2020 FA, Draft and Trade HYPOTHETICAL thread...now with new DFA speculation!

[Strapping Young Lad]

A good reference point for picks.

 

[MrPremiership]

It really doesn't bother me if you listen to my claims or not, I know they're fact ( us rating Taylor in the 20s pre draft ) that is, obviously best 22 stuff is opinion.

You probably would have rubbished my claims about Stratton being captain etc also.

There is simply no correlation between where the club rates a player in the draft to where they land in the immediate best 22 of the side. That is quite simple. If you think otherwise, you're just bonkers.

I certainly wouldn't rate many of your other claims.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

There is simply no correlation between where the club rates a player in the draft to where they land in the immediate best 22 of the side. That is quite simple. If you think otherwise, you're just bonkers.

I certainly wouldn't rate many of your other claims.

That is my opinion I agree, I'm not saying that's fact.

 

[MrPremiership]

That is my opinion I agree, I'm not saying that's fact.

Your reasoning that he's best 22 was that our recruiters supposedly rated him top 20 in the draft.

I've provided you with stats that show current fringe players have performed better than him, let alone best 22 players.

What nonsense.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Your reasoning that he's best 22 was that our recruiters supposedly rated him top 20 in the draft.

I've provided you with stats that show current fringe players have performed better than him, let alone best 22 players.

What nonsense.

I assume you're one that rates Milne, Betts etc as far better players than Cyril then ? Just make sure you stay true to your word regarding stats.

I think Taylor has X- factor and lots of untapped potential, he played 4 games very early and was suspended. I think with groundwork and exposure he has a much higher ceiling than Morris and also Moore and Ollie who are what ? already 3rd or 4th year players ?

 

[Dew2KFC2Flag08]

The difference in stats in that insignificant and the sample size that small that it’s hard to judge Morris v. Taylor.

Taylor would surely get games before Moore/Hanrahan etc. who are 3-4 years into the system and yet to make their mark though.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

The difference in stats in that insignificant and the sample size that small that it’s hard to judge Morris v. Taylor.

Taylor would surely get games before Moore/Hanrahan etc. who are 3-4 years into the system and yet to make their mark though.

Yeah they're all very fair and reasonable points, I'm probably harsh on Morris as he's so young much like Taylor.

Ollie and Moore being 22 and 21 and not being able to cement a spot in this Hawthorn side surely speaks volumes.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Young guy pleads guilty to belting his missus and has his footy career terminated.

Bigfooty: hey let’s get that guy to Hawthorn.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

All a moot point though I'd say Dew2KFC2Flag08 , I think since the Garlett **** up the club are probably pretty risk adverse in taking players with checkered past etc. I think Taylor's best bet is probably going back to the WAFL playing good footy and then getting another chance from the Tigers.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Young guy pleads guilty to belting his missus and has his footy career terminated.

Bigfooty: hey let’s get that guy to Hawthorn.

No criminal conviction and a measly $5000 fine though, not saying what he did was good or right, just saying I think he's a talent and people deserve 2nd chances and make mistakes.

 

[MrPremiership]

I assume you're one that rates Milne, Betts etc as far better players than Cyril then ? Just make sure you stay true to your word regarding stats.

I think Taylor has X- factor and lots of untapped potential, he played 4 games very early and was suspended. I think with groundwork and exposure he has a much higher ceiling than Morris and also Moore and Ollie who are what ? already 3rd or 4th year players ?

and none of that points to best 22.

 

[KermitJagger]

No criminal conviction and a measly $5000 fine though, not saying what he did was good or right, just saying I think he's a talent and people deserve 2nd chances and make mistakes.

Being welcomed into a second club is less a second chance and more an admission that the acceptability of what he did depends on his ability to play football.

 

[Dew2KFC2Flag08]

and none of that points to best 22.

Hanrahan played the first 7 games and then we were raffling him, Minch, Nash and Moore. He’d have no trouble getting games.

 

[Blackhawk42]

The difference in stats in that insignificant and the sample size that small that it’s hard to judge Morris v. Taylor.

Taylor would surely get games before Moore/Hanrahan etc. who are 3-4 years into the system and yet to make their mark though.

I mean, Ollie had 16 touches and kicked 2 goals in just his second game, while Moore got Brownlow votes in his 10th game.

Based on Taylors sample size from 4 games I wouldn't expect him to be selected in our 22 before those guys automatically.

 

[rei154]

No criminal conviction and a measly $5000 fine though, not saying what he did was good or right, just saying I think he's a talent and people deserve 2nd chances and make mistakes.

I agree that people deserve second chances, but the dude imo needs to go through therapy and make reparations before I would hope any afl club would look at him again.

Charges get downplayed all the time for a heap of reasons, and I'm not convinced that his charges weren't impacted by the fact he's an AFL players.
Also, we're the family club. Can't call ourselves that if we're willing to grab a DV abuser less than a year after his arrest.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

I agree that people deserve second chances, but the dude imo needs to go through therapy and make reparations before I would hope any afl club would look at him again.

Charges get downplayed all the time for a heap of reasons, and I'm not convinced that his charges weren't impacted by the fact he's an AFL players.
Also, we're the family club. Can't call ourselves that if we're willing to grab a DV abuser less than a year after his arrest.

Wholeheartedly agree he needs to go through therapy and address these issues.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Sadly (for him) he is going to be wearing blue and white stripes and living in Hobart.

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[MrPremiership]

Hanrahan played the first 7 games and then we were raffling him, Minch, Nash and Moore. He’d have no trouble getting games.

that means nothing

 

[MrPremiership]

Being welcomed into a second club is less a second chance and more an admission that the acceptability of what he did depends on his ability to play football.

Not everyone deserves a second chance.

You've got to genuinely be remorseful and atone for your actions first. The bloke hasn't been sentenced yet! And people still want him on the list.

 

[The German Hunter]

Wholeheartedly agree he needs to go through therapy and address these issues.

There’s a thing in clubs called culture, this guy is a cancer. Maybe you could let him date your daughter

 

[TazHawk15]

There’s a thing in clubs called culture, this guy is a cancer. Maybe you could let him date your daughter

HodgeyRoad would have no problem letting a woman bashing player from another club date his daughter.

However if it was one from a club he clearly has no time for (The Hawks) it would be a different matter.

In fact I have had a gut full of his “Everyone is great especially the Tiggers and Dimma and the Handbaggers and Scott”

But the most successful club of the last half a century is crap at everything, vibe Gives me the shits.

He comes across as an entitled millennial who has been following the Hawks for 5 minutes.

 

[Dew2KFC2Flag08]

Not everyone deserves a second chance.

You've got to genuinely be remorseful and atone for your actions first. The bloke hasn't been sentenced yet! And people still want him on the list.

He’s been sentenced.

 

[Dew2KFC2Flag08]

that means nothing

That would literally be his competition for a spot. I think it does

 

[MrPremiership]

He’s been sentenced.

Just saw he was yesterday. Punched her in the back of the head.

Quality fella!

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Not everyone deserves a second chance.

You've got to genuinely be remorseful and atone for your actions first. The bloke hasn't been sentenced yet! And people still want him on the list.

No conviction and $5000 fine was the sentence.

 

[MrPremiership]

That would literally be his competition for a spot. I think it does

He wasn't even best 22 at his previous club, who are worse than us