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Trading for a player only happens if player agrees - so you are investing not only in proven talent but do it knowing the player wants to be there. Trading for a pick is investing in promises of what they could be based on what they were. And that player has no choice so you risk losing them...

Happy to make a personal bet Nothing below 5 figures though.

Sorry what were our alternatives to accepting Greenwood offer?

Pass easily. Didn't get smashed on any deal. The only unders one was Greenwood but we had the least ground to stand on that one. Got rid of a lot of salary - doesn't matter we aren't paying some salary next year given they didn't get in the way of any recruits. Not Reid's fault no-one...

Would back Hamish in with that haul everytime. Anything top 50 is shooting fish in a barrel for him.

Dogs won't repeat the 2016 anomaly. Not even a top 6 list. If he thinks the dogs are getting a flag he is delusional. Saints are closer than the dogs.

There is no mass exodus you plank. Literally got rid of some crusty players and a couple of fringes walked. Keath could see the writing on the wall with Doedee and realisedhe couldn't play the intercepting role.

The dog campaigner can walk to the Suns. Said it before and will again, he will be booed and deservedly so. Scum.

The fact that you cannot see that SOS has murdered your list potential is amazing. How about that shopping list of shit ins. Carlton on the up is down to Cripps and Teague. Halfway through this year you looked doomed. Your saving grace from yet another shit trade is your board moving on the...

I see no realistic future that doesn't include the Crows winning the 2020 flag. It just will happen.

The fact that this thread exists and so many people bought into it is exactly the reason why journos keep linking every prick to an exit. Stop giving trash journalism the time of day. Except for Keath and Greenwood, everyone else leaving is a good thing. Neither Keath nor Greenwood are...

Reid looking like a donkey yet again.

Sorry but that is pretty stupid comparisons as neither scenario exist. That's using the most extreme examples of this type of thing - not usually comparable to more mild cases. Besides, we are in an industry where moving is remarkably easy (particularly if you tell your bosses to trade you...

I don't think you got the context.

Sometimes I wish it were so. On both counts.

Possibly yes.

I think I've seen and heard everything that's been produced so far. Falling for the PR spin is your problem not mine.

You absolutely asked me.

I guess if he isn't interested in debate and discussion, no.

You haven't shown me anything? Make a dollar

Then don't ask for it.

Ah so the fresh start he said he wanted had nothing to do with the camp fallout that he subsequently stuck on the record as being detrimental to culture etc (partof his reason for wanting that fresh start). Okay.

You couldn't actually provide solid evidence on either one of those points. Public domain? Show me (let me guesd youll go tell me to find them myself so that you can both avoid actually substantiating and stilltry to discredit me). Sanders is a walking thesaurus, nothing more. Don't fear his...

I agree with your assessment but that actually, as you touch on, points to a catastrophic failure of senior management. Had those at the top done the right thing at the time things may have been different. So why are we hanging the bloke who made the original error whilst trying something...

Common sense and a very nice jawline.

See above.

Ordinarily I'd make a spill about you not actually contributing to discussion and just making it personal but you just made it so darn complimentary i might let it slide.

It is amusing to watch you try to put down fast food workers as a means to try and put me down but I actually respect those in that industry. They have gone out and gotten a job and performing a service. But no, my talents lie in high performance leadership and finance.

Yet the commentary seems to all be around this camp, fueled by CEYs comments. That isn't helpful. What else has Burton done that is so drastic as to be worthy of sacking?

I've said nothing that isn't logically deductable. My theory makes entire sense.