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    AFL's Elite (According to Herald Sun Footy 16)

    How do you statistically assess a defender? In basketball you have + and - statistics, which still aren't perfect, and that's even more challenging to try and achieve in AFL. A defender could have zero possessions and minimal punches and have a great game. If Frawley gets zero stats in the...
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    AFL's Elite (According to Herald Sun Footy 16)

    Looking at the list, it seems to overstate the value of kicking accuracy compared to other stats. No Hodge for Hawthorn, but inclusion of Birchall, for example. Marc Le Cras and Hurn over Kennedy (WCE). Krakour over Ollie Wines (Port). No Swan at the Wobbles. I mean, obviously there are...
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    Talented players who never got fit/were overweight

    No Kangas fans suggesting Mick Nolan? Surprise, considering he was estimated to be 135kg when he played (although listed at 120kg).
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    That goal.

    Correct
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    That goal.

    And it is undisputed what is "that ball". Same as basketball has "the shot", and it is undisputed what shot it is.
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    That goal.

    Not even my favourite Buddy goal:
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    That goal.

    When I think of the phrase "that goal", it isn't necessarily your favourite goal, or the most skillful, it is the most famous/memorable. For me, that's the Malcolm Blight goal. Before my time, not my team, but that is the "that goal" for me.
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    Great AFL Quotes

    "You want a souvlaki, well, you'll have to impress me monkey" (said to a gorilla) - Kouta:
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    Besides GAblett...

    Actually, you will get some argument even about Plugger. Best FF of all time is one of the most hotly debated of all positions - even the two from that era (Dunstall and Lockett) people find hard to split, then you factor in Coventry, Coleman, Hudson....
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    Great AFL Quotes

    Cometti on Libba, after he copped one high: "He entered the pack optimistically, and left it misty optically".
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    The Hawthorn demise

    Completely agree.
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    The Hawthorn demise

    Except North Melbourne.
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    The Hawthorn demise

    I have no idea what game you are talking about.
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    The Hawthorn demise

    Birchall, Hodge, Lewis, Mitchell, Rioli, Roughhead played in both 2008 and 2015. That's a half dozen, so OP was correct. You can arguably include Sewell and Buddy in there too, as they overlapped into this era, but you still only get 8. Regardless, only ~1/3 of the list was there...
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    Well done to Geelong

    Why did you put "one of the worst if not" in there...? Clearly and unambiguously the worst.
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    Lake Harris

    You are correct, actually. There was an interview with Hodge where he talked about asking Adam Simpson the 'secret' to being able to keep playing after 30: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-21/whats-luke-hodges-secret?wb48617274=40A83B75 Adam Simpson said that his tip for being able to keep...
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    Quality recruiting

    He was injured most of the season we drafted him, disenchanted with where Port were at the time (I think even rusted on Port fans will admit the club had issues at that time, which were only really righted when Kochy and Hinkley came in), not playing to the level he had a couple of years earlier...
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    Quality recruiting

    Actually there was a lot of criticism that we paid overs for Burgoyne at the time. Captain hindsight tells us we are vindicated in what we paid for him - however, that was a complicated four club trade from memory. We lost pick 9 and sent Mark Williams to Essendon (hahaha), and sent the pick...
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    2015 AFL Grand Final - Hawthorn v West Coast, 2.30pm AEST, 12.30pm WA - Match starts pg 34 #835.

    Why the Cyril hate? He had an unbelievable game! True, there were three or four in the running - but seriously, in the first half, he was epic.
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    2015 AFL Grand Final - Hawthorn v West Coast, 2.30pm AEST, 12.30pm WA - Match starts pg 34 #835.

    No modesty. It's true - far out. I had you finishing bottom 8 before your defenders went down. Unbelievable effort! Just weren't here today. But that's experience.
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    2015 AFL Grand Final - Hawthorn v West Coast, 2.30pm AEST, 12.30pm WA - Match starts pg 34 #835.

    Congratulations to West Coast. You had an unbelievable season and played out of your skin to do as well as you did, coming from where you were last year and the injuries you had. Remember, Round 1 no one picked you to make the grand final, even your most hardened supporters. Supreme effort...
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    AFL players moving to American Football

    I thought about him. He's explosive but not the most agile. Relies more on power and rapid acceleration, not sharp lateral movements.
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    AFL players moving to American Football

    The difficulty is that the type of fitness required for AFL is completely different to the NFL. NFL is an explosive sport, whereas the modern AFL game rewards endurance athletes. Rugby is more similar to NFL obviously, but still has greater endurance requirements than NFL (but not as much as...
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    Lets talk about Hawthorns problems

    Hawthorn is plagued by motivation issues. Apart from the losses to Richmond and may be Sydney earlier in the year, they were all losses in games that the Hawks "should have" won. It's what Jonathan Brown talked about at the very start of the year - the difficulty when going for a third is the...
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    Coaching Staff Brendon Bolton - Senior Coach - Locked in until end of 2020 (23/5/18)

    Good appointment Carlton and good luck to BB in his new role. Now Carlton fans and administrators - do our boy a favour and give him time to implement a plan and rebuild. Be patient!
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    Bolton to be selected Carlton coach

    I just hope Bolton gets to spend the season with Hawthorn, then go across (assuming it's true, which it probably is). With Ratts likely affected (fair enough too) by recent events, we don't want to be two men down in the coaching box heading into finals. We've already lost quite a few...
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    Certified Legendary Thread Race for the flag, in squiggly lines

    You should like the comparison - lose to us this year, then dominate next year. Not like Eagles fans were expecting such an amazing performance from their team this year.
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    Certified Legendary Thread Race for the flag, in squiggly lines

    It's 1991 all over again. WCE and Hawthorn look like lining up against each other in the first round, and I have them meeting in the grannie too. WCE the young up and coming side, against the "too old, too slow" Hawks...
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    The Worst Football Jargon

    "He should have heard the Norm Smiths jangling". "He entered the pack optimistically and left misty optically". Just kidding, I love those.
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