Player Watch Rory Sloane - Retired

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Think we have to and will, we all love and respect Rory but this young developing team is not needing an older statesman now, it needs the youthful dynamic champion in the making who’s body allows him to lead by example and is quite frankly our best player. With the new sub rule Rory may be an ideal option .
If the writing was on the wall at draft time it should have at least been in the coaches notebook when in Rankine’s first interview he made special mention of Dawson being the one who was in constant contact with him before he arrived at the club to help him settle and deal with the media re moving , I made mention at the time this was captain type behaviour.
Yep Dawson has been fully invested ever since he arrived and also seems like he works closely with Nicksy
 

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If Phil Walsh was still around what would he do?

Well, Sloane probably would never have been captain, but I digress.

Tex was given the job because he was the only one in an interview with Phil who prioritised others and spoke of how can we improve as a team.

Rory needs to see the writing on the wall and concentrate on his own game. If he is good enough to play then he is picked. He cannot put pressure on the Club to force them to pick him just because he is the captain.
 
If they're "leaving it up to him" then Sloane will still be captain but the club also has to put in Dawson as co-captain for 2023 before Sloane limps of into the sunset end of year.

Can't have a sole captain when you don't even know if he'll get on and stay on the park, let alone whether he can still cut it at the level. He was in decline before the knee
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s joint captains for ‘23, at this point. Sloane/Dawson

I wouldn’t like it, but I can see it happening

I think if you were framing a market this would be the clear favourite.

We can look forward to every Crows interview in 2023 being about Doedees contract and Rory's form.
 
Having joint captains is pointless as it doesn’t take away the issue of dropping your captain

having joint captains will be seen as a spineless move to appease the apricot slice brigade and not upset Rory.

This is a defining moment in our way forward.
 


is that the out being offered to Rory. He's on record as wanting to continue, but perhaps this allows him to 'choose' not to. Worth noting that Tex couldn't be more wrong, the decision should not be left to Sloane in any way.
 
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having joint captains will be seen as a spineless move to appease the apricot slice brigade and not upset Rory.

This is a defining moment in our way forward.
Rory (1 last Year and not guaranteed a spot in the side) or either Doedee or Jordan
So So Ok GIF by Rosanna Pansino
 
If they're "leaving it up to him" then Sloane will still be captain but the club also has to put in Dawson as co-captain for 2023 before Sloane limps of into the sunset end of year.

Can't have a sole captain when you don't even know if he'll get on and stay on the park, let alone whether he can still cut it at the level. He was in decline before the knee

But the entire club is in such awe of him that they couldn't even bring themselves to select a single acting captain through his injury. It just wouldn't be showing him anywhere near enough respect. And this is the guy that described Rob ****ing Chapman as the "godfather and protector" of our club.
 
Having joint captains is pointless as it doesn’t take away the issue of dropping your captain

Hopefully we're mature enough to at least not keep playing him with a busted finger, banged up knee, sore shoulder and any of the other performance inhibiting factors that he normally takes the field with. That said, I don't think he should play SANFL. If he's struggling, use the injury recovery to take a couple of games off, hit the bench with the cans on, and return via the sub role. They're not going to dump him to the 2s like they would a Sog, TT, Fog et al, it's pointless expecting it. I'd just be really happy to see him given an opportunity to perform, but if he's nit doing it, we freshen him up and give him another crack 3-4 weeks later.
 
having joint captains will be seen as a spineless move to appease the apricot slice brigade and not upset Rory.

This is a defining moment in our way forward.

i wouldn't worry too much, I don't think the key decision makers will last that much longer anyway. Nix is the last crack before Roo is done and I expect Kelly goes with him. But you're right, it's these choices that are made that tell us that a coach has the ruthless edge required to win a flag. Nix hasn't made a tough call yet.
 

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Rory (1 last Year and not guaranteed a spot in the side) or either Doedee or Jordan
So So Ok GIF by Rosanna Pansino

i honestly doubt he'd be dropped to the SANFL, regardless of captaincy or not. If he's not right for a few round in, he might start there in a tune up or 2. But there's no way whatsoever that he gets dropped from the 1s to the SANFL. It just won't happen.
 
i honestly doubt he'd be dropped to the SANFL, regardless of captaincy or not. If he's not right for a few round in, he might start there in a tune up or 2. But there's no way whatsoever that he gets dropped from the 1s to the SANFL. It just won't happen.
Happened to VB. Not sure if he was captain though at the time. Nicks should be under the Kosh this year so sentiment might fly out the window if the side or Rory are not performing.

Personally, I hope he has a good year and wins the B/F. But he shouldn't be captain. He should do a Boak and concentrate on performing at his best.
 
having joint captains will be seen as a spineless move to appease the apricot slice brigade and not upset Rory.

This is a defining moment in our way forward.

No it isn't. Its not a big deal. Sydney, Richmond, GC, GWS have co-captains. Alister Clarkson just appointed co-captains at North. If we go that route - that makes it 1/3 of AFL teams having co-captains.

IMO our defining moments happen at the end of 2023.
 
No it isn't. Its not a big deal. Sydney, Richmond, GC, GWS have co-captains. Alister Clarkson just appointed co-captains at North. If we go that route - that makes it 1/3 of AFL teams having co-captains.

IMO our defining moments happen at the end of 2023.

Are the captain's appointed to these roles at these clubs automatic selections in the best 22 though?
 
limps of into the sunset end of year.
I fear for Rory it could be before the end of the year. Knee re-co’s and old age (old in athlete years) often don’t end well.

Being captain will drive him to front up regardless of the state of his body and form. It could get ugly, or hopefully a year’s rest has rejuvenated him and he gives us a great year.

It’d be better off for him and the club if he didn’t have the captaincy responsibility and expectations that go with it.
 
I fear for Rory it could be before the end of the year. Knee re-co’s and old age (old in athlete years) often don’t end well.

Being captain will drive him to front up regardless of the state of his body and form. It could get ugly, or hopefully a year’s rest has rejuvenated him and he gives us a great year.

It’d be better off for him and the club if he didn’t have the captaincy responsibility and expectations that go with it.
It's a no brainer

Best for him and the club to hand it over

There'll be much harder calls we need to make. We can't screw up the easy stuff
 
Yup and so is Sloane.

You can debate whether he should be - but you can't debate that up until he hurt his ACL he was one of the first picked by Nicks.
Already moved out the midfield, there wasn’t enough time to gauge how he was going in his new role, the teams moved on, another year old and coming off a knee.

There is enough doubt there, he doesn’t need to be captain just like Tex hasn’t.
 
Already moved out the midfield, there wasn’t enough time to gauge how he was going in his new role, the teams moved on, another year old and coming off a knee.

There is enough doubt there, he doesn’t need to be captain just like Tex hasn’t.

Unless we have a void. Two possible captains have emerged (Doedee who could be leaving and Dawson).

If the club thinks Doedee is goneski and Dawson isn't the right fit - then why not just keep Sloane another year.
 
Unless we have a void. Two possible captains have emerged (Doedee who could be leaving and Dawson).

If the club thinks Doedee is goneski and Dawson isn't the right fit - then why not just keep Sloane another year.
Because there are enough doubts which I’ve just outlined. He is toward the end of his career, coming off a knee, lost his natural position. Other older captains who are healthy are stepping down, it’s the obvious move.

If Dawson is a co-captain, isn’t he the right fit?
 
Yup and so is Sloane.

You can debate whether he should be - but you can't debate that up until he hurt his ACL he was one of the first picked by Nicks.
That’s the problem though.
He was ordinary up until his last game where he started to look good up forward.
 
Because there are enough doubts which I’ve just outlined. He is toward the end of his career, coming off a knee, lost his natural position. Other older captains who are healthy are stepping down, it’s the obvious move.

Obvious move if we have a ready made replacement.
If Dawson is a co-captain, isn’t he the right fit?

If Sloane keeps the captaincy is Dawson not the right fit?

That’s the problem though.
He was ordinary up until his last game where he started to look good up forward.

Preseason will say a lot. The sample size on his 2022 was pretty small though:

Round 1: Poor
Round 2: Slightly better. Missed a last 20% of the game with an eye injury.
Round 3: Out with Eye Injury
Round 4: Poor
Round 5: Looked good against Richmond.

Name him Captain. Let him start the season in the ones. If performance dictates it have Nicks toughen up and bench him (a la Coniglio). If Nicks doesn't its another nail in the coffin and we can start 2024 with a fresh slate (new captain/coach).
 

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