Banter TRTT Part 14: 2022 Goodbye (To 2023)

[Contested Marx]

Uber drivers are great for cross cultural learnings

Much better than every taxi driver who's racist if white

 

[edgie]

My 4yo just came out with 'look, I found some money, and it's got the queen on it from when before she died'

Wtf

You aren't supposed to know about this stuff

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[Grave Danger]

My 4yo just came out with 'look, I found some money, and it's got the queen on it from when before she died'

Wtf

You aren't supposed to know about this stuff

Sent from my Nokia 7.2 using Tapatalk

I'm surprised how long some bank notes stay in circulation (even tho they're plastic) - some in my wallet have got Bernie Fraser's signature on them, the Reserve Bank Gov about three or four back from Whispering Philip Lowe. He finished up in 1996, before he started doing those "It's the Super. Of the Future" ads in the most monotone of monotones.

 

[afl2004]

Getting 4.50 back on my tax return

 

[Andre]

I was tossing up if to watch season 3 but since Cavill basically denounced it as dross I have not bothered. Looks like a solid decision. I was genuinely trying to work out of that scene was from an 80s or 90s version of it but it looks like Cavill, so really is from season 3! Bloody hell.

I've managed one episode so far. As soon as Season 2 ended with the Ciri is the Emperors daughter reveal (that doesn't happen until near the end of the books), it was obvious this was going to be a shitshow. Then Cavill was happy to go out and the showrunner has come out and basically said they don't like the source material, so we're doing our own thing.

/Old man yells at clouds time. I'm getting tired of showrunners who take successful fantasy books (well books and games with Witcher), then decide, despite the success of those, that somehow they are there, not to adapt to the screen, but rewrite large parts of their history/characters. Rings of Power, Witcher and the absolute shitshow that is The Wheel of Time. If they want to write their own series, where all life has been scrubbed by writing by committee, and all casting is done via HR, to offend no one, then sure, go for it and see how that goes. Of course none of them will, they know deep down they are inferior to those authors, so they'll continue to mess with their works to satisfy their own egos. On a positive note, I'll shout out the new Dune movies for staying (mostly) true, rather than feeling they had to 'reflect society as it is now' or 'explore what it means in the modern world'.

 

[bomberclifford]

the absolute shitshow that is The Wheel of Time.

Throw Foundation into this category. So much unnecessary change to the characters and plot.

 

[Andre]

Throw Foundation into this category. So much unnecessary change to the characters and plot.

I didn't start watching it, after seeing what changes they made. I can only take so much show induced rage stress. Movies have tended to be better at adapting then TV series. I think not having so much screen time to play around with, they are forced to stick closer to the source material, rather than doing their own explorations of the human condition and changing the (fantasy/sci-fi) world to more closely reflect how they want our world to be.

 

[chiwigi]

Called the Khawaja racism the second it happened.
Tories being Tories.

 

[chiwigi]

Throw Foundation into this category. So much unnecessary change to the characters and plot.

I LOVE and I mean LOVE Asimov, I could only watch one episode of that shite and was madly looking forward to it.

 

[Del165198]

Getting 4.50 back on my tax return

Don't spend it all at once. Might be able to grab a couple of Macca's soft serves for that

 

[Del165198]

I'm surprised how long some bank notes stay in circulation (even tho they're plastic) - some in my wallet have got Bernie Fraser's signature on them, the Reserve Bank Gov about three or four back from Whispering Philip Lowe. He finished up in 1996, before he started doing those "It's the Super. Of the Future" ads in the most monotone of monotones.

Aka the Sandman

 

[Doctor Feel]

Lol

 

[chiwigi]

I’ve just returned from the ACTUAL St. Kilda!
The pic is the most exciting part

 

[Sleezy]

Throw Foundation into this category. So much unnecessary change to the characters and plot.

I thoroughly disagree with this. Foundation as a book is meh. It's a collection of short stories about an interesting enough idea, but that's it. No emotional centre to pull me through.

The TV show is great.

It takes the key theme of embracing the chaos to recreate order, and adds an entire parallel plotline in balance: the emperors, who were born to suppress chaos in the name of order.

Watching Brothers Dawn, Day & Dusk try to cling to a dynasty they were born into, that was destined to fail, that they will bring to it's knees through their efforts to save it, was utterly compelling for me.

They've taken the original and built on it, imo.

Caveat: I love slow, beautifully shot sci-fi with philosophical ambitions (ie Bladerunner 2049), so Foundation is right in my sweet spot. Many people disagree.

 

[chiwigi]

I thoroughly disagree with this. Foundation as a book is meh. It's a collection of short stories about an interesting enough idea, but that's it. No emotional centre to pull me through.

The TV show is great.

It takes the key theme of embracing the chaos to recreate order, and adds an entire parallel plotline in balance: the emperors, who were born to suppress chaos in the name of order.

Watching Brothers Dawn, Day & Dusk try to cling to a dynasty they were born into, that was destined to fail, that they will bring to it's knees through their efforts to save it, was utterly compelling for me.

They've taken the original and built on it, imo.

Caveat: I love slow, beautifully shot sci-fi with philosophical ambitions (ie Bladerunner 2049), so Foundation is right in my sweet spot. Many people disagree.

Oi, don’t ****ing start campaigner!



I might have liked it if it didn’t pretend to be Foundation, but it can **** off now.

 

[Sleezy]

Oi, don’t ******* start campaigner!



I might have liked it if it didn’t pretend to be Foundation, but it can * off now.

Yep, can definitely see why people who love foundation would be put off. I don't, so was pleasantly surprised. I almost didn't watch it, because I couldn't figure out how they could make a compelling TV show out of what is essentially a (psycho)history book.

I would recommend persisting with an open mind - to me it is foundation, but following not just the birth of a new civilisation but the collapse of the old one as well. The contrasting plotlines are a great addition.

 

[Sleezy]

Also:
Wheel of Time is weak because the books are weak. They might come into their own later on, but the first few books are just okay. Best thing about them is the Seanchen, and they piss off just as things get interesting.

Rings of Power is awful because they spent a billion dollars on making it look right, and the trade value of Orazio Fantasia

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on the script. About one and a half memorable characters in the whole ****ing thing.

(Why does Sauron/Aragorn-lite need to remind Celebrimbor, the greatest Smith who has ever lived, that alloys exist? Why does Galadriel never figure out that just demanding people do what she says, sans context or explanation, no concession to authority or cultural history, is not the optimal strategy to get what she wants?)

I will admit that only having half the rights, and having to skate around all of the things they didn't pay for, didn't help.

I just watched Silo, which was okay. Probably could have been 8 episodes instead of 10. Episode 3 made me lol. Abundantly clear that not a single person who has even a rudimentary understanding of how a steam turbine works, or steam, or that thermal shock brittle fracture is a thing, came within 100 miles of that script.

 

[chiwigi]

Yep, can definitely see why people who love foundation would be put off. I don't, so was pleasantly surprised. I almost didn't watch it, because I couldn't figure out how they could make a compelling TV show out of what is essentially a (psycho)history book.

I would recommend persisting with an open mind - to me it is foundation, but following not just the birth of a new civilisation but the collapse of the old one as well. The contrasting plotlines are a great addition.

I might give it a go and ignore the title.

 

[Prison bar Pete]

Also:
Wheel of Time is weak because the books are weak. They might come into their own later on, but the first few books are just okay. Best thing about them is the Seanchen, and they piss off just as things get interesting.

Rings of Power is awful because they spent a billion dollars on making it look right, and the trade value of Orazio Fantasia on the script. About one and a half memorable characters in the whole ******* thing.

(Why does Sauron/Aragorn-lite need to remind Celebrimbor, the greatest Smith who has ever lived, that alloys exist? Why does Galadriel never figure out that just demanding people do what she says, sans context or explanation, no concession to authority or cultural history, is not the optimal strategy to get what she wants?)

I will admit that only having half the rights, and having to skate around all of the things they didn't pay for, didn't help.

I just watched Silo, which was okay. Probably could have been 8 episodes instead of 10. Episode 3 made me lol. Abundantly clear that not a single person who has even a rudimentary understanding of how a steam turbine works, or steam, or that thermal shock brittle fracture is a thing, came within 100 miles of that script.

The best thing about Rings of Power has been watching YouTubers like Disparu & The One Ring hoeing into it! It's the only reason to watch season 2 really - there seems to be no will to improve the scriptwriting and change the nonsensical storylines. There are so many aspects they could explore within the confines of the rights they have, but they've opted for a mash-mash of member-berries & modern PC sensibilities that effectively desecrate the source material. As a Tolkien fan this series has failed miserably; at best I'd give it a 4 out of 10 (points for visuals, some character interactions, an interesting proto-orc and music score).

 

[Andre]

Also:
Wheel of Time is weak because the books are weak. They might come into their own later on, but the first few books are just okay. Best thing about them is the Seanchen, and they piss off just as things get interesting.

Shots fired. Books 1-6 and 11-14 are great. They suffered in the middle, due to his editor not putting her foot down. Which was understandable since she was his wife. Wheel of Time is one of the best world building series out there, outside Lord of the Rings. Jordan created not just a story, but a whole world with many different cultures in depth, not just a few broad strokes as background for the story. The main weakness was the unwillingness to kill of any major characters until right at the end.

Prior to seeing what a shit show they've done so far of adapting it I was looking forward to seeing what they did with the battle of Dumai's Wells, but given their lackluster CGI for the Power in season 1, that's not enough to keep me watching the dross. The only plus side of the series, is after years of trying to get my wife to read or listen to the books, after watching a handful of episodes and seeing me rage at it, she said the books can't be that bad. She's now at this point half way through listening to book 8.

 

[PepeSilvia]

What is all this nerd shit?

Am I right fellow jocks?!

 

[davesnothere]

Getting 4.50 back on my tax return [emoji38]

I’d take that [emoji849]

 

[manureid]

 

[Relativity]

 

[Festerz]

I’ve just returned from the ACTUAL St. Kilda!
The pic is the most exciting part

Saw a doco on that place - fascinating story about the villagers and all their cattle being repatriated to the mainland after WW2 once they were unable to continue eating the local birds and eggs and the land was found to be partly contaminated after years of unsustainable agricultural practices.

Sounds like a great place for a holiday mate.