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Yeah it’s a fair summation.

How do you know we will be compensated well?

Don’t know if I agree with this. I think after Dawsons last Swans season he was thought of very highly. Certainly higher than pick 18.

How would we get full value? He’s out of contract and will no doubt name a club. Dawson take 2. 🎬 wonderful. Only way this works out for both is if we win the flag and he walks for probably well unders. Or we don’t win the flag and get bugger all. And we could have got a swag if we had the...

No “training the house down” thread? Or I’m blind.

It’s not a curse, clearly Swans are training these kids way too hard. Learnt nothing. Just like playing injured players in the GF.

Thanks for the memories Chad.

I mean that’s obviously fair but we weren’t having a discussing about the entire draft. Anyway the long and the short of it neither of us will be right or wrong on Bowman for years to come. Anyway it’s good to have disagreement with decent discussion, and we both ultimately hope Bowen hits...

The fact you gave Stephens a pass says it all.

I didn’t call him a failure, where did I say that? I said he looks like a bust and as he’s playing now he doesn’t look great. You’ve completely ignored the fact we’ve busted on every first round since 2018 but I guess that doesn’t suit you’re narrative.

I agree with what you’re saying, he is taking time and Amarty, Wayward and McLean look bottom 4-5 for the most part. I think McDonald isn’t impacting as your would like as a pick 4, I would love to see a breakout in his 4th year.

Try reading what I said instead of melting down. I said he “looks like a bust”. Don’t say he WAS a bust.

I’ll concede that. Just looked. It’s a truly woeful draft.

A vast over reaction to say he was “brilliant”. He did some good things and had decent games. Of course he can be a good player, but odds suggest he won’t make it. With low disposal numbers and inconsistent performances to date. Our recruiters have been dreadful in the first round. What have...

It was one example. Anyone who can’t read between those lines knows F all.

I’ve no idea what you’re talking about.

Just need a prominent outside voice. I think they are too cozy and insulated for honest feedback and to act upon honest feedback.

I agree we def need a change. I’m not saying Cox would be a poor coach I just think given he’s overseen these grand final disasters, if he had the solution we’d have seen it.

Also that’s not his rankings, it’s what he was hearing. “Late mail”.

Off the top of my head, Espn and Fox had him outside 50 and Fox had him at 86. I guarantee you I’ll find way more estimates outside 50 than inside 30.

If it’s Cox we can probably expect more of the same. The club very comfortable with not being challenged by outside voices or direction.

Calm down? It’s just a difference of opinion, is that ok? He was ranked 26-30, by who? That’s just not true. He consistently ranked outside of the top 50 in mock drafts and rankings.

This guy at 26 seems more and more ridiculous given our needs and what was available at the pick. I really hope I’m wrong but I can let see this guy being more than a bit of a flash in the pan every now and then.

Ok cool that makes more sense.

This was a highlights package? Geez…

Low numbers, skinny, don’t like the pick.

No he wasn’t.

The club reeks of privilege that has in recent times morphed into arrogance and simultaneously we have shed any resemblance of Bloods culture. Instead of embracing and fighting adversity's and tough situations, we crumble and melt into an almighty puddle.

So why’d they play him? Common theme with a club that is incapable of learning a pretty straight forward lesson. It’s either arrogance, stupidly, naivety or a combination of all three.

You are right I don’t know, it’s just got that Dawson feel to it.