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Can see WCE being interested. They have strength and power in their young midfield, feel they go for ball winners - Jagga, Draper - or some class in FOS.

Couldn't care less about his hit out ability - as long as he can provide a basic physical contest in the ruck. What matters is can he take a mark, kick the ball and move around the ground. From the little I've seen, he has that kind of potential.

He has all the tools - and importantly tools we need, speed and precise kicking - I feel what's held him back are injuries and the fact the Giants have always had a ton of his type of player. Even so, when fit, he's a best 22 player at one of the most talent laden teams in the comp. The hope is...

Playing reserves as a kid starting out is very different to playing reserves 6 years into your career.

We’ve had 2 years to look at that, where Rankine became a genuine star and Luko became a reserves player.

This is the best news since Port lost the prelim. Luko suits them perfectly, downhill skier. Giving up excellent draft capital for a netballer makes them weaker.

You understand that when you pull out random arbitrary time periods and examples of the exact pick 25, we all know you’re deliberately giving a specific picture to try and prop up an untenable argument? You know you’re not fooling anyone?

Sure I can. In fact, I just did. And every year, future champions are picked in the rookie draft. Pick 16 and above not being valuable may be one of the stupidest things I’ve read on here and that’s really, really saying something. In 176 games ANB has a single 1 game where he got Brownlow...

The early round trades are hard to get your head around after watching how the NFL does it. A solid but unspectacular 29 year old (when next season starts) like ANB would likely be around a 7th round pick or swap of picks. Early picks are given so much more weight. Giving up an early 2nd rounder...

Marcus Bontempelli sends his kindest regards.

I think there’s a very strong chance he actually goes 2 as well. If North want a bigger mid for their mix, has probably overtaken Smilie. If they want speed - which they don’t currently have with their young kids - might be Draper.

The only local lad we've taken in the top 10 in the past 15 years was Thilthorpe. Our list management team seem pretty focussed on getting Adelaide boys back home but Ogilvy and the draft team have never shown a penchant for local talent over others. Draper would be in the mix for sure but no...

That offer was on the table during the draft last year, no reason to think it wouldn't still be. Given we didn't take it then, we'd only take it now if there was an inkling he's going to head home at some stage anyway.

Perhaps Langford has become a victim of people wanting all draftees to be all things. Yes the 190cm ball winning, goal kicking, overhead marking beast isn't the most athletic player available. What do Nick Daicos, Marcus Bontempelli, Lachie Neale, Toby Greene and Patrick Cripps all have in...

This has nothing to do with Murphy or any other small forward. Do you think he was dropped over output?

Reading post after post comparing Rachele to Murphy strongly indicates to me that no one actually has anything valuable to say.

From ESPN's Jasper Chellappah: "Draper isn't made in the image of Scott Pendlebury, where time seems to slow and the path forward open up. He's more in tune with Patrick Dangerfield, a bundle of energy eager to explode forward at all times. Whether there's space to escape does not matter to the...

For real? The list is huge for off field 'selfish' actions. For on field, players dropped for poor efforts are probably not made public often. Remember Carlton making it public that they dropped Troy Menzel for 'lack of effort' during a game. Then we traded for him. That went predictably.

And they were eviscerated for it on this board. But everyone wants to find excuses for poor little Joshy, who is a regular repeat offender. If people want to have standards for some players and play favourites with others, then fine. Just don't pretend otherwise.

Danger was a skinny kid when he arrived - albeit as a 17 year old. Draper looks pretty solid to me for a kid and plays tough, with his speed burst out of the contest and attack on the ground ball, think it's a pretty decent comparison.

Anyone who's played the game knows the difference and no amount of window dressing can make up for the fact he's not prepared to put his body on the line like the other 21 players in the team are. And that's the problem. Doesn't matter what you or I say, his teammates know he lets them down...

There comes a point when enough’s enough and you have to take a stand to ensure growth and change. Rachele pulling out of contests and ducking out of marks all season - he would have been told repeatedly that is not acceptable at this level. Then, with the game on the line in a Showdown, he...

‘Universally rated top 2 pick’. Ok mate. Show me some evidence of that. He was in the group of players to watch. Still in Cal Twomey’s top 5 despite a drop off in form after illness. Jeez people are rough on these kids.

Not sure where this myth has come from. Smilie was the dominant player in the Coates league through the first half of the year - so much so that he became the only consensus #1 pick this draft has had. That cooled after he had an ok but not outstanding championships but he probably still leads...

Read the post I replied to for context.

Hilarious. Langford's way ahead of where Dawson was at the same point. Dawson was a medium forward who wasn't even invited to the combine, drafted in the 50s and barely played until his 4th season. Even when he was traded to us, he was a good not elite half back/wingman. Didn't become an elite...

He's also 190cm, not expecting him to be as agile and quick as the fleet of small mids that abound in this year's draft. I like that he's strong overhead - unlike other tall mids (Cripps, Smilie) who aren't good marks, just big. I'd still take Draper or O'Sullivan first but I think Langford...

I've seen no evidence that Luko has either the tank or the work rate for that kind of role.