2004 Draft Revisited

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OK there seems to be a belief among non Tigers fans that selecting Tambling ahead of Franklin was an 'blunder'. Tigers fans would some what disagree with that notion and are quite happy with Tambling. Another so called blunder that seems to get swept under the carpet is the fact the Hawks took Roughead at Pick 2 before the Dogs took Griffen at Pick 3. So the question is:

If they were both labelled as 'blunders' which one is the bigger blunder?

 

[Moss Rocket]

How could any tiger fan be happy to have taken Tambling? He has shown nothing! Tambling may be delisted by years end if he doesn't learn how to play footy. Shocker!

 

[Nightwolf]

Tambling over Franklin

 

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How could any tiger fan be happy to have taken Tambling? He has shown nothing! Tambling may be delisted by years end if he doesn't learn how to play footy. Shocker!

How was any Carlton fan happy taking Livingston? Just about the worse Top 5 pick in history.

 

[parrot]

OK there seems to be a belief among non Tigers fans that selecting Tambling ahead of Franklin was an 'blunder'...

And also among many many Tiger fans BTW. Why torture yourself by creating this poll? We all know what the result will be. Terry stuffed up, it's time to move on and make sure it doesn't happen again, although the Sellar oversight is already ringing some alarm bells among the Richmond faithful.

 

[jamesisabomber]

How was any Carlton fan happy taking Livingston? Just about the worse Top 5 pick in history.

That title is well and truely reserved for one mark bolton

 

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And also among many many Tiger fans BTW. Why torture yourself by creating this poll? We all know what the result will be. Terry stuffed up, it's time to move on and make sure it doesn't happen again, although the Sellar oversight is already ringing some alarm bells among the Richmond faithful.

Do you believe that Roughead is a better player than Griffen?

Remember 12 other selections were made before us in the draft and none of them thought Sellar was worth it either.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Do you believe that Roughead is a better player than Griffen?

Remember 12 other selections were made before us in the draft and none of them thought Sellar was worth it either.

but he looks like a handy player who will play 150-200 games, while tambling hasnt really done anything

 

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but he looks like a handy player who will play 150-200 games, while tambling hasnt really done anything

It still does not really answer the question though. Is Roughead a better player than Griffen?

 

[Pykie]

wheres the Jesse Smith option?

 

[Silvagnis]

How was any Carlton fan happy taking Livingston? Just about the worse Top 5 pick in history.

Weren't Lounder and Fiora picked by the Tigers?

 

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Weren't Lounder and Fiora picked by the Tigers?

Lounder was 20 years ago and Fiora is still getting a game what is Livo doing?

 

[parrot]

Lounder was 20 years ago and Fiora is still getting a game what is Livo doing?

And Franklin kicked 6 goals against the Tiges this year. How do you feel?

 

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And Franklin kicked 6 goals against the Tiges this year. How do you feel?

Don't change the subject Parrot answer the question. Do you think Roughead is a better player than Griffen?

BTW he kicked 6 against the Blues as well.

 

[parrot]

Don't change the subject...

I thought it was on the subject. Both Franklin and Tambling were playing in that game, and it really reemphasized the magnitude of Terry's draft blunder didn't it. Must have hurt.

 

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I thought it was on the subject. Both Franklin and Tambling were playing in that game, and it really reemphasized the magnitude of Terry's draft blunder didn't it. Must have hurt.

You can't answer can you Parrot? It will show up all your carry on is utter tripe if you answer it by saying Roughead is better. It also shows the same thing if you answer that Griffen is better because the fact is Roughead was selected before Griffen, Tambling and Franklin. No wonder your keeping your thoughts to yourself on that question.

Is Roughead a better player than Griffen? Simple question Parrot see if you can answer.

 

[H2F]

You can't answer can you Parrot? It will show up all your carry on is utter tripe if you answer it by saying Roughead is better. It also shows the same thing if you answer that Griffen is better because the fact is Roughead was selected before Griffen, Tambling and Franklin. No wonder your keeping your thoughts to yourself on that question.

Is Roughead a better player than Griffen? Simple question Parrot see if you can answer.

Roughead is very under-rated and IMO will be every bit as good as Leppitch. Is he better than Griffin well I would say they are about even at this stage.

Griffin has had some better games but he is playing half back while Roughead plays KP. By the end of this year I think you might find three things.

1) Roughead will really emerge.
2) Tambling will improve too although I see Krakour written all over him.
3) Griffin will move into the midfield and only then will we see how good he really is. If he stars then that will be great, but he has to prove himself as much as Roughead I would say.

 

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It still does not really answer the question though. Is Roughead a better player than Griffen?

no, but it wasnt hardly a blunder since hawthorn went in picking kpp and roughead looks the goods, tambling on the otherhand...

 

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Roughead is very under-rated and IMO will be every bit as good as Leppitch. Is he better than Griffin well I would say they are about even at this stage.

Griffin has had some better games but he is playing half back while Roughead plays KP. By the end of this year I think you might find three things.

1) Roughead will really emerge.
2) Tambling will improve too although I see Krakour written all over him.
3) Griffin will move into the midfield and only then will we see how good he really is. If he stars then that will be great, but he has to prove himself as much as Roughead I would say.

Please tell me if comparing Roughead to Griifen is wrong because 1 plays HBF and the other KP then why are Tambling(HFF) and Franklin(KP) compared? Afterall is it not the same situation. Really shows just how little some 'fans' know.(yes Parrot this means you)

 

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no, but it wasnt hardly a blunder since hawthorn went in picking kpp and roughead looks the goods, tambling on the otherhand...

While the Tigers who originally looked set to get Deledio and Roughead decided to take 2 of the 3 best midfield types in the draft. All this discussion and yet the Hawks were supposedly going to take Tambling 2nd and Franklin 5th. WOuld Hawthorn fans be criticising Tambling if they had of taken him. Somehow I doubt it very much.

 

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While the Tigers who originally looked set to get Deledio and Roughead decided to take 2 of the 3 best midfield types in the draft. All this discussion and yet the Hawks were supposedly going to take Tambling 2nd and Franklin 5th. WOuld Hawthorn fans be criticising Tambling if they had of taken him. Somehow I doubt it very much.

probably not, but you wouldnt be defending tambling if he hadnt been drafted to the tigers

 

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probably not, but you wouldnt be defending tambling if he hadnt been drafted to the tigers

Nor would I be stating that drafting Player X after him was better.

Tambling has had the greater interruptions to his career thus far and for people to assume after 2 years that taking Tambling before Franklin was an error shoud remind themselves that Tambling was rated 2nd best Prospect in 04 Franklin rated 5th best. Tigers got Tambling at pick 4. Not comparing the 2 but Judd was taken 3rd and he has turned out to be the best player in the league, yet at the time Hodge and Ball were rated better than he by their respective clubs. Those 2 clubs are happy with who they got and Tigers fans are happy with Tambling.

Mark this down when Tambling shows his true talent over the next 1-2 years there will be some mighty embarrassed people on this site.

 

[parrot]

....Mark this down when Tambling shows his true talent over the next 1-2 years there will be some mighty embarrassed people on this site.

Well I guess at this stage Terry is looking "mighty embarassed" over the Franklin draft clanger. But will the 2006 trade/draft gaffs surpass them? Trading away a top-10 superdraft pick on a recycled Freo player, who struggled to play a handful of games last year, was just bizarre. Overlooking Sellar with a late first round pick, and instead choosing a 25-30 ranked player just compounded the problem. Poor list management is making it hard for the Tiges even before the season starts. If the Tiges ever become serious about breaking out of their 25 year+ mid-ladder cycle, then some big changes need to be made at Punt Road.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

why are Tambling(HFF) and Franklin(KP) compared? Afterall is it not the same situation.

Because:

A) Franklin DOESN'T play key position - He plays HFF now, and is likely to continue playing HFF in the future. It doesn't seem his style to be a traditional key position player.

B) Smalls usually come on a lot quicker than talls, so it is doubly embarrassing that Tambling hasn't managed to make a lick of impact in the time that Franklin has demonstrated star-qualities.

If you were any kind of "realistic" fan, you would recognise that at this stage, Tambling looks like he could be no better than Andy Krakouer unless he improves dramatically, while Franklin has shown that he might be the most physically talented player in the league, and has kicked multiple bags of 6 goals in his short career.

 

[juddy_Like]

B) Smalls usually come on a lot quicker than talls, so it is doubly embarrassing that Tambling hasn't managed to make a lick of impact in the time that Franklin has demonstrated star-qualities.

Isnt Tambling like a Twig? Yeah he might be a small but hes just seriously not physically developed.

Not trying to create an argument as i havnt seen the kid enough but just open to opinions.