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Far prefer bottoming out and getting games into the kids surrounded by a few veterans then returning to years of being in no mans land. We've all been blessed with a lot of success so I reckon most tigers fans can handle a few years near the bottom in the name of building a new champion team...

Very excited about this trade period and the potential for a full rebuild. After watching the tiges dominate and win 3 premierships we have the chance to bring in a raft of top 20 draft picks over the next few years and also load up the salary cap ready for FA acquisitions when the time is...

It's only knock I have on Hardwick, poor form to trade the farm for ready made players on long contracts if he was going to walk out mid season. Rebuild time.

Like how fans now get banned for life if they make a racist comment I think there should be a zero tolerance policy for violent behaviour towards woman considering what a massive societal issue it is. But similar to Wayne Carey there are rules for some and rules for the rest. That being said...

Pretty sure Dani was stalking another woman as well. I'm all for redemption but not sure if Dani is the right person to be leading young woman given the nature of these crimes.

Laidleys or the family of the aggravated stalking victim?

Wonderful news regarding Laidley potentially coaching at the Bulldogs! Woman need more representation in senior coaching ranks so its great this job isn't going to another man and robbing a woman of the opportunity!

I hate to admit it but I feel sorry for the Dee's supporter with Oliver out of control having some sort of a drug fuelled mental breakdown after signing a 7 year contract hopes of another premiership are fading.

It's fine that Oliver was at revolver until 9am this morning after walking out of a club training camp.. he has ADHD so therefore no adult responsibilities count. Good thing he has that 7 year 1 million a year contract to see him through while he gets his "meds" right.

No way he plays with aggravated burglary charges over his head.

The truth will come out but at face value but it doesn't look good. The real tragedy is the possibility clubs are going to be even more reluctant to pick up kids with rough backgrounds who need 24/7 support to help change their lives and become a professional athlete.

Its all very odd!

Whether accusations are true, false or somewhere in between not not sure how anyone could argue Alistair Clarkson hasn't suffered reputational damage.

Reported in The Age.

SYL mentioned neither the rasicm accusations or the ripped jeans comment were related to Rioli's compensation claim so I'm not sure what the reasoning for the $2 million contract payout request was.

A St Kilda moderator spending his day getting into silly back & forths with random posters on the main board, pot calling the kettle I would have thought!

Seemingly the compensation claim is unrelated to the racism claim.

Sit down and be heard + $2 million compensation.

If the racism allegations are true Cyril is well within his rights to demand compensation. However this whole narrative that there is no financial motive at all is incorrect.

If the outcome from this (and the general consensus seems to be from a lot of people) that football clubs should not be getting involved in young players personal lifes, is there a possibility that clubs avoid drafting players from remote areas or if they have come from a troubled background and...

Do you believe all the things took place?

The untold story in all of this are the Hawthorn first nation players who played under Clarkson & Fagan and still respect and support them. It's totally understandable that they are staying out of it and their opinions or truth don't automatically absolve any accusations however there are...

That's very interesting Crankyhawk. It does make this even more complicated, are Clarkson & Fagan accused of being bigots or are they being accused of being part of systems that have disadvantaged certain racial backgrounds?

Do you think Clarkson and Fagan are racist?

The fact the press has gone completely silent is telling. In the absence of any official statements defamation action will rightfully be on the cards, you can't run around calling people racist without the facts on the table. I know Franklin won't be able to comment while still playing for the...

So they blew it up in the media to that there wasn't a cover up. Now the AFL has launched an investigation the people who leaked it won't participate. So how does this end? A continued drip feed of leaks to the media and inflammatory twitter posts? What's the aggrieved parties end game here...

If that was going to be a concern why publicly blow it up in the media? did she expect a different outcome then an AFL investigation which seemed the only possible next course of action once it became front page news everywhere.

"Amy" doesn't want to speak to the AFL about the incident but was ok anonymously leaking the accusations to the media and is now releasing art work depictions of the incident via her lawyer. It's become a bit of a circus at this point.

So many examples of clubs and coaches helping players from all walks of life getting their personal lives back on track The tiges are sticking by Sydney Stack despite a lot of off field trouble, ripping kid just needs continued support and guidance to get his personal life in order and...

Coaches getting involved with players personal lives happens constantly at every sporting club. When Dusty was going off the rails as a 19yo he was moved into Hardwicks house and told there were certain people he wasn't allowed to hang out with anymore. Probably saved his career, possibly his...