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I love Hirdy, always will but I think this was the right move...in part. Little and the board need to go. The players need to be free to stay or go as they please - if Carlisle wants to be traded then see you later mate and let's get some kids in return. I understand we can't move on until WADA...

Players looking at the journos like they want to smash them - Stants and Zaka particularly

You could just see his disdain for Barrett. Stupid campaigner

I forgot about Colyer, Myers and Hocking to be honest - but they are certainly part of my list to build on. Watson isn't sure he wants to play on and TBC needs a BIG lift to be useful

We can build around Heppell, Hurley, Hooker, Daniher, Zerrett, Jerrett, Edwards, Langford, LeVerde. Carlisle is a great unknown - seems happier down back but Hooker was AA last year there and Hurley a fair shot to be this year. If Fletcher goes, can we play all 3 back there, with Hooker playing...

Thankfully I was at the pools for the entire game and only saw the score when we left

Irrelevant how? He has done what we all want Hird to be able to do, coached a team to a flag. It means he made hard calls on players he thought weren't up to it, had a gameplan that worked and got his players to play for him enough to win a flag. He didn't make 2 GFs just because he had Judd...

Is there any other premiership coaches available right now who have a few years off and aren't burnt out?? I can't think of any

But WADA isnt going away as long as he is there. It will always be hanging over the club while he is coach. We need a fresh start

Hird's position has become untenable. He is too wrapped up in the WADA issues - we need a clean break. Grt Worsfold, if he will take the job, and start again. With a core of Hooker, Hurley, Heppell, Daniher, McKernan, Merrett, Colyer, Hocking we have a good starting point. Play as many kids as...

How much longer do we put up with this shit? I have never been more disappointed in the team and the coaching panel. Pathetic

Good signs that the cats just got belted and have to travel back from Perth??

Suck a dick Carlton!

This makes me so happy I can't put it into words. Watching this shit club collapse is amazing to watch!!

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McKernan has been good. Quiet that term but good overall. Gives a contest, good skills around the ground

Watson hasn't got a nose left on his face, McKernan got leather poisoning he held the ball so long, Thomas was up there so long before the ball he had a nap. ****ing bullshit

The crowd is dead on the TV....no noise at all

The only bright spot I can find so far is McKernan had been great so far

So they pay that mark but not McKernan??

WHAT THE ACTUAL **** ARE THESE YELLOW campaignerS DOING

We have dropped the soap and the Umpires are taking advantage!!

So apparently pu ching a bloke in the face when he is kicking is OK

Suck shit Boomer you little campaigner!!!

Yeah but he is only laying the tackle cause he has coughed the ball up moments before

Putrid. Dempsey needs to go. Yes he has pace but in the second half alone cost us 2 goals and coughed up chances for us on about 5 occasions. VFL for at least 4 weeks for me. Also what is up with Giles? Why can't he get a game??

I am gobsmacked. From beating Hawthorn to handling Carlton to then being made to look absolutely second rate by Collingwood. Heppell, Daniher, Hooker and Stanton can hold their head high. May be missing 1 or 2 but absolutely pathetic effort

Trouble now.

From what I can see, Daniher and Carlisle aren't sure who should lead and who should be the dummy when they both start in the square. Need to sort that out soon

Agreed. Looks lost today