Player Watch Welcome to Hawthorn: Pick 23, Sam Butler

[lethalselbow]

You forgot Dimma. This is serious.

... seriously good problem to have?

 

[brad sue well]

I see this increased running capacity as the Moore role. Getting involved in the play up the ground and fewer shots at goal may take pressure off really nicely.

 

[Manila_Hawk]

SB is a serious tackling machine.
Have I got that correct?

If so, maybe he could help to stop the oppo running the ball out of our forward line so easily.

 

[burner1]

Can anyone who’s watched training comment on his kicking? For a guy who’s explosive at times he appeared to struggle for distance on his kicks.

If Hardwick is forward expect we’re going for a smallish forward line. Lewis + Chol as 2nd forward/ruck + 4/5 smaller types. Breust, Moore, Hardwick, ginnivan + say Watson/butler for last spot.

 

[Mojo]

Butler looking in fine shape.

The tape on the lower part of the knee. Can someone enlighten me as to how this helps or what's it for, please?

It's like when NBA players where elbow sleeves...

 

[Bugs1977]

SB is a serious tackling machine.
Have I got that correct?

If so, maybe he could help to stop the oppo running the ball out of our forward line so easily.

In an interview with Ch7 Moore did mention the idea that we could play a bit of small ball with the upcoming season. This might be the way to go in wet weather games.

 

[tl92]

Can anyone who’s watched training comment on his kicking? For a guy who’s explosive at times he appeared to struggle for distance on his kicks.

If Hardwick is forward expect we’re going for a smallish forward line. Lewis + Chol as 2nd forward/ruck + 4/5 smaller types. Breust, Moore, Hardwick, ginnivan + say Watson/butler for last spot.

Gut tells me Hardwick still plays back. Will be interesting to watch

 

[MadDawg]

In an interview with Ch7 Moore did mention the idea that we could play a bit of small ball with the upcoming season. This might be the way to go in wet weather games.

I think it's the way to go in general for modern footy.

The Bulldogs and Tigers won their premierships by being the first movers to small ball, but they and most of the league moved away from it despite the results.

I hope we really lean into it this year.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

I think it's the way to go in general for modern footy.

The Bulldogs and Tigers won their premierships by being the first movers to small ball, but they and most of the league moved away from it despite the results.

I hope we really lean into it this year.

I much rather our Hawks style of 2013/14/15 and having both tall and smalls. If one’s having an of day the others are there waiting.

We had Buddy and Roughy for our talls. A Poppy and Rioli as our speedy small forwards. Whom was complimented by Bruest!

 

[H00t]

I much rather our Hawks style of 2013/14/15 and having both tall and smalls. If one’s having an of day the others are there waiting.

We had Buddy and Roughy for our talks. A Poppy and Rioli as our speedy small forwards. Whom was complimented by Bruest!

That forward line worked so well as we had 3 of the top 5 pressure forwards in the league and 1 of those being just about the best pressure forwards ever.

That’s what enabled us to play as tall as we did.

Nothing wrong with playing an extra small or two especially when apart from Lewis our talls really aren’t banging the door down.

 

[Hawkers Hero]

That forward line worked so well as we had 3 of the top 5 pressure forwards in the league and 1 of those being just about the best pressure forwards ever.

That’s what enabled us to play as tall as we did.

Nothing wrong with playing an extra small or two especially when apart from Lewis our talls really aren’t banging the door down.

Not to mention the two talls were all time in terms of their athleticism. Whilst not tackling machines, Buddy and Rough were not witches hats

 

[Brishawk]

I think it's the way to go in general for modern footy.

The Bulldogs and Tigers won their premierships by being the first movers to small ball, but they and most of the league moved away from it despite the results.

I hope we really lean into it this year.

The league saw this happen...

 

[The Chad and I]

That's a bit rough. He has had his injury issues got a clean run at it this year and has given himself every chance to succeed.

I am impressed, but I'm also astounded at the improvement.

Maginness is elite.
We were talking about Finn's workrate being the key weapon that rendered the best midfielders in the competition useless.
Now a guy who was sometimes good at Box Hill is suddenly in his class as a runner.
Incredible improvement.

If Butler becomes the kind of high-workrate half forward/outside mid that he promises, he could well be on track to have a significant season.

 

[naysayer]

I am impressed, but I'm also astounded at the improvement.

Maginness is elite.
We were talking about Finn's workrate being the key weapon that rendered the best midfielders in the competition useless.
Now a guy who was sometimes good at Box Hill is suddenly in his class as a runner.
Incredible improvement.

If Butler becomes the kind of high-workrate half forward/outside mid that he promises, he could well be on track to have a significant season.

Not to diminish Butler's time trial result, but 4x1km is different to what happens over the course of the 12-14km that players regularly run during games, let alone the 15-17km covered by the best runners.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Not to diminish Butler's time trial result, but 4x1km is different to what happens over the course of the 12-14km that players regularly run during games, let alone the 15-17km covered by the best runners.

Butler has become one of our fittest no one can diminish what he has done this pre season. He has set himself to succeed. Full credit to him. His football now needs to match his fitness. They will have another run after coming back from xmas

 

[WWSD]

Breust is nearing the end of his career. I think there’s room to play Ginnivan, Butler & Watson as the three small forwards.

 

[The Chad and I]

Breust is nearing the end of his career. I think there’s room to play Ginnivan, Butler & Watson as the three small forwards.

Good variety in that 3.
They would all want to improve their pressure.
I'm sure they can if they make it a focus.

 

[Topiary]

Gut tells me Hardwick still plays back. Will be interesting to watch

Only if it is needed.

 

[Topiary]

Breust is nearing the end of his career. I think there’s room to play Ginnivan, Butler & Watson as the three small forwards.

Reality is that Bruest is losing his natural attacking awareness and capability. Very natural outcome. I too hope OSullivan can be in the small forward mix going forward.

 

[cs61]

Reality is that Bruest is losing his natural attacking awareness and capability. Very natural outcome. I too hope OSullivan can be in the small forward mix going forward.

I had that feeling last year in the first month or so that he was struggling. But I do wonder how hard it was for the smalls with Greene and Meek as our key forwards.... It didn't seem a coincidence that all of Breust, CMac, and Moore got into much better form when Lewis and later on Ryan came into the side. Breust was even in AA contention by end of year. I reckon Breust roaming around with so much more support both in the air and with small forwards could see him stay pretty dangerous for another year.

 

[TylerDurden]

I had that feeling last year in the first month or so that he was struggling. But I do wonder how hard it was for the smalls with Greene and Meek as our key forwards.... It didn't seem a coincidence that all of Breust, CMac, and Moore got into much better form when Lewis and later on Ryan came into the side. Breust was even in AA contention by end of year. I reckon Breust roaming around with so much more support both in the air and with small forwards could see him stay pretty dangerous for another year.

He was a one man show when Lewis went down.
Will relish the support, and thrive this year.

 

[HawthornHawk]

His brother didn't play a senior game until his third year

 

[jumpingjai]

In an interview with Ch7 Moore did mention the idea that we could play a bit of small ball with the upcoming season. This might be the way to go in wet weather games.

If we can bring the ball out of the centre or backline with speed and elite kicking (Sis Amon etc) the small forward line can work.

 

[Yardie]

I much rather our Hawks style of 2013/14/15 and having both tall and smalls. If one’s having an of day the others are there waiting.

We had Buddy and Roughy for our talls. A Poppy and Rioli as our speedy small forwards. Whom was complimented by Bruest!

Gunston says hi!

 

[Judd2Sewell]

His brother didn't play a senior game until his third year

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