Rumour 2010 Sydney Swans Trading Discussion (Part 2)

[crimson]

Re: 2010 Sydney Swans Trading Discussion

But, apparently this was written by Greg Denham, according to Bedford, he is the worst journalist going around, which is quite amazing really in itself, so do you believe this article?

I am not sure, if we need Justin Sherman anyway, I would rather keep the faith with Patrick Veszpremi.

Been a pity Veszpremi has the engine of a vespa. No legs. Maybe one day but always looks out of breath.

 

[Riders of Rohan]

Re: 2010 Sydney Swans Trading Discussion

Been a pity Veszpremi has the engine of a vespa. No legs. Maybe one day but always looks out of breath.

He needs mumfords game face.

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

I think that Everitt would be much better with a coach like Roos

That could be difficult, then.

 

[nico]

Did I just read where Sherman has 2 years to go on a $800,000 back ended contract. Surely we are not getting caught up in that sort of garbage. All we would be doing is taking over one Brisbane's problems. They made their bed, let them lie on it.

 

[Swansujelly]

Did I just read where Sherman has 2 years to go on a $800,000 back ended contract. Surely we are not getting caught up in that sort of garbage. All we would be doing is taking over one Brisbane's problems. They made their bed, let them lie on it.

yep, i read that. That was to fit Fev in, Brisbane are having a fire sale to get under the cap for next year. He may have been injured, but Shermans stats for this year are underwhelming for a 400k a year player. I think it would be a mistake to get him, I am with some of the above, let's get Everitt. If we can get him cheap (Barlow, 3rd rounder?) he would do well in our system if he buys in..

 

[disgruntled goat]

yep, i read that. That was to fit Fev in, Brisbane are having a fire sale to get under the cap for next year. He may have been injured, but Shermans stats for this year are underwhelming for a 400k a year player. I think it would be a mistake to get him, I am with some of the above, let's get Everitt. If we can get him cheap (Barlow, 3rd rounder?) he would do well in our system if he buys in..

I've always hoped Spida might take little brother aside and tell him what a fine club Sydney is, help wipe the blue smear off his jumper and leave it gleaming red and white.

 

[swans4eva]

I'm with everyone else... Everitt I feel could really thrive in Sydney but I'm not against the idea of Sherman too. Him on the SCG could be lethal.

 

[CAS79]

Sherman at his best his probably worth 400k a year. But for that price tag he needs to turn on his best every time he goes out to play. He has failed to be consistent his entire playing career. So while I think he would be worth looking at bringing to the club the Lions would have to pay some of his contract but it does not look like happening so Richmond would have to be favorites to get him.

 

[Membling]

With doubt over C Bolton wouldn't mind to trade in a stopper like Thursfield

 

[bleeding red and white]

John Anthony...YES PLEASE!

 

[TheGoatBaron]

John Anthony...YES PLEASE!

I hope that's a pisstank post?

 

[bleeding red and white]

I hope that's a pisstank post?

Pisstank post? hmmmmm let's see! A KKP player player who kicked 50 goals last year even though he was recruited as a defender. Obviously can play both ends of the ground so that gives the team more flexibility. Has struggled to get a regular place at the Pies this year as Dawes and Cloke have progressed well and look comfortable up forward so it's been a tough year for Anthony.

Just let me know if you find any other players with those type of assets that are potential trade bait. Would absolutely strive in the red and white.

Veszpremi and a 3rd rounder for Anthony

 

[TheGoatBaron]

Dear god!

 

[bedford]

I hope that's a pisstank post?

I agree

 

[AG]

It's got nothing to do with knowledge it's just a different opinion.

 

[CAS79]

Bleeding red and white Cloke and Dawes are still collingwood's weak spot. They are average forwards getting a golden run from an amazing midfield.

Anthony has a great kick and an excellent knack for being in the right spot and a good pair of hands.

What is he missing, for someone who is an apparent defender he fails Collingwoods game plan of being involved in their half forward press. His work rate off the ball is not the same and why he has gone missing from Collingwoods line up.

I certainly don't think your crazy looking at the Swans forward lien as problematic but we have to look at the road ahead. If we are persisting with White and Bradshaw as our two main forwards into the next two seasons with Dennis lane playing the smaller third option than What role do we have for Anthony. The Ressies watchers are giving Johnston the thumbs up and Reids debut against the Lions in round 22 shows he has something serious to work with.

Anthony does all his good work in the inside 50 region and if were looking for a forward it really is someone who can provide a link up on the flanks and get a quick turn around to Bradshaw/white. I'm not convinced Anthony is that man, I think he could be bound to one of the developing sides to provide a foil for one of their young forwards.

If we see Anthony traded into the club it is a sign to me Longmire is very concerned about White's ability to go the distance in his development.

 

[BarneyBent]

Jack Anthony is as much a key position player as TDL. In other words, he isn't one. He's fanastic over-head, but he doesn't have the physical presence of a genuine key position player. He finds space, takes numerous marks inside 50, and converts his opportunities. So does TDL. However, TDL is quicker, smarter, and has shown a greater willingness to tackle and do the one percenters.

Now, if any Collingwood supporters (or otherwise) read this and think I'm grossly overrating TDL, I'm not. Anthony has the runs on the board, he has kicked 50 goals in a season, and when picking a team right now, you'd have to go Anthony over TDL. However, they'd be competing for the same spot, and Anthony wouldn't add much that we haven't already got. He's not what we need (a true, dominant, goalkicking KPF), and we should be spending our trade resources on other players.

He's also apparently a bit of an arse.

 

[bleeding red and white]

I see where you are coming from but there's no promises that White and Johnston will deliver. White had a poor year, even though he created contests and crashed packs, he didn't kick enough goals and take good contested marks which the side was lacking. Hence why he was dropped for the semi final to make way for Bradshaw who can actually deliver.

Johnston looks promising but I expected him to get some game time this year, especially when Bradshaw went down. He's only 19 so he might take some time for him develop which most KPP forwards have to through.

You would think Anthony would be a required player at the pies and if he stays. I'm confident he'll be in their best 22 next year.

 

[bedford]

I see where you are coming from but there's no promises that White and Johnston will deliver. White had a poor year, even though he created contests and crashed packs, he didn't kick enough goals and take good contested marks which the side was lacking. Hence why he was dropped for the semi final to make way for Bradshaw who can actually deliver.

Johnston looks promising but I expected him to get some game time this year, especially when Bradshaw went down. He's only 19 so he might take some time for him develop which most KPP forwards have to through.

You would think Anthony would be a required player at the pies and if he stays. I'm confident he'll be in their best 22 next year.

No he won't, they don't need him

 

[bleeding red and white]

No he won't, they don't need him

Cloke finished with 38 goals this season. The lowest tally in a premiership side in years! Anthony finished with 50 last year and provided more of a target. Dawes reminded me of White, did good things but didn't really kick goals or take those important contested marks so not sure his spot is certain for next year unless he takes his game to the next level.

Pies at least know Anthony can kick goals ( mind you he's a beautiful kick) and can take decent grabs. He has struggled this season as a defender and wasn't used much as a forward because of Dawes and Cloke. The bigger bodies of those two is much preferred IMO but like I said, I'm sure Anthony will make his way back into their best 22. I rate him highly.

 

[AG]

lol. You question peoples knowledge and then say Anthony provided more of a target than Cloke. Cloke is a rubbish kick for goal but a very very good target. Underrated year because everyone looks at his kicking.

 

[bleeding red and white]

lol. You question peoples knowledge and then say Anthony provided more of a target than Cloke. Cloke is a rubbish kick for goal but a very very good target. Underrated year because everyone looks at his kicking.

Cloke 38 goals Anthony 50 goals

Cloke had better delivery this year as Collingwood's midfield is far better than last year and Anthony was developed into a key defender but Mick threw him up forward. Underrated year because of his kicking? To rate a player, especially a forward, you need to be able to kick straight.

Cloke could've cost his side a premiership last week with his woeful kicking.

Hence why I questioned people's knowledge lol

 

[AG]

Goal kicking isn't a measure of being a target. Cloke was 1st in contested marks for the entire league. 7th in marks overall and some of those above him just rack up the cheap sideways marks. He had a very good season.

 

[grimlock]

Cloke's conversion problems are well documented and isn't up for dispute here. He presents well and is the number 1 contested mark in the competition. Anthony is very one-dimensional and when he doesn't mark it, he doesn't have many other tricks up his sleeve. Collingwood's forward line pressure has been amazing all year and I suspect part of the reason why Anthony isn't in the side is because he struggles to apply the same level of pressure as the other Collingwood forwards. Besides, one of Collingwood's strengths has been the spread of goalkickers, and so Cloke hasn't been relied upon to kick a bag of 50 goals.

I like bloodstainedangel5's explanation of why Anthony wouldn't be a good recruit for us. Hard to rebut those points.

 

[Riders of Rohan]

Has anyone seen everitt play? What type of player is he and where would he slot into our team structure?