Oppo Camp Jack Ginnivan (Traded to Hawks 2023)

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Spot on. And the booing and vicious abuse of Milne for years was also treated as a joke. Double standards really piss me off. Either it's wrong to target anyone or it's a part of footy and people should ignore it.
Wasn't really a pretty sight when Mick Malthouse mouthed the word rapist at Milne during the 2010 GF.
 
Malthouse was fined $7500 for calling Milne a "f...ing rapist", while Milne was fined $3000 for making derogatory comments about the Magpies coach's age.

The worst part about all this was Ed on TV insisting Mick used the word "pest" not "rapist".
Classic BS artist.
 
However good Ed was for us he came across as a used car salesman to me. Full of shite mate.
I liked Eddie. He was a man of the people. He spoke to me across a crowd because I was wearing a Collingwood scarf. He had faults - obvious and at times costly ones - but he was our Eddie. I can't even put a face to Browne or Brown, whichever it is.
 

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I liked Eddie. He was a man of the people. He spoke to me across a crowd because I was wearing a Collingwood scarf. He had faults - obvious and at times costly ones - but he was our Eddie. I can't even put a face to Browne or Brown, whichever it is.
Can't argue, GG.

I was a huge advocate for Eddie, having seen the positive effect he had on our club at a time of great need. At the time we needed big and bold initiatives and Ed was the perfect man to deliver that. His efforts resulted in the ultimate glory, and for that I will always be grateful. But, having seen the change that has been brought about with a 'changing of the guard', it's hard to argue that it was not time for Ed to go. Both men have their pros and cons and I am aware of what Browne has done behind the scenes that is directly and positively impacting our club's culture. Recent events such as Leon 'coming home' and the formal apology to Nicky Winmar may not have happened (I suspect) under any other stewardship. Browne has done a lot (often quietly) to build this club, something that I'm not sure any other President might have achieved.

Perhaps we got what we needed at the time we needed them, in both cases.
 
Can't argue, GG.

I was a huge advocate for Eddie, having seen the positive effect he had on our club at a time of great need. At the time we needed big and bold initiatives and Ed was the perfect man to deliver that. His efforts resulted in the ultimate glory, and for that I will always be grateful. But, having seen the change that has been brought about with a 'changing of the guard', it's hard to argue that it was not time for Ed to go. Both men have their pros and cons and I am aware of what Browne has done behind the scenes that is directly and positively impacting our club's culture. Recent events such as Leon 'coming home' and the formal apology to Nicky Winmar may not have happened (I suspect) under any other stewardship. Browne has done a lot (often quietly) to build this club, something that I'm not sure any other President might have achieved.

Perhaps we got what we needed at the time we needed them, in both cases.
You are saying that Browne was behind Leon coming home and Winmar getting an apology, but Lumumba snubbed him and told him to **** off from his personal space. If true that Browne was the man behind it all, then Lumumba is even less of a person for fobbing off Browne at the apology ceremony.
 
You are saying that Browne was behind Leon coming home and Winmar getting an apology, but Lumumba snubbed him and told him to * off from his personal space. If true that Browne was the man behind it all, then Lumumba is even less of a person for fobbing off Browne at the apology ceremony.
I'm not suggesting that Browne was solely responsible, but I do know that Browne visited Leon in Southwest Vic, without media or any entourage, and spent time with him to better understand Leon's personal position and perhaps the greater cultural paradigm at Collingwood overall. I strongly suspect that this was the catalyst for Leon's return and perhaps led to cultural changes such as the apology to Winmar, McAdam, et al.

I admit I was really non-plussed about Browne's appointment but it's actions like this that illustrate his work and personal contributions toward improvement, and he has earned my respect.
 
I'm not suggesting that Browne was solely responsible, but I do know that Browne visited Leon in Southwest Vic, without media or any entourage, and spent time with him to better understand Leon's personal position and perhaps the greater cultural paradigm at Collingwood overall. I strongly suspect htat this was the catalyst for Leon's return and perhaps led to cultural changes such as the apology to Winmar, McAdam, et al.

I admit I was really non-plussed about Browne's appointment but it's actions like this that illustrate his work and personal contributions toward improvement, and he has earned my respect.
I don't have any problem with Browne as president. It's just taken me a long time to learn his name and I still wouldn't recognise him if he walked through my apartment door with his hand thrust out asking to be shaken.
 
I don't have any problem with Browne as president. It's just taken me a long time to learn his name and I still wouldn't recognise him if he walked through my apartment door with his hand thrust out asking to be shaken.
Browne doesn't interfere with the club and doesn't seek the media spotlight.
Brilliant so far.
 
I liked Eddie. He was a man of the people. He spoke to me across a crowd because I was wearing a Collingwood scarf. He had faults - obvious and at times costly ones - but he was our Eddie. I can't even put a face to Browne or Brown, whichever it is.

Spoke to Ed a few times at Vic Park watching the VFL. Always seemed pretty genuine to me, always available to the masses who regularly harassed him for autographs and the like. Great sense of humor.
 
I liked Eddie. He was a man of the people. He spoke to me across a crowd because I was wearing a Collingwood scarf. He had faults - obvious and at times costly ones - but he was our Eddie. I can't even put a face to Browne or Brown, whichever it is.

He wasn't a man of the people by the end, he was all about Ed. He had to have complete power, and it seriously hurt the club and himself.
 

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