The Otherworldly Circus - The America Thread

[Mutt]

Play the ball and not the man/women here folks. Thank you.

 

[Next Waiting]

Jesus Harold!
Have you ever actually read any of my posts?
I'm not for Trump. I'm just trying to highlight how broken the system is. Nothing more, nothing less.

I agree with you here. It is a shit system.

Clinton was an arse of an individual. A calculatedly manufactured personality and image that appealed to the Yanks willingness to suspend judgement and lap up the bs.

Trump is worse.

Ultimately the wealth based system that promotes their candidcay and then finally the electorate are at fault for enabling and then electing these pricks....regardless of hue.

A meritocracy it is not.

 

[BrisDog]

Clinton Whataboutism

This is f***ing hilarious

Yeah, Clinton grabbed p**sies too in the late 80’s and 90’s. Shame on him. What a campaigner.

He has not paid off 28 women though. About half as many.

Clinton was/is a campaigner - a brilliant one. He was a great speaker and leader - from the south.

Trump is just a fat campaigner with a psychological disorder.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Given he was president nearly a qtr of a century ago. Bill Clintons inability to keep his penis in his pants is about as relevant as Thomas Jefferson having multiple children with Sally Hemmings who he owned last the time to this thread. If either of these guys were President or in the running to become one then I'd understand the weird tangent that that a discussion that is supposed to be based around current events and political personalities has taken.

With the probable exception of Washington and Lincoln, historically I doubt that you'd find many senior US presidents that didn't have a mistress or engage in various affairs. They're positively French in that regard.

Like rank hypocrisy. Its the privilege of men in power.

None of which absolves Donald Trump from the fact that he is an adjudged rapist. One who is about to begin his second term is office.

We live in the dumbest timeline imaginable.

 

[yebach]

Given he was president nearly a qtr of a century ago. Bill Clintons inability to keep his penis in his pants is about as relevant as Thomas Jefferson having multiple children with Sally Hemmings who he owned last the time to this thread. If either of these guys were President or in the running to become one then I'd understand the weird tangent that that a discussion that is supposed to be based around current events and political personalities has taken.

With the probable exception of Washington and Lincoln, historically I doubt that you'd find many senior US presidents that didn't have a mistress or engage in various affairs. They're positively French in that regard.

Like rank hypocrisy. Its the privilege of men in power.

None of which absolves Donald Trump from the fact that he is an adjudged rapist. One who is about to begin his second term is office.

We live in the dumbest timeline imaginable.

Hi Norm,

The original post wasn't meant to compare apples with apples. Lets keep Trump out of this completely.

My question was why nobody then wasn't outraged with Bill's behaviour?

Another thing I don't get. (There a a few, I know)
Lots of people seem to be outraged with what's happening in Israel/Palestine right now. Again, I'm confused as to why it's an issue for them now, as it's been going on for the better part of 70 years and nobody seemed to care too much.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Hi Norm,

The original post wasn't meant to compare apples with apples. Lets keep Trump out of this completely.

My question was why nobody then wasn't outraged with Bill's behaviour?

But there were. Especially on the right.

He was impeached over his behaviour. Once that proceeding failed people shrugged and got on with their lives.

History may not repeat but it often rhymes.

Another thing I don't get. (There a a few, I know)
Lots of people seem to be outraged with what's happening in Israel/Palestine right now. Again, I'm confused as to why it's an issue for them now, as it's been going on for the better part of 70 years and nobody seemed to care too much.

Because although Isreal's treatment of Palestine has historically been oppressively abhorrent. Isreal has traditionally been cast as a friend of the west and a bulwark of stability in a sea of people with diametrically opposing views in an area of vital strategic and economic importance to the west. So western governments and corporations have and continue to look the other way. Lest the Isreal lobby paint them anti-semitic.

However, what we're seeing had never quite reached the levels of expansionist mask off genocide that we see today.

Even though peoples attention spans are now shorter than an Essendon fans finals hopes. Like happenings in Ukraine, we are no longer lead by the nose to the story by news outlets with their curated agendas and get to see events unfold in real time by people on the ground who bare the brunt of these atrocities. People can choose to continue to look the other way, but its increasingly hard to do so in todays social media environment.

Social media is a pox on society, but sometimes it can be a useful tool at exposing how the machine works.

 

[King Harold]

Given he was president nearly a qtr of a century ago. Bill Clintons inability to keep his penis in his pants is about as relevant as Thomas Jefferson having multiple children with Sally Hemmings who he owned last the time to this thread. If either of these guys were President or in the running to become one then I'd understand the weird tangent that that a discussion that is supposed to be based around current events and political personalities has taken.

With the probable exception of Washington and Lincoln, historically I doubt that you'd find many senior US presidents that didn't have a mistress or engage in various affairs. They're positively French in that regard.

Like rank hypocrisy. Its the privilege of men in power.

None of which absolves Donald Trump from the fact that he is an adjudged rapist. One who is about to begin his second term is office.

We live in the dumbest timeline imaginable.

Let’s forget about sexual assaults and rape for a moment.
Can anyone think of a previous President that has run fake charities or ripped of students with fake universities ?

But there were. Especially on the right.

He was impeached over his behaviour. Once that proceeding failed people shrugged and got on with their lives.

History may not repeat but it often rhymes.



Because although Isreal's treatment of Palestine has historically been oppressively abhorrent. Isreal has traditionally been cast as a friend of the west and a bulwark of stability in a sea of people with diametrically opposing views in an area of vital strategic and economic importance to the west. So western governments and corporations have and continue to look the other way. Lest the Isreal lobby paint them anti-semitic.

However, what we're seeing had never quite reached the levels of expansionist mask off genocide that we see today.

Even though peoples attention spans are now shorter than an Essendon fans finals hopes. Like happenings in Ukraine, we are no longer lead by the nose to the story by news outlets with their curated agendas and get to see events unfold in real time by people on the ground who bare the brunt of these atrocities. People can choose to continue to look the other way, but its increasingly hard to do so in todays social media environment.

Social media is a pox on society, but sometimes it can be a useful tool at exposing how the machine works.

Excellent answer and explanation.

 

[4Seasons]

The victory lap for the criminal rapist fans still in full swing fos
No one I’ve seen on here has denied Trump won the election.

It's over.
Get help.