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Ok so you watch it and see a modern choreographed ceremony with some parts of 200 real cultures thrown into it? That's what I see aswell, So is it made up modern or traditional that is a incorrect impression? It's not a who but a what has this mistaken impression.

Sooo in other words its a Mistaken impression: a faulty or incorrect impression. We are back to the definition of lie.

Jeez you keep changing the story, now we are talking about the grand final. You have been proven wrong stop moving the goal posts. Since when was calling anything a lie suddenly a racist statement? And don't say it implies certain individuals because we have already covered that it doesn't. It...

You guys need to open up a dictionary once in a while. A lie: used with reference to a situation involving deception or founded on a mistaken impression. It is 100% a mistaken impression it was made up by Ernie dingo and his studio as a once off ceremony for an event. It was never done before...

Like I said you are struggling and it shows you are wrong and cannot admit it so throw out a link like it makes you right. A quick search of that webpage will quickly show you that it does not say anywhere that a welcome to country must be conducted by a elder.

You are showing you have no idea about Aboriginal communities and claiming a very wrong assumption that they are all the same and governed by the same laws you are wrong yet again. Along with making wrong accusations and like I said coming to your own conclusions I will repeat it for you again...

There is a serious skew in your comprehension on the matter. I have never inferred or said one thing about Aboriginal Elders, that is you coming to your own conclusion and putting words in my mouth. Which in itself is a very damaging characteristic to have and is part of the reason we can not...

This right here is the problem when someone says a fact that is different from the opinion of someone else they instantly label it racist it is not, it is a fact. I have not slandered the race I have criticized the made up act that is performed.

You are clutching at straws, I don't live in that community I visit every few months I have never been greeted that way. Only when I attend southern sporting events do I get greeted like this.Other Aboriginal communities are present at meetings and they also do not get greeted in this way.

Haha typical answer, calling a made up welcome to country a lie is not racist it's a fact. Who says it's official?? Its not official it's not traditional it's made up ie a lie. Are you going to answer my questions or continue to make things up?

Your suggestion is wrong, the communities I go to are the most traditional aboriginal communities left untouched by media and political/social agendas. I am trusted by these communities as I do not bring in Alcohol and drugs while providing free services such as internet, home appliances, phones...

Exactly what I mean why are we doing them? they are a divisive and a lie. Yes smoking ceremonies are traditional and have always been used but for different cultural reasons.

Simply because its a lie and divides the people of this country.

Are the welcomers still going to welcome the welcomeis if the welcomeis don't feel like getting welcomed ? It's a load of southern political shit. I have grown up in the Northern Territory all my life going to some of the most remote Aboriginal community meetings and have never once been...

Congrats on the win against the odds, against the umpires. Good on Hinkley for giving it to the biggest up themselves flogs in the AFL. Can't listen to Hodge have a sook anymore after a Hawthorn loss if it was the other way around would be laughing. Can dish it out but can't take it back. Now...

Wouldn't mind a crack at Jack Macrae who was a elite midfielder until Bulldogs acquired Treloar. Plays very similar to Treloar costs half the price can get a clearance. Starting as sub constantly would be a walk up start in our midfield.

Need to go hard for Peatling! Is the perfect addition to a future Daicos, Allan midfield. Runs all day, good decision making with elite disposal. His stats are skewed due to being sub multiple times. Every full game he was in the elite section for tackles more than 7 a game with high pressure...

Cox does make a very positive and significant structural change to our side.

Agreed, I think it is time to swing Moore forward (because that is basically how he is playing anyway no defensive pressure no manning up) and Howe back as interceptor with Dean/Frampton as the tall lockdown defender.

Harrison has been shocking back to the reserves. Getting real sick of watching Lipinski trot around the ground at the speed of a turtle and get beaten to the ball by his opponent every game.

Been watching the NBA playoffs with a lot of close calls that need to be replayed and they have competent cameras that are actually clear. Only sport in the word that broadcasts games on potatoes.

A holding the man call that resulted in the young goal. Is this not knocking the player off the contested ball?

All the absolute BS calls to try to get Freo over the line.

Looks slow/fat and playing the exact same role but 10 metres behind Elliott's running patterns. We are running one small forward heavy needs his own space won't come good until others arnt in the team stupid high priced trade. Always behind the man and ball by a noticeable amount.

Don't get carried away this game is bottom of the ladder skill level.

Shultzy really starting to heat up now with his 2 handballs 1 kick 1 tackle.

Is our inspirational captain alive ??