Coach Michael Voss

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Voss has turned a rabbley bunch of easy beats into a team with a positive W/L ratio. Now he needs the time due any coach to get rid of players who aren't up to that basic standard - players like Dow for example who are dead weight drags on salary cap and after 6-7 years in the AFL system under numerous coaches just haven't got what is required.
 
JustaBattler said:
Voss has turned a rabbley bunch of easy beats into a team with a positive W/L ratio. Now he needs the time due any coach to get rid of players who aren't up to that basic standard - players like Dow for example who are dead weight drags on salary cap and after 6-7 years in the AFL system under numerous coaches just haven't got what is required.
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Well 12-10 last year, but I think the 8.5 wins out of 20 games since is a fairer reflection of where we are at.
 

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BigLarry76 said:
Rome wasn’t built ina day people, voss is our man I was fortunate to meet him a fair few years back . Hands the size of baseball mits , o permanent stealy look o the eye he a great leader among men, could tame the likes of Pike at a whim, be patient friends our times coming
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Rome, like this rebuild, took about 800ish years from founding to peak, from 753bc to early 100ad
 
JustaBattler said:
Voss has turned a rabbley bunch of easy beats into a team with a positive W/L ratio. Now he needs the time due any coach to get rid of players who aren't up to that basic standard - players like Dow for example who are dead weight drags on salary cap and after 6-7 years in the AFL system under numerous coaches just haven't got what is required.
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Looking forward to watching you turn on Voss. Only a matter of time.
 
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The heat is ramping up, make no mistake. Cannot have a team of this calibre playing such poor football.
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Exactly this. As a coach you implement a game plan that maximises the ability for star players to influence games and for role players to contribute. At the moment our game plan, whatever it is, takes away most of our strengths. We’ve genuinely gone backwards from last year and I just find that mind boggling. Voss will last out the year but if this is the level and style he has us playing then he won’t last.
 

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Forget that second half. Or if you do remember it, also remember the pathetic collapse in the last 5 minutes, and then think back to the collapses in the last 5 minutes that cost us the season.

This is a team with the talent to win the premiership and we can't kick more than a goal in a half of football, cant kick 10 goals in a match. The structure is an utter mess. Players across the team have had their confidence shot. Our reserves can't beat the under 18s and are filled with players we once had hope for who look lost and disinterested. We have no idea how to close out games, and frankly, half th pkayers don't seem to care.

The ship is sailing on the careers of Cripps, Saad, Docherty... if we continue for another year of this you can add Curnow, McKay, Weitering to that list too. As much talent as we have had since 1995 and we are pissing it up against the wall.

I don't know the answer. Voss should probably have been moved on after the collapse to end last year. The writing was on the wall then and it is now. He is a nice guy but this team is balls at the moment and we have a lot of history that says we know where this is heading...
 
I'm a little numb after tonight, but does anybody think there was ever any way that Ed would be a good sub? Voss clearly has his favourites but in what way was Ed, a slowish mid with amazing stamina and at best average skills, ever going to be a good sub?

I get him being out coached by smarter guys, you can always make the excuse his heat of the moment decisions didn't work out. You can sko blame the players for not following the "gameplan" as well. But picking Ed as sub with a week to consider it is just ****ing dumb.
 
JustaBattler said:
Voss has turned a rabbley bunch of easy beats into a team with a positive W/L ratio. Now he needs the time due any coach to get rid of players who aren't up to that basic standard - players like Dow for example who are dead weight drags on salary cap and after 6-7 years in the AFL system under numerous coaches just haven't got what is required.
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You singled out Dow for being a dead weight drag on the salary cap......Well I'll raise you with Jack Martin, Mitch McGovern, Caleb Marchbank & Zac Williams.
Yes they have been riddled with injury but those 4 players are a massive weight on the salary cap and they have been poor value for money. It is the main reason why our salary cap is tight ( without even making finals ! ) and therefore why we were so passive in the recent trade period and may end up losing Tom De Koning.
 
incaciawin said:
You singled out Dow for being a dead weight drag on the salary cap......Well I'll raise you with Jack Martin, Mitch McGovern, Caleb Marchbank & Zac Williams.
Yes they have been riddled with injury but those 4 players are a massive weight on the salary cap and they have been poor value for money. It is the main reason why our salary cap is tight ( without even making finals ! ) and therefore why we were so passive in the recent trade period and may end up losing Tom De Koning.
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It is why I used the lead in word 'like' mate. All those blokes you mentioned were not Voss picks - none of them. The 'crazy' happened before Voss arrived as far as trade in 'stars' - and he has had no access to their 'talents' playing with a hand tied behind his back since arrival as far as injury goes and make uppy VFL players making up the numbers...lets add to the trade in fails - all the midfield draftee fails....
 
No point crying about Voss, he should have never been appointed. Feel sorry for the guy, but he’s just not a good coach.

Carlton board wanted a feel good guy to help with feel good agenda. That’s what we got.

No point you all bitching and whining about voss. It’s not his fault.


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BlackGoanna said:
No point crying about Voss, he should have never been appointed. Feel sorry for the guy, but he’s just not a good coach.

Carlton board wanted a feel good guy to help with feel good agenda. That’s what we got.

No point you all bitching and whining about the voss. It’s not his fault.


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Parko thinks he's a good coach.
 
Gointocarlton said:
Parko thinks he's a good coach.
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This might be the root of the whole problem

Football Director Greg Williams will head the panel, with fellow directors Tim Lincoln and Patty Kinnersly, club great David Parkin, CEO Cain Liddle and footy boss Brad Lloyd.
 
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This might be the root of the whole problem

Football Director Greg Williams will head the panel, with fellow directors Tim Lincoln and Patty Kinnersly, club great David Parkin, CEO Cain Liddle and footy boss Brad Lloyd.
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All need to go. What Lyon could have done with this list.

Voss truly is a pathetic coach. Teams going backwards in every possible way. Hope he is sacked sooner rather than later.
 

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