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What They're Saying - The Bulldogs Media Thread - Part 4
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Angak
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Gerrard wouldn't let him finish his thought... so frustrating.
Losing Naughton would be heartbreaking. Baz & English I could live with as long we got good compensation.
What compensation would you consider appropriate?
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The 1997 premiership cup and Brownlow medal?! And our club taxidermist getting access to Ian Collins.
Literally 2014 all over again. Chris Grant has overseen it both times, what a shambles. Is Baz much of a pig shooter?
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Will turn his phone off, and fly to an apartment at Bondi to work his way through trying on his new Cotton On gear. In blue and white. And dream of lazy days sipping chai at Indented Head.
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A welcome distraction was watching 4 Corners on the ABC, titled ‘silencer’. Talked about why no player has come out as gay in the AFL, Bob Murphy, on Aker’s homophobic slur, Issy Islington and a few others, interesting watch.
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The pressure would be unbearable for the first openly out footy player. Would cop it from all sides about not doing enough/keep you mouth shut in the social media dominated world we live in.
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"Caroline Wilson believes..."
There's where factual reporting of games gets lost in BS rumour-mongering and ambulance chasing.
She doesn't KNOW, no one has TOLD her anything, there are NO concrete facts involved. She "believes". FMD.
Some people believe in fictional beings. Doesn't prove they exist.
What players are 'growing' (my quotes) 'disaffected' (Ch9 quotes to prove Wilson is going off a vibe she's not even part of)?
Wilson knows NOTHING of substance herself, and Cornes wants Bevo's scalp to justify his own existence.
I know why I never watch this sh1t, because "sh1t" is an overly generous description of the analytical and 'journalistic' (my quotes!) abilities of these 2 festering pustules, based on what people post of their inane ramblings on here.
The Media can smell Blood big week ahead for the club
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She's not the only one, but yes she is. Along with her TV and radio stable-mates, a pox on the lot of 'em.
Cornes isn’t genuine, be picks and chooses. He dislikes Bev so goes hard at him. Meanwhile Ken Hinkley could involuntarily defacate on himself in the coaches box and Port could send a player back out after a coronary and Cornes would applaud both as brave decisions.
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They can, and they'll relish in it, ignoring there are actual human beings involved. I suspect Wilson will justify Bevo's scalp, if that eventuates, as pay back for her little Tommy being outed as a misogynistic tool out of his depth. And that Barrett creature wants his testicles to descend again, but they can't while Bevo still has an AFL career. Cornes seems to blame Beveridge for his own failure to become a real grown-up fireman, so like a coward tries to light spot fires - just hasn't worked out he needs matches, not tooth picks.
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You guys are all Nuffs.
Kane was 100% right.
Kane was 100% right.
He is, but if he wasn't so subjective with who he calls out, he'd be taken a lot more seriously. Similarly if a player didn't flop, they'd get more legitimate free kicks, but once a flopper always a flopper in the umpire's eyes. In Kane's case, once a dick always a dick in the eyes of many.
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Rumour file. Training cancelled and they Are going out for lunch!!!
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You could imagine commentators would be completely unable to not mention it several times each game, much the same as “Pendlebury has a background in basketball.” They would fall over themselves to demonstrate how “open-minded” and “accepting” they were.
Not to mention the social media trolls would make life a misery, not just for the player, but for his club and wider circle. That’s where we are, unfortunately.
It seems to be quite different in women’s sport, for some reason.
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Baffling Bulldogs: Is it the coach or is it the team? | Footyology
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Fox Footy Article
There’s reportedly a “correction” to be made over Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge’s level of power at the club amid claims of player “discord”.
The Dogs face a horror scenario of missing out on finals for the first time since 2018 after a disastrous loss to the then 18th-placed Eagles at Marvel Stadium on Sunday as Beveridge’s side fell to 11-11 on the season.
It leaves them sitting ninth on the ladder with one round to play.
Now veteran journalist Caroline Wilson has lifted the lid on player discontent which she says has surfaced due to constant selection changes week to week and an overall lack of stability.
And she believes Beveridge has “had too much power for too long” and that “moves have been to rectify that”.
Wilson did, however, note that Dogs bosses denied that view — adding that the coach is “lucky” to have the support of skipper Marcus Bontempelli.Later expanding on the topic on Channel 9’s Footy Classified, Wilson suggested it leaves question marks on the futures of several Dogs stars.
“A lot more players leave the Bulldogs than other clubs,” Wilson said on Channel 9,
“I just feel and hear there is some more disaffected players this year.
“We know what happened with (Josh) Dunkley last year, we’re not sure where Bailey Smith’s future is, we’re not sure how Adam Treloar’s feeling at the moment. Will Tim English accept a big offer to go an play for West Coast?
“Just a general dissatisfaction with the lack of cohesion and consistency in form and selection.
“Thanks heavens Luke Beveridge has Marcus Bontempelli who has been his great leader and supporter during all of this.
“(There’s) a definite correction coming over Luke Beveridge’s authority.”
Dogs footy boss Chris Grant on SEN on Monday backed in Beveridge, who at the end of last year penned a two-year extension until 2025.
It’d be Beveridge’s 11th season at the helm.
Beveridge, who first took the reins at Whitten Oval in 2015 and coached the Dogs to their drought-breaking 2016 premiership, has since guided the team to 10th, 13th, seventh, seventh, fifth and eighth finishes respectively including a grand final appearance in 2021.
However dual All-Australian Kane Cornes, who’s long been critical of Beveridge over claims he’s not getting the most out of his side, called for the club to make the “hard call” and part ways with its premiership coach.
Cornes went on to say that, aside from the Dogs’ underwhelming on-field performance, Beveridge has been a “poor ambassador” for the club.
“Absolutely change is needed now, otherwise it will get ugly towards the start of next season,” Cornes told Footy Classified.
“They need to make a hard call. He’s been a great coach for the footy club, put a statue of him up, put a plaque up at the Whitten Oval to celebrate what he has done.
“But 2016 is a long time ago and since then, they’ve just been an ordinary club. Yes they went to a grand final (2021), but their performance was embarrassing on the day, really. Since then, it’s all been downhill.
“This has been on the cards for a while and unfortunately it takes a loss like yesterday to highlight just how poor they’re going.”
Essendon legend Matthew Lloyd put it on Grant and Dogs CEO Ameet Bains to do a thorough examination at Whitten Oval to decipher where change might be needed.
“I have great respect for Ameet Bains and Chris Grant, they’re good football people, but they have to ask the hard questions,” Lloyd added.
“We’ll find out if they’re hard enough, it looks like they’ve made a hard decision on (outgoing assistant coach) Rohan Smith.
“Players aren’t everything, but what I think they need to do is ask about why they get the inconsistency and if it’s enough for everyone to change around Luke. Would that be enough to change the environment, or is Luke the problem here?”
There’s reportedly a “correction” to be made over Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge’s level of power at the club amid claims of player “discord”.
The Dogs face a horror scenario of missing out on finals for the first time since 2018 after a disastrous loss to the then 18th-placed Eagles at Marvel Stadium on Sunday as Beveridge’s side fell to 11-11 on the season.
It leaves them sitting ninth on the ladder with one round to play.
Now veteran journalist Caroline Wilson has lifted the lid on player discontent which she says has surfaced due to constant selection changes week to week and an overall lack of stability.
And she believes Beveridge has “had too much power for too long” and that “moves have been to rectify that”.
Wilson did, however, note that Dogs bosses denied that view — adding that the coach is “lucky” to have the support of skipper Marcus Bontempelli.Later expanding on the topic on Channel 9’s Footy Classified, Wilson suggested it leaves question marks on the futures of several Dogs stars.
“A lot more players leave the Bulldogs than other clubs,” Wilson said on Channel 9,
“I just feel and hear there is some more disaffected players this year.
“We know what happened with (Josh) Dunkley last year, we’re not sure where Bailey Smith’s future is, we’re not sure how Adam Treloar’s feeling at the moment. Will Tim English accept a big offer to go an play for West Coast?
“Just a general dissatisfaction with the lack of cohesion and consistency in form and selection.
“Thanks heavens Luke Beveridge has Marcus Bontempelli who has been his great leader and supporter during all of this.
“(There’s) a definite correction coming over Luke Beveridge’s authority.”
Dogs footy boss Chris Grant on SEN on Monday backed in Beveridge, who at the end of last year penned a two-year extension until 2025.
It’d be Beveridge’s 11th season at the helm.
Beveridge, who first took the reins at Whitten Oval in 2015 and coached the Dogs to their drought-breaking 2016 premiership, has since guided the team to 10th, 13th, seventh, seventh, fifth and eighth finishes respectively including a grand final appearance in 2021.
However dual All-Australian Kane Cornes, who’s long been critical of Beveridge over claims he’s not getting the most out of his side, called for the club to make the “hard call” and part ways with its premiership coach.
Cornes went on to say that, aside from the Dogs’ underwhelming on-field performance, Beveridge has been a “poor ambassador” for the club.
“Absolutely change is needed now, otherwise it will get ugly towards the start of next season,” Cornes told Footy Classified.
“They need to make a hard call. He’s been a great coach for the footy club, put a statue of him up, put a plaque up at the Whitten Oval to celebrate what he has done.
“But 2016 is a long time ago and since then, they’ve just been an ordinary club. Yes they went to a grand final (2021), but their performance was embarrassing on the day, really. Since then, it’s all been downhill.
“This has been on the cards for a while and unfortunately it takes a loss like yesterday to highlight just how poor they’re going.”
Essendon legend Matthew Lloyd put it on Grant and Dogs CEO Ameet Bains to do a thorough examination at Whitten Oval to decipher where change might be needed.
“I have great respect for Ameet Bains and Chris Grant, they’re good football people, but they have to ask the hard questions,” Lloyd added.
“We’ll find out if they’re hard enough, it looks like they’ve made a hard decision on (outgoing assistant coach) Rohan Smith.
“Players aren’t everything, but what I think they need to do is ask about why they get the inconsistency and if it’s enough for everyone to change around Luke. Would that be enough to change the environment, or is Luke the problem here?”
Dogs_R_Us
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Is that a verifiable fact?
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Not sure but let's go over a history.
2016 - Hamling, Stevens & Hrovat
2017 - Stringer
2018 - Adams, Roughead & Dahlhaus
2021 - Lipinski & Young
2022 - Dunkley, Hunter & Cordy
It doesn't seem like it's too much of a pattern or anything out of the ordinary. 5 fringe players, 1 kicked out of the club (Stringer), 1 family related matter (Hamling), 3 fresh starts (Hunter, Adams, Rough), 1 cooked player (Dahl) and 1 genuine gun (Dunkley).
