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Good article in The Age.

 
Good article in The Age.

That is a good article although there is too much emphasis on the Kelly trade. Clearly the club wanted Kelly and also tried to do the right thing by him in getting him back to WA. The fact that they paid overs for him is down to Geelong's stubbornness but also our lack of backbone in negotiating at the moment. There have been two instances of us trading down the list to accommodate other clubs and the Brander situation was a disaster in anybody's language. Given that the first trade for Kelly failed and he had to wait a year, despite the fact he had legitimate family reasons, WCE could have just offered 1 first rounder plus maybe a late second round swap. If refused, Kelly should have gone to the pre season draft as many other players have done.

On another subject can anybody tell me why AFL.Com is not simply called Barrett or Damo opinions? I've never seen a so called official site so destructive and based on the opinions of 1 man.
 

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Slobbo just can't let him go.

Jeeeesus, he single handedly saw off Woosh and now he's after the replacement? AFL media is so cooked. I got an ESPN email this morning with the subject speculating whether Noble would be next Coach to fall.. **** doing that job hey.
 

Interesting from Kingy. Scores tied and you're kicking for the lead, stats suggest you're better off dobbing a point and locking it in your forward line than kicking a goal and handing the oppo a 6-6-6 centre bounce scenario to score themselves.

Also of interest is that the team kicking out is twice as likely to concede a score than to score themselves from a kick out. Maybe we're not alone in our woeful kick out tactics.
 

Interesting from Kingy. Scores tied and you're kicking for the lead, stats suggest you're better off dobbing a point and locking it in your forward line than kicking a goal and handing the oppo a 6-6-6 centre bounce scenario to score themselves.

Also of interest is that the team kicking out is twice as likely to concede a score than to score themselves from a kick out. Maybe we're not alone in our woeful kick out tactics.
Kingy just likes to think he has found some sort of genius loophole

I cant actually see a player, ever, nearing the end of a close game, rationalizing to himself in that split second to kick a point instead of a goal.

WHat if he tries kicking a point and it goes out on the full?
 
Yeah it’s got to be some misinterpretation of stats shit. I doubt King is a stats genius

He tries, but he's really just reading off a sheet that's been given to him that he doesn't really understand completely.
 
They use Robbie Gray kicking a point at the end of Port Saints as their example, ignoring the fact that the Saints scored a behind not long before that
 
Yeah it’s got to be some misinterpretation of stats shit. I doubt King is a stats genius

Issue for me is that his “scores from kick-in” stat will be from the whole game, so a large portion of them will be dinky kicks to the pocket.

In the situation he’s talking about, the kick-in will probably go straight down the middle as far as possible. It’s a different proposition, which will probably involve a higher turnover rate but also a higher chance of scoring.
 

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He tries, but he's really just reading off a sheet that's been given to him that he doesn't really understand completely.
Also so much of stats is just correlation which doesn’t prove anything. But sports talk is always about trying to find some sort of magic explanation for differing performances
 

Interesting from Kingy. Scores tied and you're kicking for the lead, stats suggest you're better off dobbing a point and locking it in your forward line than kicking a goal and handing the oppo a 6-6-6 centre bounce scenario to score themselves.

Also of interest is that the team kicking out is twice as likely to concede a score than to score themselves from a kick out. Maybe we're not alone in our woeful kick out tactics.

Not so sure about going into individual circumstances such as that, but those statistics generally do underscore just how dominant forward pressing has become over the last two seasons.
 

Interesting from Kingy. Scores tied and you're kicking for the lead, stats suggest you're better off dobbing a point and locking it in your forward line than kicking a goal and handing the oppo a 6-6-6 centre bounce scenario to score themselves.

Also of interest is that the team kicking out is twice as likely to concede a score than to score themselves from a kick out. Maybe we're not alone in our woeful kick out tactics.

Maybe not, but is any team as bad as us at locking it in our forward line?
 
Maybe not, but is any team as bad as us at locking it in our forward line?

I doubt it. But hopefully we are trending in the right direction for that. Last weekend we had 12 inside 50 tackles, equal to Melbourne but despite half the inside 50s to begin with.

We only exceeded 12 inside 50 tackles twice during 2021 and it's only our second time in the double digits in 2022 (the other game against Fremantle).

I know that's not a comprehensive analysis as you can't tackle if you mark it inside 50 but I'll take the glimmer of hope.

Port had almost 30 for the game against us this year. Wild.
 
Also so much of stats is just correlation which doesn’t prove anything. But sports talk is always about trying to find some sort of magic explanation for differing performances
The overriding stat is that if you kick the goal you are less likely to lose as a point is easily beaten if the opposition simply kick a goal. The goal also puts more pressure on them as they have to score a goal just to get it back to a draw
 
Yeah it’s got to be some misinterpretation of stats shit. I doubt King is a stats genius
Not saying I agree with his idea but he has always been all over stats. He is a stats nerd. We had him visit Vietnam many years ago for an AFL grand final and I spent a couple of days drinking with him. Stats was his thing then (not that long after he retired) and he knew what he was talking about.

That said, stats are gibberish to me so maybe I was just easily impressed through complete ignorance.
 
I found this headline interesting.

Seems the board at Bomberland need to involve themselves in coaches match plans.

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Now, I don’t know who is on Bombers board but this does seems like an over-reach on the part of the board.
 
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