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Opinion INTERNATIONAL Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

Is this the best thread ever and the other poxy international thread should be closed

  • Yes because I’m a winner

    Votes: 9 90.0%

  • No because I’m a loser

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Total voters
    10

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OneGreatClub said:
He is President for MAGA morons only and those who kiss his feet and bribe him it seems.


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An absolute disgrace. He is one of the most disgusting individuals. I read his book 15 years ago - 'Art of the Deal'. So much vitriol and complaining even back then. If anyone ever does anything wrong by you you get them back TWICE as hard type bullshit.

No empathy for Californian residents and the fact he is calling the Governor 'Newscum' just shows what an absolute low life piece of shit he really is. Using this derogatory name has since been picked up by one of the Trump sheep here on this thread. Not too hard to work out who but someone that doesnt have many original thoughts of their own
 

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Slippery Pete said:
Oh FFS. Did the average, healthy person have access to, or even know, that anti-virals were available during the period they were being forced to take Pfizer’s poison jab to keep their jobs and get a f*cking haircut?

I must have missed all those public health messages that said “Don’t stress, if you get Covid you can just take these antivirals. No need to lose your job, your livelihood and be banned from footy games and travel over a vaccine!”

It was only after they’d forced the heart-attack jabs on everyone, as 1970crow correctly pointed out, that it was back to telling them that the vast majority of people could treat Covid at home with Panadol and Gatorade!

Which was never NOT the case, given that we knew the virus had a median death age of 83 with three co-morbidities in March 2020.
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Slippery Pete said:
You’re gonna use Remdesivir as a point in favour of your argument, really? You are making my argument for me.

Remdesivir was a state-sponsored Covid “treatment” that made squillions for the manufacturer, which even the WHO said didn’t work (!) and was only available to a select group of people who were practically on their death bed (and judging from a lot of reports, finished them off).

In the context of this argument about people being coerced into taking the jabs, attempting to claim those drugs were a viable alternative to that is the f*cking height of dishonesty. Those drugs, quite intentionally and quite obviously, had absolutely less than zero impact on the vaccine rollout and the government’s desperation to get as many jabs into people as possible.
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In the interests of sticking to the point and not following you in derailing the conversation, the question you asked was when we started trying to treat COVID with antivirals and steroids.
  • Governments were not, as you suggested, withholding these from people until after the vaccine rollout (a lie).
  • In reality, from day dot doctors around the world were trialling a range of different treatment options in an attempt to find something that would work.
  • Naturally as time passed and the evidence-base grew our understanding of what treatments should be prescribed and when for maximum benefit improved.
  • To this day based on assessments of the benefits and risks, antivirals and steroids are still only recommended to treat people at highest risk of severe illness. They're not offered to 'your average, healthy person'. That's not a conspiracy. And you can piss your pants all you like but ivermectin is still not recommended as a COVID treatment for anyone (including by its manufacturer), despite countless studies and meta-analyses. Fortunately there are no losers with this, because it doesn't f***ing work.
  • I'm not arguing that any of these treatment options were magic bullets. Vaccines definitely did the bulk of the heavy lifting in driving down COVID deaths and hospitalisations. When no vaccines were available, antivirals and steroidal treatments were shown to offer a marginal benefit for some people.
"The virus had a median death age of 83 with three co-morbidities in March 2020."
  • A point estimate is meaningless without understanding the distribution it sits in.
  • Pre-vaccine rollout while the median age of death was north of 80, under 65s were still responsible for:
    • roughly 1/3 of COVID deaths, and over 1/2 of the total life years lost.
    • over 1/2 of hospital and ICU admissions.
  • I appreciate that narcissistic psychopaths like you are ok with this outcome though.
Pharmaceutical company motivations:
  • I can only laugh at your ridiculously hypocritical assessment of pharmaceutical company motivations for the various ineffective treatments your cult recommends vs their motivations for other COVID vaccines and treatment options recommended by expert medical advisory groups. It says a lot about your own motives.
  • You’d have us believe that ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine are manufactured and sold through what? Some magical not-for-profit philanthropic fund? You don't think there were people promoting these products that stood to benefit financially from this?
  • Please enlighten us all - where exactly is the line drawn? How much money is a pharmaceutical company permitted to make off a product before they go from being ethical mom and pop family business looking out for the little guy to an unethical corrupt racket only in it to make 'squillions'?
  • I would have thought that on principle we treat all pharmaceutical companies as unethical and profit-seeking at their core until proven otherwise, but acknowledge that they also happen to make products which have saved or improved billions of lives. But that's just me.
Your contributions to this discussion are so far consistent with your track record - over opinionated and under informed on so many topics, this being the latest. You just regurgitate words you've heard on podcasts or social media with no real understanding of what any of it means.
 
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119others said:
Just had an hour remedial massage with perhaps the most renowned GC therapist. Basically his name could have been Bicks or EB. All he did was talk about how Trump is going to save the world in lots of ways:

  • get rid of the 'deep state', cut Govt and waste, empower the people. He didn't appreciate being asked about who responds to natural disasters like the LA fires if you seriously defund the department
  • make the US a more 'egalitarian' place by evening up income levels for all and dragging the poorer classes up. Capitalism isnt working currently. I certainly agree with the second statement so I asked him why would Trump then increase taxes on the poorest 40% of income earners whilst giving big tax cuts to the high income earners. He deflected and chose not to answer. Remind you of anyone?
  • then ALL the conspiracy shit came out. Putin is good. Trump has military backing in 70 countries thats about to be unleashed. Any of his 'enemies' inc fake pollsters, media people that didnt support Trump may well need to be locked up for the good of the country. Thankfully he also knows who killed JFK. Ditto the whole 911 'inside job' and every other major event the extreme nuts go on about. You cant make this deranged shit up but he firmly believes everything he said
  • Never listen to mainstream media - its all biased. Even Fox News has democratic influence seeping in. Instead you can ONLY trust the Tucker Carlsons of this world.

Actually scary to walk out and think there are people this messed up in the world
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Oh there are idiots everywhere, who would literally would struggle in any short of debate.

And I wouldn’t bother to go back to him and would go somewhere else.
 
119others said:
Would anyone actually be scared of Trump in a real fight? He makes up feeble excuses to avoid the military as he is too scared to go into real battle. He isnt a tough guy. He is big fat soft pus$y cat of a man
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One on one, he would run away in an instance.

Think its appropriate to not call him President Trump but President Dump.
 
ADL9798 said:
In the interests of sticking to the point and not following you in derailing the conversation, the question you asked was when we started trying to treat COVID with antivirals and steroids.
  • Governments were not, as you suggested, withholding these from people until after the vaccine rollout (a lie).
  • In reality, from day dot doctors around the world were trialling a range of different treatment options in an attempt to find something that would work.
  • Naturally as time passed and the evidence-base grew our understanding of what treatments should be prescribed and when for maximum benefit improved.
  • To this day based on assessments of the benefits and risks, antivirals and steroids are still only recommended to treat people at highest risk of severe illness. They're not offered to 'your average, healthy person'. That's not a conspiracy. And you can piss your pants all you like but ivermectin is still not recommended as a COVID treatment for anyone (including by its manufacturer), despite countless studies and meta-analyses. Fortunately there are no losers with this, because it doesn't f***ing work.
  • I'm not arguing that any of these treatment options were magic bullets. Vaccines definitely did the bulk of the heavy lifting in driving down COVID deaths and hospitalisations. When no vaccines were available, antivirals and steroidal treatments were shown to offer a marginal benefit for some people.
"The virus had a median death age of 83 with three co-morbidities in March 2020."
  • A point estimate is meaningless without understanding the distribution it sits in.
  • Pre-vaccine rollout while the median age of death was north of 80, under 65s were still responsible for:
    • roughly 1/3 of COVID deaths, and over 1/2 of the total life years lost.
    • over 1/2 of hospital and ICU admissions.
  • I appreciate that narcissistic psychopaths like you are ok with this outcome though.
Pharmaceutical company motivations:
  • I can only laugh at your ridiculously hypocritical assessment of pharmaceutical company motivations for the various ineffective treatments your cult recommends vs their motivations for other COVID vaccines and treatment options recommended by expert medical advisory groups. It says a lot about your own motives.
  • You’d have us believe that ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine are manufactured and sold through what? Some magical not-for-profit philanthropic fund? You don't think there were people promoting these products that stood to benefit financially from this?
  • Please enlighten us all - where exactly is the line drawn? How much money is a pharmaceutical company permitted to make off a product before they go from being ethical mom and pop family business looking out for the little guy to an unethical corrupt racket only in it to make 'squillions'?
  • I would have thought that on principle we treat all pharmaceutical companies as unethical and profit-seeking at their core until proven otherwise, but acknowledge that they also happen to make products which have saved or improved billions of lives. But that's just me.
Your contributions to this discussion are so far consistent with your track record - over opinionated and under informed on so many topics, this being the latest. You just regurgitate words you've heard on podcasts or social media with no real understanding of what any of it means.
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That last sentence applies to everyone of the MAGA/Trump supporters on here and a few in particular.
 
Slippery Pete said:
Oh FFS. Did the average, healthy person have access to, or even know, that anti-virals were available during the period they were being forced to take Pfizer’s poison jab to keep their jobs and get a f*cking haircut?

I must have missed all those public health messages that said “Don’t stress, if you get Covid you can just take these antivirals. No need to lose your job, your livelihood and be banned from footy games and travel over a vaccine!”

It was only after they’d forced the heart-attack jabs on everyone, as 1970crow correctly pointed out, that it was back to telling them that the vast majority of people could treat Covid at home with Panadol and Gatorade!

Which was never NOT the case, given that we knew the virus had a median death age of 83 with three co-morbidities in March 2020.
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Was one of the co-morbidities TDS syndrome?..just asking😁
 

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Slippery Pete said:
Only one more week to go of this useless f*cking vegetable
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One useless vegetable walks out the door, another walks in.

I think most sane people recognise neither are competent or cognitively sound enough to run the most powerful country on Earth.

For some reason, some people are not only ignoring the cognitive decline of the incoming potato, they are celebrating him as the second coming of Christ. Go figure.

Shrugs GIF
 
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119others said:
Would anyone actually be scared of Trump in a real fight? He makes up feeble excuses to avoid the military as he is too scared to go into real battle. He isnt a tough guy. He is big fat soft pus$y cat of a man
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Says the bloke that supported Biden....Biden couldn't even get through the boxing ring ropes without falling over and injuring humself. Come to think of it he'd probably fall over getting out of the car and injure himself before he even entered the stadium.
 
ADL9798 said:
One useless vegetable walks out the door, another walks in.

I think most sane people recognise neither are competent or cognitively sound enough to run the most powerful country on Earth.

For some reason, some people are not only ignoring the cognitive decline of the incoming potato, they are celebrating him as the second coming of Christ. Go figure.

Shrugs GIF
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Apparently Trump shot 68 in a round of golf today.
What a legend I doubt Gary Player or Jack Nikolaus cold shoot such an amazing round.
 
OneGreatClub said:
Ok I will give you that one.
The official as per Ukrainian is Zelenskyy.

But please elaborate with facts how stopping to fund Ukraine would stop these fires and assist mitigation of climate change.

Also has the trillionaire Musk or the supposed billionaire Trump
offered anything to help, anything at all?
Swift, the woman the right despise, has given ten million dollars.

Please make an accurate connection between the money sent to Ukraine and the fires.
Please explain why you mentioned that money and not the money given to Trump, to Elon etc.
or have you fallen for the Russian psyops as usual?
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