will still overplay the roll more than the pop, hence so many jump shots. It's what the defence is likely giving him at the moment. It's not necessarily a bad thing, it shows at least that they're putting him in a lot of action, he needs the reps. Could hazard a guess that it's one reason why they signed Chris Paul, pick and roll school.

We went through the same thing with Anthony Davis, who for all intents and purposes was a slightly shorter prototype for Wemby. Both obviously coordinated with good hands and nice shooting touch, but with AD in his early years we couldn't reliably throw him the ball in isolation and expect a bucket. He was too tall to break down his man off the dribble, and too skinny to overpower any hardened bigs. Put him in enough action and he'd end up with an efficient 30, but very few of those would ever come from iso.
 
It's not even the entertainment side of things. Wemby is unguardable on the inside. Defenses need to collapse or he'll score. And he's so big he can pass over the top of players for wide open 3s if they do collapse.

If I'm a coach of the other team and he wants to shoot 3s over an outstretched hand. He can go nuts!

You are thinking too Basketbally. A team with a coach would have him poked and elbowed and hip checked every possession whenever he pushes towards the basket. He's WAY too valuable to risk getting injured bashing around the paint for 82 games. Imagine the 6'8 thick guy on a 2 way deal tasked to stop Wemby from getting to the paint for 2 minutes. He might get than full NBA wage.
 
We went through the same thing with Anthony Davis, who for all intents and purposes was a slightly shorter prototype for Wemby. Both obviously coordinated with good hands and nice shooting touch, but with AD in his early years we couldn't reliably throw him the ball in isolation and expect a bucket. He was too tall to break down his man off the dribble, and too skinny to overpower any hardened bigs. Put him in enough action and he'd end up with an efficient 30, but very few of those would ever come from iso.

I now feel that pain
 
You are thinking too Basketbally. A team with a coach would have him poked and elbowed and hip checked every possession whenever he pushes towards the basket. He's WAY too valuable to risk getting injured bashing around the paint for 82 games. Imagine the 6'8 thick guy on a 2 way deal tasked to stop Wemby from getting to the paint for 2 minutes. He might get than full NBA wage.
You're treating wemby like embiid. Hopefully the era of the pussy centre is on its way out. I like edy

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What the hell are Charlotte doing. Lamelo putting up 30 shots a night is the dumbest pile of crap ive ever seen in basketball

Their third, fourth and fifth best players all out, and it's already a shallow roster.

I actually don't mind their core, but they have a hell of a lot of work to do filling out the rest of the team.
 
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