Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[TiAn_]

What about us?

Don’t have one.

 

[stefoid]

Don’t have one.

oh yeah - there was that whole Sanders thing wasnt there

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Him saying he’s outgrown the Club and that he won’t become the player he wants in our environment is a pretty big whack.

That's the inference you've drawn, not what he said. He said, "But there’s a level of when you outgrow a place, or you just need a fresh change for whatever reason. I still love them, they’re still my mates. I won’t get too deep into it. I feel like I’d be doing myself a disservice for the player I want to become and the person I want to become by staying in the same environment but we’ll see."

'I need a change to get the best out of myself' is the media-trained response for, "Well you obviously can't tell them the real reason so this'll do."

 

[Proffessor]

Though it may not be in our best interests, this is one time I would seriously consider forcing a player into the draft

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I also seriously think we need to play hard ball with this trade, to the point that we could even re-draft him if we have the opportunity, rather than get screwed over with a less than satisfactory trade.

Smith's behaviour has been nothing short of disgraceful, and has effectively been dropping his own trade value, which assists whatever club he goes to rather than the Bulldogs. Great way to pay back the club who gave you your start and made you a star.

As a result, I'd argue that if he continues on his recent fall from grace as his career progresses, there won't be a lot of sympathy coming his way, not just from Bulldog fans but from the football community in general.

I think Bailey should change the people he is taking advice from, because they certainly aren't helping his image.

It would be ironic if Cotton On has to give him the flick due to fears their image could eventually be tarnished by association with someone who behaves like a selfish petulant brat.

 

[Marencis12]

Moves to his new Geelong house a d proceeds to embarrass himself by uploading a video of himself with a hard on

Seeing this video, my wife mentioned that it now Makes sense why he got so annoyed with Channel 7 and the Tim Watson story that was mentioned on SEN breakfast a while back during a preseason. Recovery session on the beach makes you shrink… it’s all about the “brand”

 

[Next Waiting]

Wonder if Geelong are having second thoughts about his character. How could you not? Connors is either advising him poorly (hard to believe - more that he can't control his client) or Smith is showcasing how immature, dumb, and self-centred he is.

Any club interested in him would have to be wondering if he's worth the trouble, and that's even without taking into account questions around his footy vs off field preferences.

At this point I'm annoyed we ignored the warning signs predraft.

And didn't select the stable, talented and Bont idolising Butters instead.

Having screwed up once, we then screwed up again by not getting rid of him last off season.

Third time's the charm. Wheel the Trojan horse down to the gates of Kardinia Park. It makes us stronger and them weaker.

 

[W W Biscuit]

That's the inference you've drawn, not what he said. He said, "But there’s a level of when you outgrow a place, or you just need a fresh change for whatever reason. I still love them, they’re still my mates. I won’t get too deep into it. I feel like I’d be doing myself a disservice for the player I want to become and the person I want to become by staying in the same environment but we’ll see."

'I need a change to get the best out of myself' is the media-trained response for, "Well you obviously can't tell them the real reason so this'll do."

I think that it is a fair inference to draw though. "But there's a level of when you outgrow a place." Not a great inferential leap there.

 

[Next Waiting]

I think that it is a fair inference to draw though. "But there's a level of when you outgrow a place." Not a great inferential leap there.

It's a little ironic I think. The club has more probably outgrown the man-child.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

And didn't select the stable, talented and Bont idolising Butters instead.

Having screwed up once, we then screwed up again by not getting rid of him last off season.

Third time's the charm. Wheel the Trojan horse down to the gates of Kardinia Park. It makes us stronger and them weaker.

Impossible to say he "should have" been gotten rid of before the knee last year. By all accounts he was disappointed with his form dropping off 2nd half of 2023, had gotten himself fitter and who knows how his relationship with the club may have changed if he was winning games for us, on a cheapish contract for this one year.

Irrespective of his responsibility of his relationship with the club and players and the fact that other players have also done their knees, rehab can be a tough and lonely place.

 

[dergert]

When is Baz's dad creating an account here?

 

[Bonty4]

Bloke still clearly loves a sesh

 

[Mofra]

And didn't select the stable, talented and Bont idolising Butters instead.

Having screwed up once, we then screwed up again by not getting rid of him last off season.

Third time's the charm. Wheel the Trojan horse down to the gates of Kardinia Park. It makes us stronger and them weaker.

Nobody pre-draft rated Butters higher than Smith.
IIRC our real debate was B King vs Smith

 

[Mofra]

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Bloke still clearly loves a sesh

Dem pupils ...

 

[Doggy]

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Bloke still clearly loves a sesh

And posts about it

 

[CarnTheScray]

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Bloke still clearly loves a sesh

Never seen a man so awake.

 

[Mofra]

My god, if we're triggered about Baz making a vague, obviously scripted response that doesn't criticise the club in any way, shape or form, this is going to be a rough few months.

He's just confirming what we all know, he's gone.
Whatever he says is pretty irrelevant and it's pretty nuts to get upset by any statement he makes.

 

[Mofra]

Never seen a man so awake.

Must be nice being Baz.
Only 4 sleeps until Christmas!

 

[Next Waiting]

Impossible to say he "should have" been gotten rid of before the knee last year. By all accounts he was disappointed with his form dropping off 2nd half of 2023, had gotten himself fitter and who knows how his relationship with the club may have changed if he was winning games for us, on a cheapish contract for this one year.

Irrespective of his responsibility of his relationship with the club and players and the fact that other players have also done their knees, rehab can be a tough and lonely place.

He wasn't the lone ranger there.

Very possible to say we should've got rid of him before his knee. The line should have been drawn through him after the Collingwood game and a trade actively pursued pre-knee. Just my view of course.

 

[Next Waiting]

Nobody pre-draft rated Butters higher than Smith.
IIRC our real debate was B King vs Smith

I did. I just didn't say so ... and no-one thought to ask me! Things might have been different ...

 

[King Harold]

Nobody pre-draft rated Butters higher than Smith.
IIRC our real debate was B King vs Smith

I think I did .

 

[Next Waiting]

I think I did .

When I saw him he reminded me of Dundeel as a yearling. Bailey Smith reminded me of Aft Cabin.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

I think that it is a fair inference to draw though. "But there's a level of when you outgrow a place." Not a great inferential leap there.

It's a fair inference to draw if the comment is truthful. My point is that it's the same exact comment that everybody is instructed to give when there are stretched relationships.

We all know it's not the real reason, no point reading into it as slamming the club.

 

[goodcop badcop]

Nobody pre-draft rated Butters higher than Smith.
IIRC our real debate was B King vs Smith

I remember there was talk of trading down so we could get Xavier O'Halloran and Butters though. Now we are trying to get both by the sounds of it

 

[St 07]

It's a fair inference to draw if the comment is truthful. My point is that it's the same exact comment that everybody is instructed to give when there are stretched relationships.

We all know it's not the real reason, no point reading into it as slamming the club.

He didn't have to say anything.

 

[coxman]

Can we start a Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

thread to voice our dissatisfaction with the bloke there, I’m sick to death of hearing about him