News We’re going to Dingleyland! Teams to move in mid 2025!

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[Billyc]

No concerns with the location etc. But anyone with any exposure to large construction projects would know that our timing has been unlucky. There are challenges and very significant costs that would not have been foreseen at the outset.

 

[A Diakos]

The article speaks about it, but didn’t provide any direct evidence or facts and figures. So many projects these days run over time and over budget. This doesn’t worry me that much.

Which is why Gowers needs to address in next member update

The most important infrastructure project in clubs history where tens of millions of $ allocated and raised and been 10 years in the making can’t have an air of directionless ambiguity in the 11th hour as per media s latest reporting

I’ll await detailed update from the president and his board

 

[wahawk]

The article speaks about “significant delays “ cost blowouts and half the board wanting to abandon the project + key personnel defecting to collingwood

Let’s not trivialise what’s been claimed

And let’s not blow it out of proportion.

At this stage it’s nothing more than a rumour by journo’s.

There is not 1 HFC name mentioned.

I’m sure if there’s an update, Gowers will provide it. But I would not expect him to respond to every rumour out there about Hawthorn.

 

[AussieToffee15]

Which is why Gowers needs to address in next member update

The most important infrastructure project in clubs history where tens of millions of $ allocated and raised and been 10 years in the making can’t have an air of directionless ambiguity in the 11th hour as per media s latest reporting

I’ll await detailed update from the president and his board

I'm not sure why you are so aggressively prosecuting Gowers on this.

He simply inherited this project. If the President responded to ever media article, then that is all they would do. Let the cobblers cobble.

I think you'll find that the former GM that just left for Collingwood has a rather healthy sense of her own ability and having not progressed internally at the HFC, is throwing mud on her way out...

 

[pattymalone00]

I assume with Ash Browne and Brad working for SEN with Sam Edmund we might hear more tonight

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I assume with Ash Browne and Brad working for SEN with Sam Edmund we might hear more tonight

Bradkli's just going to declare that Dingley is a mess and that he knew it all along, regardless of whether it is or not. That's his schtick.

 

[dermott]

I swear some people mainly the people over 50 have their head so far up their arse that they permanently live nostalgia. There is no heart land for clubs anymore in the AFL we're now over 20 years since clubs played at a traditional venue, we have people in their mid 30's that don't know any but the MCG and Docklands.

The only thing that matters is, if we can afford to build the facilities we want and how attractive the area is. We can already answer one of those two questions and it's a massive YES it's a popular area thats booming.

Nothing like a few unsubstantiated sweeping generalisations is there. Being over 70 I know a lot of older and younger Hawthorn supporters most of whom remember and acknowledge the history of the club but none of whom refer to our heartland. We have all moved on from the Glenferrie Oval even though we have fond memories of attending training sessions there.
Perhaps some people “have their head up their arse” but everyone I know accepts that to succeed in anything you have to keep improving and not live in the past.
Accordingly I am happy for the club to move to Dingley and hope that that move is managed successfully and within our means financially. I travel from Bayside to the Mornington Peninsula regularly so it suits me more than Waverley.

 

[wahawk]

I'm not sure why you are so aggressively prosecuting Gowers on this.

He simply inherited this project. If the President responded to ever media article, then that is all they would do. Let the cobblers cobble.

I think you'll find that the former GM that just left for Collingwood has a rather healthy sense of her own ability and having not progressed internally at the HFC, is throwing mud on her way out...

While we’re on the subject of schtick

A Diakos went after Gowers before he was even elected, that’s their schtick

 

[pattymalone00]

As long as it doesn't have the look and feel of the soulless lifeless "Hangar" at Tullamarine I'll be happy.

I assume it depends how much more they change the design the current one definitely looks way better then Tullamarine which just looks like a massive shed tbh

 

[pattymalone00]

Ash Browne got a briefing from the club and is definitely still going ahead, will time stamp it for you guys once it’s available on demand

 

[theiaofseed]

Nothing like a few unsubstantiated sweeping generalisations is there. Being over 70 I know a lot of older and younger Hawthorn supporters most of whom remember and acknowledge the history of the club but none of whom refer to our heartland. We have all moved on from the Glenferrie Oval even though we have fond memories of attending training sessions there.
Perhaps some people “have their head up their arse” but everyone I know accepts that to succeed in anything you have to keep improving and not live in the past.
Accordingly I am happy for the club to move to Dingley and hope that that move is managed successfully and within our means financially. I travel from Bayside to the Mornington Peninsula regularly so it suits me more than Waverley.

Yes because that was clearly directed at people like you,

 

[pattymalone00]

about 29:15 is the chat/update on dingley

 

[Off The Couch]

Yes because that was clearly directed at people like you,

That’s what happens when you make sweeping statements - was no need to label anyone

Ash Browne got a briefing from the club and is definitely still going ahead, will time stamp it for you guys once it’s available on demand

Has to go ahead and while it might need to be done in stages, I hope they don’t take any shortcuts or make changes to save money

 

[wahawk]

about 29:15 is the chat/update on dingley

What did they say ?
I don’t twit

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

What did they say ?
I don’t twit

HFC admit there are challenges, but Dingley is still going ahead. They are landlocked at Waverley and cannot build or add lights to the ground for AFLW. Need to get out of there.

Recent objections from some locals about traffic numbers once Dingley is built, that they have no impact on, that seem to have been sorted.
Some things that needed to be worked through due to landfill history of the site and the “capping”.
Delay in construction is not unique(labor, materials etc)won’t be massive delays.
Went into this with their eyes wide open and they know it might cost a little bit more than first anticipated, but not too concerned about that.

Might not get in there until early 2025.

 

[Steven Tyler]

HFC admit there are challenges, but Dingley is still going ahead. They are landlocked at Waverley and cannot build or add lights to the ground for AFLW. Need to get out of there.

Recent objections from some locals about traffic numbers once Dingley is built, that they have no impact on, that seem to have been sorted.
Some things that needed to be worked through due to landfill history of the site and the “capping”.
Delay in construction is not unique(labor, materials etc)won’t be massive delays.
Went into this with their eyes wide open and they know it might cost a little bit more than first anticipated, but not too concerned about that.

Might not get in there until early 2025.

Any mention of the board being “split”?

 

[wahawk]

HFC admit there are challenges, but Dingley is still going ahead. They are landlocked at Waverley and cannot build or add lights to the ground for AFLW. Need to get out of there.

Recent objections from some locals about traffic numbers once Dingley is built, that they have no impact on, that seem to have been sorted.
Some things that needed to be worked through due to landfill history of the site and the “capping”.
Delay in construction is not unique(labor, materials etc)won’t be massive delays.
Went into this with their eyes wide open and they know it might cost a little bit more than first anticipated, but not too concerned about that.

Might not get in there until early 2025.

Thanks for that.

I’m sure it won’t be enough for some & they’ll still say there’s trouble at Dingleyland

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Any mention of the board being “split”?

None. Ash was just repeating that update that someone from the HFC had given him as a response to the articles.

 

[pattymalone00]

None. Ash was just repeating that update that someone from the HFC had given him as a response to the articles.

Apparently they will also have Sam Edmund on in the next few weeks so should hear more then

 

[theiaofseed]

That’s what happens when you make sweeping statements - was no need to label anyone



Has to go ahead and while it might need to be done in stages, I hope they don’t take any shortcuts or make changes to save money

Sweeping statements huh that just happened to follow Caroline Wilson's comments and included the word some, so apparently some equals a sweeping statement which includes everyone?

 

[lethalselbow]

As long as it doesn't have the look and feel of the soulless lifeless "Hangar" at Tullamarine I'll be happy.

Initially I was a bit concerned about the distance from the inner suburbs and how this will affect player attraction, however I think Essendon's move to the Tullamarine could be a good precedent for this. It hasn't negatively affected their player attraction/retention and is in a worse spot than Dingley.

It could also be an opportunity to really solidify our position in the Eastern suburbs of Melbourne. I'm sure the club has some comprehensive data about where our members and supporters are located and our targeted growth areas.

The roads and public transport have been improving all the time, in the area, so easy to get down to Dingley. Separates us from all the cookie cutter city based clubs. Brilliant move and future planning.

 

[Mercy Seat]

I assume it depends how much more they change the design the current one definitely looks way better then Tullamarine which just looks like a massive shed tbhView attachment 1756549View attachment 1756550

I wish we'd gone with someone other than Pedal Thorpe as Architects as they are usually a bit shit, but I think they've done an ok job here.

In terms of this whole issue, construction costs have gone up as much as 50% in some sectors of the industry, and lead times still haven't recovered post covid.

 

[MrPremiership]

Sweeping statements huh that just happened to follow Caroline Wilson's comments and included the word some, so apparently some equals a sweeping statement which includes everyone?

Caro lost me when she said we were moving further out of Melbourne........Dingley is closer to town than Mulgrave

People need to stop thinking this is a Seaford move

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Caro lost me when she said we were moving further out of Melbourne........Dingley is closer to town than Mulgrave

People need to stop thinking this is a Seaford move

Seafood was also set up to spite the city of Kingston- saints wanted to move the pokies to south Rd, council wouldn't allow it, saints kicked up a stink (I worked at a rival pub in moorabbin at the time and know the true story - they even sent a letter asking for help to get approval)

Hawks moving to dingley is because there's no room to grow at Waverley- just as there was no room at glenferrie.

 

[bigmaxi]

The roads and public transport have been improving all the time, in the area, so easy to get down to Dingley. Separates us from all the cookie cutter city based clubs. Brilliant move and future planning.

Yep i love the decision, feeder for the whole of Bayside and the Peninsular and Cranbourne and Gippsland too. Been out and had a look, thinking 10, 20 and even 50 years down the track this is a life time move.