Teams 2013 Rate my Dream Team

[Borshk]

If there are no Fwd rookies playing, I'm going to pick Ben Kennedy & Dwyer because I think they will play sooner than later and score well when they do play. Besides, both are extremely cheap and midfielders. Of course it would mean having no forward emergency for this round. But it would give me extra coin to spend on my starting 22. I have Embley @ M6 & Lucas @ M7 ATM so one of them could easily be downgraded to a rookie that performs in Rd1 and upgrade Kennedy/Dwyer to a mid pricer if need be. Seems like wasted trades, but after a slow start, I'd like to score as much as possible in the remaining Rd1 games...

Interesting. I have been considering this strongly as well. Always seems a bit crazy to kick off round 1 with a few players that aren't playing, but I already have 1 89k ruck that wont play (purely to save cash) and 1 89k fwd that wont play (again, to save cash). With such slim pickings in the fwd line in terms of rookies, I might try going with 2 89k rookies in the fwd line.

will have to go over it to see if it is a sensible approach.

 

[Krujan]

Interesting. I have been considering this strongly as well. Always seems a bit crazy to kick off round 1 with a few players that aren't playing, but I already have 1 89k ruck that wont play (purely to save cash) and 1 89k fwd that wont play (again, to save cash). With such slim pickings in the fwd line in terms of rookies, I might try going with 2 89k rookies in the fwd line.

will have to go over it to see if it is a sensible approach.

I currently have 4 89k players filling the last spot on all my benches. Frost, Rampe, Naismith & Dwyer.

 

[Lukeaye]

What backs can i pick for for 270k or less. I need to offload vlastuin

 

[CrozaN]

^whoever you think will score the most.

 

[Borshk]

I currently have 4 89k players filling the last spot on all my benches. Frost, Rampe, Naismith & Dwyer.

Wow.

would have thought that the rookie depth in the backs and mids was adequate. are frost and rampe expected to get early games?

funny, I have naismith and dwyer as well.

 

[Mattrox]

Seems like wasted trades, but after a slow start, I'd like to score as much as possible in the remaining Rd1 games...

Chasing scores often backfires. ....... Just pick the best team. Cull duds later.

 

[Krujan]

Chasing scores often backfires. ....... Just pick the best team. Cull duds later.

Yeh, but if Frost, Rampe & Dwyer are all named? 89k mature age playing rooks FTW!

 

[Krujan]

Wow.

would have thought that the rookie depth in the backs and mids was adequate. are frost and rampe expected to get early games?

funny, I have naismith and dwyer as well.

I have them in my team because I'm expecting them to be named for Rd1. They wont be there if they're not named later today though.

 

[Lukeaye]

^whoever you think will score the most.

Wow, infallible logic

 

[Mattrox]

Yeh, but if Frost, Rampe & Dwyer are all named? 89k mature age playing rooks FTW!

When you say "if" they are named, it speaks to their job security. Having 89K players benched and not rising in price (and providing bench cover) is stupid if there are others that actually play and score decently. The points get now will be out stripped by the potential cashing in of players for profit and getting super premos into your side sooner rather than later.

IF Frost plays and scores 60 - 70 every week you win, but if not you are playing catch-up.

 

[Jessbek]

When you say "if" they are named, it speaks to their job security. Having 89K players benched and not rising in price (and providing bench cover) is stupid if there are others that actually play and score decently. The points get now will be out stripped by the potential cashing in of players for profit and getting super premos into your side sooner rather than later.

IF Frost plays and scores 60 - 70 every week you win, but if not you are playing catch-up.

Frost will play IMHO. A 55 average from a 89K defender, would take that any day of the week.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Frost will play IMHO. A 55 average from a 89K defender, would take that any day of the week.

Frost has to play surely
Keefe out for 6-8 and no reid either right??

 

[btemplar88]

J selwood or A swallow.

 

[Jessbek]

Frost has to play surely
Keefe out for 6-8 and no reid either right??

I am almost 100% that Frost will be named on the ground. Even if his average is shit, his great JS (I think he does anyway) makes him an absolute ideal D8.

 

[Mattrox]

Frost will play IMHO. A 55 average from a 89K defender, would take that any day of the week.

55 over 3 games, then if Ball comes back...... that's not much of a price rise.

If I really run out of rookies then I'd look at it.

The other thing to think about is that Robbie Gray plays SANFL this week. On the come-back trail. Does this apply pressure to Neade's spot?

Also the paper today it talking up Tom Lee's prospects.......... LOL lets wait and see.

All I know is that Tonight's game provided me no joy in rookies.

 

[Krujan]

When you say "if" they are named, it speaks to their job security. Having 89K players benched and not rising in price (and providing bench cover) is stupid if there are others that actually play and score decently. The points get now will be out stripped by the potential cashing in of players for profit and getting super premos into your side sooner rather than later.

IF Frost plays and scores 60 - 70 every week you win, but if not you are playing catch-up.

I'll leave Vlastuin in then, because apparently he has better JS

Just remember, Rampe will go up in value a lot more and quicker than Wines, even if Wines averages more..

Srsly, nothing wrong with sub 100k mature age rookies, just look at Zorko & Gibson from last year...compared to Coniglio for instance...

 

[Jessbek]

55 over 3 games, then if Ball comes back...... that's not much of a price rise.



If I really run out of rookies then I'd look at it.



The other thing to think about is that Robbie Gray plays SANFL this week. On the come-back trail. Does this apply pressure to Neade's spot?

The snowman is a key backman, Ball wont push him out if he is in.

I would think so yes, makes Neade's push for a spot that much more difficult

 

[FlowersByIrene]

55 over 3 games, then if Ball comes back...... that's not much of a price rise.

If I really run out of rookies then I'd look at it.

The other thing to think about is that Robbie Gray plays SANFL this week. On the come-back trail. Does this apply pressure to Neade's spot?

Also the paper today it talking up Tom Lee's prospects.......... LOL lets wait and see.

All I know is that Tonight's game provided me no joy in rookies.

Why would ball push frost out completely different positions

 

[Mattrox]

I'll leave Vlastuin in then, because apparently he has better JS

Just remember, Rampe will go up in value a lot more and quicker than Wines, even if Wines averages more..

Srsly, nothing wrong with sub 100k mature age rookies, just look at Zorko & Gibson from last year...compared to Coniglio for instance...

I didn't say that either. I would trust Vlastuin's spot until he is named for the 3rd consecutive game. Wait for him, we have the trades to move him in when it warrants.

Wines is more likely to give you a better score during the price rise too. "Chasing" a score won't work, but naming players that are likely to score above the rookie average makes sence for rookies named on the ground.

Naming 85k players to get the extra k's to spend on premos/mid pricers will see you run out of buying power when they are not names for 3 games.

If you are familiar with Optimisation problems in Maths, what you need to do is maximise your cash generation not just the total profit, but also do it quickly, and balance that with on going scores. Let's just stick to the situation where you are naming bench rookies as cash cows.

I'll just give you an example.....
Lets say you have 2 85k players average 55 for 4 games, compared to 100k players averaging 75 for 4 games.

Lets suppose they are bench players you are not losing any points on the ground.

If the 100k players get a 5th game and the 85K players miss a few games, all of a sudden you are behind the 8-ball. And you are now banking on a new rookie to be on the bubble for round 5 to keep pace with the cash generating ability.

Then we can look at the bench cover side of things. If there is a late out and I have only rookies on the bench even 55 pts is a blessing, but it would be better to be able to rely on a higher score. Heaven forbid a 110k ave premo is a late out.......

I don't trust rookies until they are named. When named I see it as a vote of confidence from the coach, especially when named for a 3rd game. At least with 2 trades every round you can swap to the lowest break-even from your highest break-even rookie to capitalise on rising prices. That is provided you don't get 2 LTI's at a time.

 

[Keystone agony]

Now with maybe no Terlich (Frost) could be my man. I think an avg of 55 will boast his price up quite substantially and hes just so cheap. Mature aged ready to go.

No Reid or that other lanky guy (Cant think of name).

 

[Jessbek]

Now with maybe no Terlich (Frost) could be my man. I think an avg of 55 will boast his price up quite substantially and hes just so cheap. Mature aged ready to go.

No Reid or that other lanky guy (Cant think of name).

Keefe is the guy you're looking for My thoughts exactly KA, and even if they are dropped after 4 games being priced at 89k and having 44 trades means it is easy to trade out for another rookie (Vlas) after a couple of nice price rises

 

[Krujan]

I didn't say that either. I would trust Vlastuin's spot until he is named for the 3rd consecutive game. Wait for him, we have the trades to move him in when it warrants.

Wines is more likely to give you a better score during the price rise too. "Chasing" a score won't work, but naming players that are likely to score above the rookie average makes sence for rookies named on the ground.

Naming 85k players to get the extra k's to spend on premos/mid pricers will see you run out of buying power when they are not names for 3 games.

If you are familiar with Optimisation problems in Maths, what you need to do is maximise your cash generation not just the total profit, but also do it quickly, and balance that with on going scores. Let's just stick to the situation where you are naming bench rookies as cash cows.

I'll just give you an example.....
Lets say you have 2 85k players average 55 for 4 games, compared to 100k players averaging 75 for 4 games.

Lets suppose they are bench players you are not losing any points on the ground.

If the 100k players get a 5th game and the 85K players miss a few games, all of a sudden you are behind the 8-ball. And you are now banking on a new rookie to be on the bubble for round 5 to keep pace with the cash generating ability.

Then we can look at the bench cover side of things. If there is a late out and I have only rookies on the bench even 55 pts is a blessing, but it would be better to be able to rely on a higher score. Heaven forbid a 110k ave premo is a late out.......

I don't trust rookies until they are named. When named I see it as a vote of confidence from the coach, especially when named for a 3rd game. At least with 2 trades every round you can swap to the lowest break-even from your highest break-even rookie to capitalise on rising prices. That is provided you don't get 2 LTI's at a time.

Please don't ruin DT for me with maths FFS

Let's put it this way, I will pick the rookies that are named. (there won't be many to choose from, so not to many decisions to be made) The cheapest ones named will get preference in my team. I've never selected the top priced rooks before not about to now. If a Whitfield/Toumpas/Wines smashes out 2 big scores, I'll bring him in on the bubble at the expense of a mid pricer if need be.

Just because a rook is more expensive it doesn't necessarily mean they have better JS or will score higher than the 102k and unders.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Still waiting to see if terlich is definitely out
If not ive got pittard to sub on frost as emergency
Im not panicking yet

 

[Mattrox]

The snowman is a key backman, Ball wont push him out if he is in.

I would think so yes, makes Neade's push for a spot that much more difficult

But you know that that is not how the game is played these days. Ball comes in, some (good) utility player get moved to a different spot.......... the least experienced player gets dropped.

 

[Jessbek]

But you know that that is not how the game is played these days. Ball comes in, some (good) utility player get moved to a different spot.......... the least experienced player gets dropped.

In my opinion, that will be Dwyer.