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Fmd. Went from members, to a few, to a couple. Read my replies to Chief. Aboriginals are untied when it comes to standing against white man but within their groups there can be thousands of years of rivalry etc. How do we know that one group won't end up becoming disadvantaged in said system...

That's probably the resounding reason why. Many can't picture it in practice and where it sits in our system. We're just told it's the solution to the problem and to trust the system that hasn't even existed yet. I'd get behind it if it actually existed and showed proven results compared to...

No comment because you don't know or that's what was intended of the Voice? Come on educate the unwashed here. I'm genuinely curious where this body sits in the system. Pretty much. If you want to be fair, fork out the money for every mob in the country or not at all. Why is it a bad thing to...

Then don't vote governments who won't have a policy of keeping the legislation. And what if it's not working? Do we keep hitting our head against the wall? That's why I don't understand why constitution proponents are saying we can easily remove it via referendum. Yeah to the tune of half a...

The ****. The the voice is outside of this "top-down" system? Explain it it to me. I'll admit I'm ****ing confused. The pamphlet that I've read all summarised is that representatives are ELECTED, and they carry the communities wishes etc to parliament but they are still UNDER governance are they...

No...how do i put this lightly. You end up with the same ****ing situation we have today...many disadvantaged and unheard groups. Only at the cost of more taxpayer money being spent to pay these public servants.

Yeah I don't. Regardless, legislation of the Voice needs majority support. And nothing's stopping a majority government from repealing it but that should be seen as a good thing no? If it's doing what it proposed to do, it shouldn't have to worry about being gutted from legislation.

"Members" and "The Voice" is NOT detailed. Are you that naive to think the different groups will happily go along with electing someone outside of their mob to represent their mob? Or that they'll be singing kumbaya to eternity once the Voice actually happens? Lmao it's obvious you've never...

Alright smartarse

Then write in legislation that repealing it needs bipartisan support. Or is that too much common sense? Well lumping both under one question was a mistake then wasn't it. But no, blame the majority of the public for being racists and ignore the ineptitude of the referendum proponents.

I love it when we spend half a billion dollars like it's nothing. How about legislate it and put the money to better use

So it's not one suit but a multitude of people representing the different groups all across Australia? And you're happy to pay a public servants wages for these multitude of public servants that only serves 3% of the public? Not accounting thier expenses to bring said issues to Canberra? Last...

Remote indigenous communities in QLD, NT, WA ect don't need another Canberra bureaucrat lining their fat wallets. That money would be better spent helping the younger working age groups with learning trades, getting tickets etc and setting them up for life of independence. Actually helping to...

Holy hell, talk about throwing the toys out of the cot. 😆 we actually have a decent aboriginal community here in town, and even more so in our 52,000 km2 shire council area. Different groups based on the towns you go to in the shire. And being the gate way to the Cape, you experience those...

If you want to call "details to be worked on in the future" a framework, then by all means lmao. That's the most pathetic framework I've ever seen

Proposals Chief...proposals.

That who in their own right mind would vote for a blank canvas

I thought all people were equal. Why are we writing groups of people into the constitution and separating them from the rest?

A fancy lobby group written into the constitution? Yeah okay....

Um....Because you can have an aboriginal farmer included in said body. 😐 What happens if the Voice did get the go ahead and their 'advise' was ignored by the government? Should we expected a mature reaction to the response or will the rascit card be pulled out to push it through?

Proposals....plural. Meaning 1. It wasn't set in stone what we were voting for and 2. We still didn't know what the **** we were saying yes. And no I didn't bother. If there was multiple outcomes put to the table of what it was going to entail I was always voting NO. Because the Voice was...

Yeah because the Voice and its workings were never done up lmao. How unreasonable expecting me to oppose something non-existent, and then reject speculation? Why the **** did we have the referendum in the first place if everything wasn't done up front before hand? Don't expect the average...

How the **** can we give you details when we never got details about what the voice is all about? **** me dead. I said these industries are built on CERTAINTY. There was nothing CERTAIN about the details of the voice

Are ag and mining industries occurring in the air or on the land? Why the **** do you think the mining magnates were in the No camp? We have communities that are built and propped up by mines and farms. You really think a voice that has a say on the resource (land) they use won't affect these...

Because in an area where there's a small percentage of Indigenous voters in the voting population, you'd think everyone would be targetted no? I don't get why people are asking questions about what went wrong etc and then throwing labels like racism etc when shit like what I witnessed happened...

After the results? Primary industries rely on certainty not future speculation.

You don't see a problem with door knocking and asking if Indigenous residents resided on the property or in the area and then leaving if the answer was no? Never seen that question pop up during election at all. I thought the consensus was 80% of Indigenous voters were voting 'yes' 😆. Why did...

It's true where I live. Indigenous voters were targeted by door knockers from the 'yes' campaign.

We're driven by primary industries up here. Something different most definitely means the eventual death of our big primary industries and a negative change overall... no thanks

That's the voting of majority of Kennedy voters who have grown up around here. It's not skepticism when you see it happen year in year out