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I'd argue that Collingwood's players definitely care about the rivalry. Our players just don't seem to have the fortitude to meet them half way.

It honestly feels like our history is more of a burden to the players than anything else.

Quiet quitting exists. Once the CFC rates a player they have to play extremely poorly to be potentially dropped. It's been an issue at Carlton for decades now. Brisbane last year we didn't even care if the named players were able to run out a quarter let alone the game. We even subbed out...

This might be a bit traumatic. Port have a history of kicking us while we are down at AO.

Last week was big good. This week was big poo. That is all I have to say.

Saints game was very late into the season?

Our awful team selection mid last season which killed our momentum sealed it for me. We consistently brought in underdone players till they broke down again. Waste of a season because of it and 2025 isn't looking any better. Form and fitness seem to mean sfa compared to the players name and salary.

We are just a C grade AFL team. Slow, poor footy IQ and awful skills by hand/foot. Malthouse's midfield which had Ed Curnow, Cachia, Mclean and Carazzo could beat our midfield at the moment.

Welp we suck.

Kennedy wasn't considered good enough for our midfield? Great stuff by Kemp though. Needed someone to stand up and kick goals tonight.

It's 2025 and VFL teams playing in the mud move the ball better than us. :poo:

One good quarter before going soft for three.....again. Least Vodafone's dog water net made me miss most of the game.

This thread is pure dopamine.

Well done Lions. One day......

Cerra probably wins our BNF last season if he didn't get injured against Collingwood. 2024 we can write off due to injury and poor management but I don't think he is a bust.

It's gotten to the point that you can "feel" the team switching off during games at this point. Hopefully we add some types who enjoy pummeling the opposition.

I'm not being critical because I think we are no hopers that's for sure. Teams stacked with talent and I think we should be the highest scoring by far if we get good luck with injuries. We can blow away a team in 2 quarters then suddenly drop off a cliff for an entire half. I hope our coaching...

A huge "win" considering we kick it 80% of the time to our KPF's after flooding our inside 50. We often had insane efficiency going inside 50 for a quarter or two before it would dry up completely too. I'd love to know what % of contests our small forwards actually won over the season.

If Walsh manages to have a preseason for once I think it'll be less of an issue. Attitude wise he does himself no favours by demanding the ball when he is in positions where prime Judd and Ablett would struggle to get a good kick off.

We are also terrible at halving contests in the forward line and making average/bad kicks look good.

Our forward line had a KPF who barely contested (Curnow) and the worst small forwards in the game. Durdin alone often took up our KPF's space to lead into and often contested them in the air too. Sam Walsh and Kennedy are average kicks that our structure and coaching made rancid.

Our clearance game peaked imo with Dow, Kennedy and Cripps last season. Cripps is king but Walsh is awful kicking inside 50 too and Hewett lacks hurt factor. Cerra we ran into the ground and now we are acting like Kennedy isn't good enough. In a final where we conceded the first 10 goals our...

Must be nice.

We badly need a mid or two with pace and I'd settle for even decent disposal. It got real old watching the ball get outside the contest and watching the opposition stream forward in numbers while Acres tries to defend 1v4. Our midfield is slow but our disposal is also shocking. I don't know how...

It seems insane to me that we would rely on Williams and Kemp to do that job though. A big part of the reason they were moved forward in the first place was because they weren't reliable enough in defence. Cincotta's form wasn't great but I can't imagine why he wouldn't be picked before several...

Our selections suggest otherwise.

Considering how often we let the opposition better players run around unopposed it didn't surprise me. How many clubs would let Nick Daicos run around goal side by himself in a close game....

I have nothing against Harry but he could've better spent his time at home instead of been forced to play with Motlop, Fantasia, Durdin and Williams.

No player in a team that goes 0-60 before scoring in any game deserves votes.

I just find it incredible that the coaching department turns it nose up at so many players. Geelong and Hawthorn regularly blooded youth even during their premiership years. Why did we try to force Cerra and Cottrell so hard to the point it broke them? Nobody can say that it was worth the risk...