Win Prizes Werewolf comes to General Discussion - Day Eight - SK wins

[Pamcake1]

I'm being led by the nose here, haven't changed my vote before now for the third time in a day......Jhye Clark 13 thanks Gralin
There you go I hope you are all happy now. I don't care today, people who don't read the posts, people who just want to tell everyone what they think they know but then act all sad.....

 

[Pamcake1]

Jhyeclark for me Gralin . I have however completely confused myself with the apprentice role though and look forward to dying to have my questions answered.

You are evil...I can feel it in my waters MP_

 

[Quivorir]

According to the math nerds the math says Jhyeclark please Gralin Wosh

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Ok, then why haven't they been challenged? I have no information to work out their role (or I don't understand the available information to work it out).

I get the maths (now). At least that bit makes sense.

When I say challenged, I mean counter claimed. So if you said you were the seer in a game but were lying and I was actually the seer. Then I could come out and say no you're lying and then people have to choose to believe someone. As no one has counterclaimed (and the fact JC said he would be a "villager") then we have to assume the seer is correct.

 

[Quivorir]

Phone wouldn't let me unbold so hope that's acceptable.

 

[MP_]

You are evil...I can feel it in my waters MP_

Are you pregnant because I think your waters are broke

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Are you pregnant because I think your waters are broke

 

[Pamcake1]

myblueroan you put me in this.
Probably because I didn't like the baked offerings....so you cooked my goose.....I think it would only be fair if you reconsidered your vote here. I can't believe that I would side with a collywobble no matter how helpful

Are you pregnant because I think your waters are broke

none of your beeswax MP_

 

[Pie 4 Life]

myblueroan you put me in this.
Probably because I didn't like the baked offerings....so you cooked my goose.....I think it would only be fair if you reconsidered your vote here. I can't believe that I would side with a collywobble no matter how helpful

none of your beeswax MP_

Can you clarify this? Are you saying they outed you?

 

[Pamcake1]

Are you pregnant because I think your waters are broke

The boyfriend's going to be visiting you a little later

Can you clarify this? Are you saying they outed you?

Duh.......what was that this morning about a melt?

 

[MP_]

The boyfriend's going to be visiting you a little later
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Duh.......what was that this morning about a melt?

I’ll put the beers on ice, looks like he drinks light beers though

 

[Mesc]

Ha!
Or...maybe a 'let's get werewolves' thing?
Didn't you also show as evil?
Meh... of course you aren't!

 

[Chipmunk]

Just as a point of interest myblueroan Pamcake1 Nothing and others since this is meant to be an introduction game (and Pie 4 Life feel free to contradict if you’d like)

This game is not ‘Good v Evil’ and Neutral decides who to help. It’s Good v Evil v Neutral. Only one wins. Neutral’s wincon is for one of them to reach the final 4. Fewer people helps them. They have the easiest wincon, which is why they start with fewer people, and their power increases exponentially when we reach the final 10 because every lynch has to essentially hit them, even if there are other outed evils.

It’s not uncommon for an outed Neutral to offer to help good since there are less of them (as is the case here). It’s not usually the right strategy as they just want to make the final 10, in which case they’re pretty much close to victory. To your points about Swans myblueroan , he admitted he was wrong after the lynch and berated me and MP_ for not overriding his decision to spare him.

Your decision is whether Pie 4 Life is genuinely increasing the chances of a village win or not. I’m saying an outed Neutral with 15 to go should strategically be lynched to avoid 2 Neutrals making the final 10 and taking the power of the game away from the village. Every experienced player is agreeing with me. He’s saying that the priority should be nailing heads because heads can’t die overnight. That is also a strategic argument.

That’s the joy of the game

 

[MP_]

What is pleasing me is the new players starting to get into this it warms the cockles of my heart

 

[Mesc]

who's on your team?

 

[Pamcake1]

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Just as a point of interest myblueroan Pamcake1 Nothing and others since this is meant to be an introduction game (and Pie 4 Life feel free to contradict if you’d like)

This game is not ‘Good v Evil’ and Neutral decides who to help. It’s Good v Evil v Neutral. Only one wins. Neutral’s wincon is for one of them to reach the final 4. Fewer people helps them. They have the easiest wincon, which is why they start with fewer people, and their power increases exponentially when we reach the final 10 because every lynch has to essentially hit them, even if there are other outed evils.

It’s not uncommon for an outed Neutral to offer to help good since there are less of them (as is the case here). It’s not usually the right strategy as they just want to make the final 10, in which case they’re pretty much close to victory. To your points about Swans myblueroan , he admitted he was wrong after the lynch and berated me and MP_ for not overriding his decision to spare him.

Your decision is whether Pie 4 Life is genuinely increasing the chances of a village win or not. I’m saying an outed Neutral with 15 to go should strategically be lynched to avoid 2 Neutrals making the final 10 and taking the power of the game away from the village. Every experienced player is agreeing with me. He’s saying that the priority should be nailing heads because heads can’t die overnight. That is also a strategic argument.

That’s the joy of the game

I think you're showing what team you're on here. If you don't think a head is the priority here (when there's four in each faction) you've shown your cards.

There's one villager in this game, mathematically we have a chance to take out a head. You can kill me tonight if you like and you know it. But don't pretend like taking out a head isn't the right move just because it hurts your faction.

Since when is taking out a non night immune player better than a night immune player in a lynch? It's nonsensical.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Sorry JhyeClark but I’m voting you today, Gralin and Wosh.

Will talk about sport and life in the DMs in the new year

 

[Pie 4 Life]

For all the new players, essentially Chipmunk's post is saying "I'm in a faction with JC 13 and don't want him to die".

 

[myblueroan]

Ok so if My

It's Pamcake for #$%@sake........I hate Pam. I've been outed by the soothsaying bluehorse. I have no power, looking like I'm a goner in the coming night. No ones paying me any attention when I've fessed up to being the village idiot. What's the mystery?

You wouldn't be a goner for being a plIm ol villager right now you wouldn't think pamcake. I outed myself as well for the good of trying to save us. I asked for other seer so we could sort who is seeing correctly. We figured that out. I've protected our Doctor.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

For those good aligned, if evil wants me dead (spoiler alert they do as Chippy said they need me dead), then they can damn well do it themselves at night.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

You wouldn't be a goner for being a plIm ol villager right now you wouldn't think pamcake. I outed myself as well for the good of trying to save us. I asked for other seer so we could sort who is seeing correctly. We figured that out. I've protected our Doctor.

Well either Pamcake or JC13 is a head, that's just a fact based on numbers. JC13 is just the one more than crafty enough of getting it done.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Also @ Doc I would protect myblueroan tonight as their information from seers will be the most valuable to the village given the sheer volume of roles left.

 

[myblueroan]

and that's without me ******* it up and then playing fast and loose with reality

Gralin
I looked up rules which said SK and apprentice are neutral.
So if it's true that SK chooses a player and that player already has a role, but then has to be apprentice...do they stop in the other role? Who are they beholden to?
What if their team wants to take out the SK?
I thought that Apprentice would be sorted before other roles are given out?

 

[Chipmunk]

I think you're showing what team you're on here. If you don't think a head is the priority here (when there's four in each faction) you've shown your cards.

There's one villager in this game, mathematically we have a chance to take out a head. You can kill me tonight if you like and you know it. But don't pretend like taking out a head isn't the right move just because it hurts your faction.

Since when is taking out a non night immune player better than a night immune player in a lynch? It's nonsensical.

With more than 10 to go, absolutely you take out the guaranteed evil/neutral rather than the punt. Otherwise in future games evil will be outing themselves all over the place and going ‘but don’t lynch me, take a punt on a Head’! There’s plenty of time to sort out the unknowns.

And you know it. Understand that you want to argue otherwise