the AFL has once again let a star player off the hook by having their Match Review Officer within the Football Operations Department suspend the player and then the independent AFL Tribunal over-turning the decision because the AFL was wrong
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i don't have an issue with this specific decision, but how 'independent' do you imagine that tribunal is lolthe AFL has once again let a star player off the hook by having their Match Review Officer within the Football Operations Department suspend the player and then the independent AFL Tribunal over-turning the decision because the AFL was wrong
i don't have an issue with this specific decision, but how 'independent' do you imagine that tribunal is lol
Embarrassment? Players have always got off at tribunals.Given they keep over-turning the AFL's decisions to the AFL's embarrassment, I'm not sure the AFL is getting much out of a phoney independent relationship
And circa 10 years ago in the days of the MRP almost nothing got successfully challenged at the Tribunal. Now we have the MRO and the Football Ops Department constantly suspending players for actions broadly within the player safety/concussion area and the Tribunal over-turning it, often because the AFL hasn't fixed up their rule-book to actually line-up with what the Ops department is trying to do and so making the AFL look stupid. (it feels like often the fans think the AFL are stupid for reasons different to the reasons that the AFL have been stupid)Embarrassment? Players have always got off at tribunals.
Yeah the AFL must be real upset about MRO decisions putting AFL in the headlines early in the week and the tribunal putting AFL in the headlines throughout the week. How embarrassing. How stupid they are.And circa 10 years ago in the days of the MRP almost nothing got successfully challenged at the Tribunal. Now we have the MRO and the Football Ops Department constantly suspending players for actions broadly within the player safety/concussion area and the Tribunal over-turning it, often because the AFL hasn't fixed up their rule-book to actually line-up with what the Ops department is trying to do and so making the AFL look stupid. (it feels like often the fans think the AFL are stupid for reasons different to the reasons that the AFL have been stupid)
I'll give you the tip - they aren't avoiding headlines.but if anyone wants an AFL/AFL Tribunal Conspiracy, here's one: the AFL suspended Butters last week for that strike even though they knew it would be over-turned at the Tribunal because they wanted to avoid more headlines about the MRO looking after a Brownlow favourite
Which is why it's a fun conspiracy. It's certainly more fun than the idea that people have that the AFL is trying to protect Butters when they literally tried to suspend him.I'll give you the tip - they aren't avoiding headlines.
Yeah the AFL must be real upset about MRO decisions putting AFL in the headlines early in the week and the tribunal putting AFL in the headlines throughout the week. How embarrassing. How stupid they are.
Genuine question, because I don't follow this sort of thing.
But how or why would there be an independent body for suspension challenges? Why would the AFL have this and not an independent:
Umpiring department
Journalists and media have full access
Whoever hands out "bringing into disrepute" charges
etc?
Surely it's just another arm that's heavily AFL controlled and employed.
Geeze that's not like the afl to do that
As much as I love to shit on Christian, there's no connection to him here. Weid was VFL system so he wasn't involved at all and he cited both Wright and Danger. It was the appeal process that was got danger off.They're saying what was dangers alternative. Well what the **** was weidermans and Wright
Christian has to ****ing go
Sack the campaigner anyway!As much as I love to shit on Christian, there's no connection to him here. Weid was VFL system so he wasn't involved at all and he cited both Wright and Danger. It was the appeal process that was got danger off.
Maybe you could spare us your condescending holier than thou thesis.Spare me.
General media and public weighing in on medical matters is as laughable as it is horrifying people actually think their opinion should matter.
Most people are genuinely morons when it comes to anything medical or even health related, we are also ignorant of the types of things players play with at all times.
After sitting through a ****ing pandemic and listening to the uneducated masses and people learn basic hygiene and quarantine protocols I'll pass on being lectured to by people who think they can diagnose a player injury better than the Dr actually examining the player.
When you measure this through the lens of players playing through fractures, tears etc this isn't an isolated incident.
People saying "oh they shouldn't have risked it",
Sure, please keep that energy for all the other times a high level athlete pushes the envelope.
If the proper medical checks and processes were followed, and it appears they have been and were ticked off then uneducated people more focused on the actual extent of the injury rather than the actual process should back off.
The proper process can be followed and still miss things.
People play with fractured/cracked/broken ribs much of the time.
People push through things that in the cold light of day and long term health they maybe shouldn't, but that has been high level sport for a very very long time.
It's how we get legendary stories and moments.
If people are going to suddenly be up in arms about this because they actually care about player health then I'm very keen to see the absolute massive community change in how we treat people pushing the envelope.
Wide spread condemnation of players and medical staff playing through broken or fractured bones.
Not celebratory articles and news grabs after grand finals or big games applauding bravery.
But that won't happen, this is a high profile player suffering a fairly unique/different injury than your typical hamstring or broken leg and it's media airwave filler to make money, just as it is when they wax poetic about how brave a person is that they took the field with a fractured leg.
The absolute arrogance to lecture medical professionals on what they should have done.
I'm actually surprised we don't seem to have any imaging available, they use it in NFL to rule out breaks and many things before allowing return to play.
Though I assume that may have something to also do with the amount of painkillers they are on, pain as a measurement isn't useful when they can't feel things on a normal scale.
Theory confirmed. The Saga did indeed bring the game into disrepute, but not as much as Eddie brought the game into disrepute.This was posted on the main board
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Maybe you could spare us your condescending holier than thou thesis.
Medical staff are human. Not perfect. This is a clear example where they got it terribly wrong.
People in serious roles need to have their performance reviewed, learn from mistakes and if necessary be held accountable.
Competitors push boundaries but are not medically trained. The medical staff are there to provide medical input. In this case they got it majorly wrong.
Refusing to acknowledge this and perpetuate medical staff being beyond reproach is dangerous - if you don’t learn from errors, you repeat them.