Training Pre Season ‘25

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I swear this off season every thread has derailed from their purpose for tens of pages (more so than other seasons, somehow)

You should have seen it in 2015/2016 was awesome
 
No I said there’s no conditioning to prevent an ACL. Hasn’t been 12 months yet and due to the history they’d be taking a conservative approach, so claims they’re mismanaging him are just wrong
Im not saying he is currently being mismanaged, but i dont believe strength, conditioning and recovery have nothing to do with his circumstances. He had a right hamstring and follow on nerve issues in right leg plus right acl. All within 10 months of each other, with our former fitness guy overseeing that until 4 months ago.
 

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No I said there’s no conditioning to prevent an ACL. Hasn’t been 12 months yet and due to the history they’d be taking a conservative approach, so claims they’re mismanaging him are just wrong
Im not saying he is currently being mismanaged, but i dont believe strength, conditioning and recovery have nothing to do with his circumstances. He had a right hamstring and follow on nerve issues in right leg plus right acl. All within 10 months of each other, with our former fitness guy overseeing that until 4 months ago.
 
Im not saying he is currently being mismanaged, but i dont believe strength, conditioning and recovery have nothing to do with his circumstances. He had a right hamstring and follow on nerve issues in right leg plus right acl. All within 10 months of each other, with our former fitness guy overseeing that until 4 months ago.
None of that had anything to do with his ACL. If it was a reoccurring of the hamstring id buy it. But anyone can do an ACL and anytime regardless of conditioning. LOTW claims he had been mismanaged and I 100% refute that due to circumstances surrounding how ACLs are done and there is no preventative conditioning
 
No I said there’s no conditioning to prevent an ACL. Hasn’t been 12 months yet and due to the history they’d be taking a conservative approach, so claims they’re mismanaging him are just wrong
Rofl yes there is
 
None of that had anything to do with his ACL. If it was a reoccurring of the hamstring id buy it. But anyone can do an ACL and anytime regardless of conditioning. LOTW claims he had been mismanaged and I 100% refute that due to circumstances surrounding how ACLs are done and there is no preventative conditioning
Have no idea if he was mismanaged. However there definitely are preventative conditioning techniques to reduce the risk of acl injuries. There is debate about how much that risk can be reduced.
 
You can't condition ACLs when i was growing up was that sort off injury was unheard off and if one went off you really felt sorry for the dude. Now ohh well just another one. The AFL has caused all this making the game super fast play on hard grounds and clubs bringing on injured players just to prolonged it further than it would have been. They took away the beautiful long kicks and more importantly the beautiful marks to a game of keepings off. Sheedy and the AFL have a lot of explaining to do but I'm sure they can find a way to spin there way put of it.
 

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None of that had anything to do with his ACL. If it was a reoccurring of the hamstring id buy it. But anyone can do an ACL and anytime regardless of conditioning. LOTW claims he had been mismanaged and I 100% refute that due to circumstances surrounding how ACLs are done and there is no preventative conditioning
I disagree, but in terms of LOTW aka Lord shandy, he wouldn't know.
 
Hey all - I made it down to training this morning to take a look. They started about 9:20 - no public access for 'non-open' training but you have a pretty good view from the fence.

I'll post a few photos below of your forward and mid groups as they probably mean a bit more to you guys than me.

I have no pre-concieved views on any of these players so please take it as my views from a couple of hours only:

  • Forward group: The forward group trained right infront of me - it was a drill where one of the keys wrestled with a coach, and tried to bring the ball to front and center to the crumbing forwards. Tom Lynch seemed to train fully, unimpeded and was cleary the most mature. The younger guys (Faucett, Sims, Colina, Bauer) seemed to struggle a bit vs the coach. The small fowards were very zippy, chatty and the finishing was sharp (Campbell, Sonsie, Mansell, Rioli) - that said the intensity was relatively low and there was no pressure.
  • Midfield group: I was surprised that both Smilie and Lalor were in the midfield group - I thought I'd heard things about half back/half forward but they were both in there and didn't move. They did a drill where you'd recieve a handball and try to evade a tackler (and have a go at both). The clear standout was the way that Lalor approached the tackling - he gets low, and wide and is going to be a fierce tackler - looks like he's got the strength to really drive it home and make it hurt. When he was on the evasive side, he didn't really try to side step - more trusted his strength and hips to get through (think Rayner). Smilie tried to evade a little bit (not massively) and raise his hands high to keep his hands free (think Bont, Pendlebury).
  • Rehab group: Prestia, Hotton, Faull, McCauliffe, Young, Lefau. There was a nice moment where all the 30-40 fit players came over to cheer the rehab groups run throughts in a break.
  • Defence group: Was up the other end so didn't see anything. Balta was out there but wasn't with the Forwards.
  • They did some full field sprints - I think Tom Brown one the 2nd one, a bit hard to see the other others.
  • They they broke in to an almost full field drill - the highlight was Lalors cleanness and kicking. Not sure if it's been highlighted here, but I saw him take 4 varied kicks - all of which were drilled/weighted perfectly. I know he's strong, and clever but didn't realize he looked a very good kick as well. I also don't think I saw him fumble once - very impressed.
Any questions

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