Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XV

[eth-dog]

How was that not 50 against Chol?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Back in your box blues

 

[citizen-erased]

How was that not 50 against Chol?

McKay dive was over the top. glad the ump ignored it and given his form, i'd like to see the AFL ban him for a week.

 

[TheGrizz]

Malcolm Rosas showed why we were so keen on him last year

 

[TheWeapon]

Looks like the new coach boost of the pies, blues and hawks only lasted a few weeks. Cripps out is a huge blow for them, he has been gary ablett jnr with gold coast level of carrying them this year

 

[BomberFan355]

Reminds me of round 4 2012, the last time Carlton thought they were going to win the flag.

 

[Mercurial89]

Shit, Ollie Wines has myocarditis.

That's disturbing.

I'm am sure the reactionaries on the other side will work it out soon but I fail to see how the AFL, the clubs and any employer generally can argue that it has discharged its non-delegable duty of care. There are some big payouts in the making of all of this.

Doesn't have myocarditis so probably hold fire on AFL duty of care angle.

 

[Kyptastic]

Can't remember the last game of ours where we doubled the other team's score. Envious of Saints' performance today.

Literally 7 games ago.

 

[BrunoV]

Doesn't have myocarditis so probably hold fire on AFL duty of care angle.

That's what was being reported.

It's not the only heart issue, by the way.

 

[bomberman500]

Did dodo consider bringing in Will Brodie

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Will Brodie

Age

26

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

at all?? he's had a good start to his time at Freo

 

[Mercurial89]

That's what was being reported.

It's not the only heart issue, by the way.

Yep, there has been a number of current players, draftees etc that have had varying heart issues over a fairly lengthy period of time.

 

[Lore]

Did dodo consider bringing in Will Brodie at all?? he's had a good start to his time at Freo

Whole discussion about it starting here:

Team Mgmt. - Talk about the makeup of our list - midfield balance, height profile, endurance runners

I've always figured Brown & Hartley were picked up on the suspicion that our players would be suspended in some form, for some period of time. Both turned out to be reasonable choices at the selection for us, and both got picked up after they left EFC which suggests they were at least somewhat...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[faible]

Yep, there has been a number of current players, draftees etc that have had varying heart issues over a fairly lengthy period of time.

Yeah but if you ignore all them, no AFL player has had a heart issue pre-vaccine. Clearly a conspiracy.

 

['51 Bewick]

Heart problems have been around forever. I was talking to Leigh Matthew's brother Calvin in the TAB just after he retired years ago and he said it was because of a dicky ticker.

 

[Mercurial89]

Yeah but if you ignore all them, no AFL player has had a heart issue pre-vaccine. Clearly a conspiracy.

I think most people's thoughts are "elite athlete can't have heart issues" and that isn't a horrendous take but there would be a higher incidence of heart troubles in AFL players vs their non sportsman age demographics purely because they are screened for it.

 

[faible]

I think most people's thoughts are "elite athlete can't have heart issues" and that isn't a horrendous take but there would be a higher incidence of heart troubles in AFL players vs their non sportsman age demographics purely because they are screened for it.

Yep, also whilst these guys (along with other elite athletes) are super fit, it also means that what would be a relatively inconsequential issue for the average person, is a genuine issue when trying to play elite sport.

 

[BrunoV]

It would be great, if the science wasn't as settled as it is, so that this issue could be discussed.

But, you know, when you're on the censoring side of history, when have you ever been wrong?

 

[faible]

It would be great, if the science wasn't as settled as it is, so that this issue could be discussed.

But, you know, when you're on the censoring side of history, when have you ever been wrong?

It's pretty settled.

The vaccine isn't causing a drastic upswing in heart issues in elite athletes, with any incidents of myocarditis being both uncommon, and mild.

Also, cases like this one get shared around without anyone bothering to check it out;

Fact Check-Danish footballer Christian Eriksen has not received a COVID-19 vaccine, according to Inter Milan’s director

Danish footballer Christian Eriksen’s collapse on the pitch was not a result of a COVID-19 vaccine, despite false speculation on social media. Inter Milan’s director told reporters that the club midfielder has not been vaccinated.

www.reuters.com

 

[BrunoV]

We should disband the judicial system and replace it with fact checkers.

 

[Mercurial89]

It would be great, if the science wasn't as settled as it is, so that this issue could be discussed.

But, you know, when you're on the censoring side of history, when have you ever been wrong?

What exactly is it that you are trying to say?
That Wines does have myocarditis?

 

[faible]

We should disband the judicial system and replace it with fact checkers.

What does the judicial system have to do with assessing medical data?

 

[BrunoV]

What exactly is it that you are trying to say?
That Wines does have myocarditis?

I'm not allowed to say anything, really. These posts will likely be deleted.

 

[BrunoV]

What does the judicial system have to do with assessing medical data?

I often marvel at the ease with which journalism graduates, bearing in mind I have looked at this specific fact check, have developed the ability to synthesis and test information it takes a judge, at least 2 adversarial parties, experts, a few years prep and a hearing to determine in the real world.

 

[Sporno 4 Pyros]

Heart problems have been around forever. I was talking to Leigh Matthew's brother Calvin in the TAB just after he retired years ago and he said it was because of a dicky ticker.

Yes I agree it has been around for ages. You drive a car flat out all the time and you end up with engine problems…maybe the kids are training too much
4 players had issues back in 2018 so it appears to be a common problem prior to 2022

Bartlett voices concerns over spate of AFL heart irregularities

Kevin Bartlett says the AFL should be alarmed by the spike in players suffering from heart irregularities this season.

www.sen.com.au

 

[faible]

I often marvel at the ease with which journalism graduates, bearing in mind I have looked at this specific fact check, have developed the ability to synthesis and test information it takes a judge, at least 2 adversarial parties, experts, a few years prep and a hearing to determine in the real world.

Again though, what does the judicial system have to do with assessing medical information?

If I want experts on a legal matter, I'll talk to a lawyer.

If I want experts on fixing a car, I'll talk to a mechanic.

If I want experts on immunisations, I'll talk to ATAGI.