Coach Alastair Clarkson III - new NMFC senior coach until at least end 2027 - NMFC board approved AC to start 1/11 amid ongoing HFC racism investigation

[Samsquanch]

As it's now clear that a certain person is no longer on the Orangutan campaign (and she probably knows by now who I'm talking about) here is an alternative to inspire the administration, players and coaching staff at North Melbourne...

PS: These are one kind of monkey that I've never been bitten by.

 

[rickety]

A waste of time?

Yeah I know, just thought he mighta been tired of smoking

 

[Merlin007]

Yep Clarko will join him as well - still hearing it’s on for Nov 1.

Assuming it's correct, this is a bad, bad mistake. When you're involved in a process of this nature, never give the complainants an opportunity to challenge the integrity of the process, because it only makes getting to the merit more difficult. Further, the review panel will look at akin to contempt of their role.

I hope Peter Gordon has the good sense to intervene; and so imo, should Sonja Hood.

 

[Event Horizon]

Assuming it's correct, this is a bad, bad mistake. When you're involved in a process of this nature, never give the complainants an opportunity to challenge the integrity of the process, because it only makes getting to the merit more difficult. Further, the review panel will look at akin to contempt of their role.

I hope Peter Gordon has the good sense to intervene; and so imo, should Sonja Hood.

Absolute rubbish. Has he been found guilty of anything? It’s good for his mental state to get back to work. It has nothing to do with 10 year old allegations.


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[Devington]

Assuming it's correct, this is a bad, bad mistake. When you're involved in a process of this nature, never give the complainants an opportunity to challenge the integrity of the process, because it only makes getting to the merit more difficult. Further, the review panel will look at akin to contempt of their role.

I hope Peter Gordon has the good sense to intervene; and so imo, should Sonja Hood.

IMO we can manage fine without Clarkson on site until after Christmas. I just have no faith it will be sorted by then.

There's going to be some difficult decisions.

 

[BigRedRoo]

What is herbal tea?

Its like Coffee without any of the joy or happiness attached.

 

[KickItAnywhere34]

Assuming it's correct, this is a bad, bad mistake. When you're involved in a process of this nature, never give the complainants an opportunity to challenge the integrity of the process, because it only makes getting to the merit more difficult. Further, the review panel will look at akin to contempt of their role.

I hope Peter Gordon has the good sense to intervene; and so imo, should Sonja Hood.

Garbage - he’s not been found guilty of anything and will participate when required with the inquiry.

 

[KickItAnywhere34]

Assuming it's correct, this is a bad, bad mistake. When you're involved in a process of this nature, never give the complainants an opportunity to challenge the integrity of the process, because it only makes getting to the merit more difficult. Further, the review panel will look at akin to contempt of their role.

I hope Peter Gordon has the good sense to intervene; and so imo, should Sonja Hood.

And what is your opinion on Fagan who is doing the same. Glad you’re not on the jury.

 

[Devington]

Bit harsh KIA, he's just giving his appraisal on how the panel will view things. No judgement call on the actual allegations itself.

 

[Rooniversity]

Just thinking about all the dramas that have come with being a North Melbourne person for however many years. There've been some amazing times but some of the crazy stuff we've been through, on and off field, would break feebler types. A settled stretch of steady improvements surely can happen, it must happen, and it will happen. We just need to get through this bit somehow.

This is also a kind of a Ted/pep talk to myself to pull myself together, ffs.

 

[the big lebowski]

I believe all the accusers will stand down from their jobs until the investigation is complete

 

[Event Horizon]

Bit harsh KIA, he's just giving his appraisal on how the panel will view things. No judgement call on the actual allegations itself.

Why would the panel have an issue with a person who 100% denies the allegations getting on with life while they undertake their review? How does this affect this case and their process?


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[Devington]

Why would the panel have an issue with a person who 100% denies the allegations getting on with life while they undertake their review? How does this affect this case and their process?


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I assume there would be some level of implication that he doesn't respect the process. The people on the panel are still just that, people, and we're all flawed and filled with biases.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Assuming it's correct, this is a bad, bad mistake. When you're involved in a process of this nature, never give the complainants an opportunity to challenge the integrity of the process, because it only makes getting to the merit more difficult. Further, the review panel will look at akin to contempt of their role.

I hope Peter Gordon has the good sense to intervene; and so imo, should Sonja Hood.

As I said earlier, it’s already compromised enough because everyone knows the AFL‘s default approach is to deflect and diminish anything negative. I don’t think it’s appropriate for anyone to act as though the outcome is assumed before the investigation team has had time to even start its work and reassure everyone past that serious allegations will be investigated fairly and thoroughly.

 

[giantroo]

AFL tells clubs to have Indigenous staff present at pre-draft interviews​

Jake Niall

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The AFL has asked clubs to have an Indigenous specialist present when they interview First Nations youngsters at the upcoming draft combine.

In a memo to the 18 clubs, the AFL “highly recommended” that the clubs have their Indigenous player development manager with recruiting staff when interviewing First Nations players at the draft combine, which begins on Friday and continues on Saturday and Sunday.

In what is clearly a response to the fallout to the Hawthorn scandal involving alleged mistreatment of First Nations players and their partners, the AFL told the clubs that they should have their Indigenous player development manager – or another First Nations member of staff – on the interview panel for Indigenous draft prospects.

In the memo, the AFL’s talent operations lead Roger Berryman and wellbeing and prevention projects manager Nicky Couston told the clubs that including Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander representation on the interview panel “is to support the cultural safety for all involved in the interview”.

The AFL also advised the clubs, via the memo – which was issued just before the draft combine – that if they did not have an Indigenous staffer available, then the AFL would provide the clubs with one. “The AFL is able to provide a representative for the players,” it said.

“The group of First Nations players will be represented and supported by the AFL staff throughout the event,” the memo said of the draft combine, in which list managers, recruiters and club psychologists/psychiatrists interview the teenagers they are interested in drafting, while the players also undergo tests of their athletic prowess, measuring their speed, endurance, spring and agility.

Sources familiar with past draft combines, formerly known as the draft camp, said the AFL’s recommendation – a virtual mandate to have the Indigenous expert present in interviews with First Nations teenagers – was unprecedented and a measure of the AFL’s increased awareness of the risks of non-Indigenous officials mishandling a young First Nations player.

A number of Indigenous players will be at the draft combine, including Alwyn Davey

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

jnr – an Essendon father-son recruit who is highly regarded. More than 10 per cent of all current AFL players have Indigenous backgrounds, with the clubs now required to have an Indigenous staffer in the football department.

The Hawthorn scandal prompted the AFL to set up a four-member panel to investigate the allegations contained in Hawthorn’s cultural safety review and first aired by the ABC online. The most serious allegations were levelled against then Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson, then football operations boss Chris Fagan and then Hawthorn welfare manager Jason Burt.

 

[Devington]

It begins.

 

[giantroo]

Clubs won't bother with indigenous players now.

 

[leighlee13]

Clubs won't bother with indigenous players now.

It certainly may be viewed as coming with risks now given the current situation and I am sure there might be some hesitancy by clubs. Its a shame as they are great to watch. They have skills others just don't.

 

[Devington]

Clubs won't bother with indigenous players now.

I'm not as pessimistic on this, at least long term. In the short term I think there will be far less speculative picks used, but the known qualities are probably just as safe, however kid's gloves will be used. Long term I think (hope?) the AFL has better HR/Welfare mechanisms in place so that coaches aren't accidently(?) overstepping boundaries regardless of race etc.

 

[Themanbun]

Clubs won't bother with indigenous players now.

Sorry mate but I respectfully disagree. I think this is a good approach. It's pretty common practice to have someone like this present when First Nations people have interviews with authority figures.

 

[Devington]

Sorry mate but I respectfully disagree. I think this is a good approach.

Personally I think that eventually they will just have a social worker or someone with similar welfare credentials sit in on all this stuff for all draftees. Some of the stories you hear about the interviews are so stupid and arse backwards in regards to what is asked and said.

 

[Farthers]

Clubs won't bother with indigenous players now.

I think the result of all this is the potential that clubs will be less likely to take risks on certain players who may be perceived to be in an unsuitable environment First Nations or otherwise (re. Dane Swan, Dusty etc).

 

[Kanga1996]

Clubs won't bother with indigenous players now.

It will definitely be a consideration now.

 

[giantroo]

It certainly may be viewed as coming with risks now given the current situation and I am sure there might be some hesitancy by clubs. Its a shame as they are great to watch. They have skills others just don't.

I'm not as pessimistic on this, at least long term. In the short term I think there will be far less speculative picks used, but the known qualities are probably just as safe, however kid's gloves will be used. Long term I think (hope?) the AFL has better HR/Welfare mechanisms in place so that coaches aren't accidently(?) overstepping boundaries regardless of race etc.

Sorry mate but I respectfully disagree. I think this is a good approach.

I think the result of all this is the potential that clubs will be less likely to take risks on certain players who may be perceived to be in an unsuitable environment First Nations or otherwise (re. Dane Swan, Dusty etc).

It'll be interesting to see what occurs from now on.

 

[blisk]

Know someone who went through the draft process and was drafted in the late 2010's. Pre draft during a AFL sanctioned seminar the group was told in no uncertain terms that if any of the boys currently had partners that they should seriously reconsider for a couple of years because "most girls are only around for one thing"

First nations or not, you can see how scorned partners might have felt....