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There have now been 100 completed seasons of football since the Bulldogs, Hawks and Roos joined the league in 1925 and (aside from some of the war years I believe) since there have been at least 12 sides competing for the Premiership. Prior to 1925, a few teams really cleaned up in the...

Our ruck division. Has the potential to cost us a Premiership.

Who hurt you?

Whilst I have a few doubts if they can win a flag with this group, they aren't old. Not even a little bit.

Putting All Australians, B&F finishes, Brownlow finishes and whatever other accolades to the side, I still say that Smith's output in the 2021 finals series was at a higher level than anything Kelly has ever produced. Did you actually watch any of his games? Because at that time he was widely...

Yeah agree. Not sure he's the right man for the job, but what would I know.

He was a very good player in the Geelong system when surrounded by absolute champions, who was shown up to be no where near good as people expected as soon as he left.

Whilst they are obviously different players, I would still say that overall, Smith is the superior player when comparing them both at their best. Whilst Kelly was a gun at Geelong, he was surrounded by champions and did not have to be the main guy. Whilst he has by no means been terrible, his...

I guess I know nothing about football huh.

How many picks did we receive for Kelly? What you say is true, but at the end of the day, Smith is still a better player than what Kelly was.

Pick 17 is still is absolute bargain for a player of his age and ability, if he gets back to even close to what he was in 2021.

Well they need to do something because this trade period has been the most draining of all time.

It's typical Mackie behaviour and it's bordering on embarrassing at times. If Wells was still running the show this would have all been sorted days ago.

I honestly think Geelong is being a little tight about Smith. Remember how much we demanded for Tim Kelly? I think Geelong should throw in a future 2nd or 3rd. I think he is worth that. Pick 20 or so by itself seems unders for a gun like Smith and is short changing the Dogs a bit I think...

I honestly think Geelong is being a little tight about Smith. Remember how much we demanded for Tim Kelly? I think Geelong should throw in a future 2nd or 3rd. I think he is worth that. Pick 20 or so by itself seems unders for a gun like Smith and is and short changing the dogs a bit I think.

If you don't agree that's fine, but the Port Adelaide argument against it isnt a very good one. Listen to uncle Col shut-down Rohan Connelly over this exact point @ 1.58.

Hang on.. what about the forgotten years? Should we not be starting from 1870? The real start date? 🤔 * current up to the end of 2022

Interesting historical stats about Melbourne and the Bulldogs (and Geelong). All time winning percentages in all matches: Melbourne 46.27%, Dogs 46.22%. Yet, despite this almost identical win/loss rate it is 18 GFs to 4, 13 Premierships to 2. Melbourne's win/loss rate in finals is 58.51%...

2025 LADDER PREDICTION 1.GIANTS 2. CATS 3. MAGPIES 4. LIONS 5. HAWKS 6. BLUES 7. SWANS 8. DOCKERS 9. BULLDOGS 10. BOMBERS 11. CROWS 12. POWER 13. SUNS 14. SAINTS 15. DEMONS 16. EAGLES 17. KANGAROOS 18. TIGERS GF GIANTS VS LIONS. PREMIER THE GIANTS

People saying GMHBA is better than the G? They must be trolling.

Cannot believe this thread is still going, nor how it was not moved to the bay long ago. The vast vast majority of Geelong supporters do not care about Richmond or their people. They are just another club and fan base like anyone else. Yes, Richmond have won 3 more Premierships than us and...

Try to think about something else for once.

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You seem quite caught up about the semantics of the word equivalent which I used. Whether it is the most appropriate term or not (probably not, now that I think about it), I was just trying to make the point that pre-VFL VFA premierships are the same as VFL/AFL flags in the sense that they were...

It comes back to the Col's point (which you obviously don't agree with) that the pre-VFL VFA premierships are essentially equivalent to VFL/AFL flags because they were won in the Premier competition of the day with most of the same teams which would go on to form the VFL in 1897. I don't think...

Not all heroes wear capes (or Geelong jumpers). Not always anyway. Would love for you to come with me to the next one. New dates will be announced soon. The man is fighting to get you another 4 flags 💪.

This is exactly what Col is arguing for. He does not want old VFA Premierships to be called VFL or AFL Premierships per se. He just wants those VFA Premierships to be acknowledged in their equivalence to VFL/AFL Premierships (as they were won in the Premier competition of the day with most of...

There were quite a few Premierships won via the challenge system in the early days. Those were the rules of rhe day which were the same for all clubs. It wasn't something which was only of benefit to Collingwood or other top clubs.

When should we start counting flags as legit then? 1961?

No one cares? Obviously they do, or it would not be such a touchy subject and people would not object so much to them being formally added to our Premiership tally. If you don't care about them, let us add them. You could still choose to not count them if you wished.