Toast Tom Atkins - Premiership Player - 100 games

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Yes. I cant see us winning a flag with Atkins playing midfield.
Hes our Maciintosh from the Tigers.
Hard as, not overly skilled... but does the team stuff that allowed Dusty to not look defensive.
And it makes a good team greater.

We'll just disagree on this.

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I mean I can't see us winning a flag this year or next, but I'm not putting that on Atkins playing midfield

In a way , I agree.. in way I disagree. That Atkins is playing in our midfield says something about other options. If we had better options would he be playing? He is 27 in Sept and is the zone and age we desperately need and he has moved to the guts ... its our list and need that says something about our chances. Maybe Atkins as a blood and bone type still gets a game with an Ablett and a Bartel and Corey etc.. or maybe he finds another role like Rooke. As far as in our best 22..flag etc. Id say in every flag side there are players who are lucky to a degree and are just in the right spot at the right time, there are also players that bring more than their apparent talent would seem to add.. there are lots of reasons why he might still be in a flag side... I doubt he would have been out of sorts in the Melb side last year or Richmond at their best.

Its not so much that we cant win a flag with a player like Atkins..its that those around him are probably not up to it. Him playing in the midfield is a tell..we have have failed to refill our midfield with 24-28 years olds.. and now we are scratching at the edges, We have tried MOC, now Atkins .. I think our next try will probably be bringing in a player. Meanwhile Tom will give us everything he has. .. and he is still getting better. 69 games .. and it would seem he is one the way to 100. Great outcome for a guy who has done it the hard way.
 
In a way , I agree.. in way I disagree. That Atkins is playing in our midfield says something about other options. If we had better options would he be playing? He is 27 in Sept and is the zone and age we desperately need and he has moved to the guts ... its our list and need that says something about our chances. Maybe Atkins as a blood and bone type still gets a game with an Ablett and a Bartel and Corey etc.. or maybe he finds another role like Rooke. As far as in our best 22..flag etc. Id say in every flag side there are players who are lucky to a degree and are just in the right spot at the right time, there are also players that bring more than their apparent talent would seem to add.. there are lots of reasons why he might still be in a flag side... I doubt he would have been out of sorts in the Melb side last year or Richmond at their best.

Its not so much that we cant win a flag with a player like Atkins..its that those around him are probably not up to it. Him playing in the midfield is a tell..we have have failed to refill our midfield with 24-28 years olds.. and now we are scratching at the edges, We have tried MOC, now Atkins .. I think our next try will probably be bringing in a player. Meanwhile Tom will give us everything he has. .. and he is still getting better. 69 games .. and it would seem he is one the way to 100. Great outcome for a guy who has done it the hard way.
Tigers won flags with McIntosh.... we could with Atkins - not likely as the teams are different but if we dont I dare say Atkins wont be the reason

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Most flag teams don't have a bottom 6 player getting so many midfield minutes
Not true, most have a similar guys running around who goes through the midfield.

James Harmes, Marlion Pickett, Marlion Pickett, Mark Hutchings, Jack Graham, Clay Smith.
All guys with at a similar level who give gave their side some crucial midfield time throughout their campaigns.

I have a few guys on my "you can't win the flag with him" list, but not Atkins.
 
Proving to be a very versatile player - fixed up our ground ball gets in defence last season , now bolstering a depleted midfield.
Making the absolute most of his ability, puts his head over it every time and won’t die wondering✅👍
 

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Amazing how much a player can improve when given the opportunity in the position he was drafted playing. (Understand than most are drafted as midfielders)
It’s more than that though. He has been great in all kinds of roles this year. It seems to be a case of a player adjusting well to the pace of the game and recognising his limitations.
 
It’s more than that though. He has been great in all kinds of roles this year. It seems to be a case of a player adjusting well to the pace of the game and recognising his limitations.
Agree, but his last month has seen Further improvement.
 
Totally… deserves all the kudos he’s getting… we don’t win that game without his efforts. Not a high ceiling player… but has drug his above where many thought it could exist.

Some call plodder… and sorry IMO they are DEADSET wrong

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Tom Atkins wants to win the ball more than you. Fact.

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Totally… deserves all the kudos he’s getting… we don’t win that game without his efforts. Not a high ceiling player… but has drug his above where many thought it could exist.

Sone call plodder… and sorry IMO they are DEADSET wrong

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I just love how fierce he is.

Not the most talented, doesn't pretend to be, but my oath he's got some tenacity in him.
 
I just love how fierce he is.

Not the most talented, doesn't pretend to be, but my oath he's got some tenacity in him.
there is an aire of an old 33 about him...
Knows he aint the best so hes gotta outwork you.... and he might not do it everytime... but it wont be questioned about if he tried his all

Perfect example.... what catempire posted above.

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I seem to recall Scott being pilloried by at least one poster for throwing Atkins into the centre in the second half of the prelim last year. He was far from disgraced then as well. Petracca ran past him, as he ran past all our players. Guthrie was clearly unwell so we needed someone else in the midfield.

It'd be good to see the coach get credit for the move now, but I guess that's too much to ask from some on here.
 
Completely turned me around this guy. What a *en gem.
When you've been critical of him in the past I never understood - I rate your evaluation of players - so I watched closely and still couldn't see why you didn't rate him.

Every team needs a player like Atkins. What he's starting to do more of is win those 'burst' possessions in the contest. By burst I mean win the hard ball and burst away.

He's having a fine season.
 

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