AFL 2021 AFL Round 12

[banzai]

Carlton's record against top 8 sides this year please.

Haha yep. That will clash with West Coasts road record.

 

[NYRB]

Thank you to someone who agrees with me in regards to Collingwoods ball movement.

Quote from Daisy Thomas:

"If there had been fans, there almost would have been riots in the stands. It was a genuine putrid display of football."


I hate to say this and the AFL has changed a lot of rules in the last decade or so, but there will be a time when kicking backwards won't be allowed in future.

I can definitely see it.

Is there anyway or anywhere providing the number of times a team kicks backwards? I know Kayo Sports last night had a stat on that........

 

[targett]

Thank you to someone who agrees with me in regards to Collingwoods ball movement.

Quote from Daisy Thomas:

"If there had been fans, there almost would have been riots in the stands. It was a genuine putrid display of football."


I hate to say this and the AFL has changed a lot of rules in the last decade or so, but there will be a time when kicking backwards won't be allowed in future.

I can definitely see it.

Is there anyway or anywhere providing the number of times a team kicks backwards? I know Kayo Sports last night had a stat on that........

Makes sense to me . They where horrible against the Cats and the 10 point margin flattered Collingwood .

 

[NYRB]

I actually don't blame the teams for kicking backwards either, its generally done to open up the fat side of the ground.

I think Matthew Lloyd and Blight suggested it should be play on if you kick backwards. Which I think is totally fair on both sides.

Less teams now more than ever are hardly going to go down the middle .

 

[NYRB]

Our game and tactics have become more and more like basketball.

I mean in basketball, you have 10 seconds to get the ball out of the half-court and 24 seconds to use up before taking a shot.

Teams can easily milk down 30 seconds these days in the back half alone in an AFL game. And the worst thing is there is no time limit on the defensive half. I've seen teams in the past chew up 2.5-3 minutes on a regular basis. It got me thinking maybe somewhere in future, will there will be a time clock for teams that just stat build on the defensive half?

Watching the Crows v Richmond game last week, Dockers v Port game yesterday, both games were genuinely exciting. I was wrong on the disposals count of both teams, they both went well under as well.

I hate to say this but Less Disposals= Makes for a more exciting game. (it can be good for the punt too, i guess if you can predict the teams that want to play the slow, defensive, backwards style). As a neutral there are some games, you wouldn't pay money to watch. I just want to see all teams going hammer and tong for the full 4 quarters. None of this stuff about conserving energy, playing for 30+ disposals etc etc

 

[jikost]

Damn this is frustrating. It doesn't feel like a normal Monday afternoon if I'm not looking at the heat map of some random Gold Coast nobody to see if he's any chance of kicking 2 goals.

 

[dontlimitme]

Damn this is frustrating. It doesn't feel like a normal Monday afternoon if I'm not looking at the heat map of some random Gold Coast nobody to see if he's any chance of kicking 2 goals.

 

[TryAnHit]

All over Adelaide -8.5 and swans -1.5

 

[Ohh Ok]

All over Adelaide -8.5 and swans -1.5

Adelaide -8.5?

 

[Ohh Ok]

I actually don't blame the teams for kicking backwards either, its generally done to open up the fat side of the ground.

I think Matthew Lloyd and Blight suggested it should be play on if you kick backwards. Which I think is totally fair on both sides.

Less teams now more than ever are hardly going to go down the middle .

Kicking backwards forces opposing teams to press higher up the ground and create holes in behind the defence. Common soccer tactic.

 

[TryAnHit]

Adelaide -8.5?

Took it when it opened

 

[Ohh Ok]

Took it when it opened

Ah, moved quick.

 

[NYRB]

reading reports in the day that Melbourne v Brisbane likely to be moved from Darwin to Giants Stadium. I think playing the game at Giants stadium should favour Brisbane.

Saints v Swans likely to move to SCG. Swans you would imagine would shorten a lot more given what I have seen on the exchanges.

West Coast from what I know have a terrible record at the SCG in their time there. They have a 3 win 16 loss record there. The dimensions and playing style is different to Perth Stadium.Didnt watch Carlton on weekend but from the scoreline -they gave a good fist of themselves.

Crows game moving to Sydney, lessens the home advantage but Crows are still playing better than the Pies.

Sydney is the winner of this round. Initially pencilled in for 0 games this week, but could get 4 fixtures this round.

 

[NYRB]

this may be a bit of a silly question to ask but do Carlton stay in Sydney to prepare for the Eagles or do they go to Melbourne to be with their families?

 

[NYRB]

I'll have a stab at where the Saints v Swans game is due to be played tomorrow- before it becomes official tomorrow. I have compiled the odds:

Venue of Saints v Swans for Round 12:

SCG $2.22
Cairns $3.85
Marvel Stadium $5.26
Giants Stadium $12.50
Adelaide Oval $100
Perth Stadium $200
Canberra $200

Who is your money on?

 

[NYRB]

^^ wouldn't mind a tenner on Perth Stadium given the way the season has been run from the AFL............



There might be an opportunity to cash out if the game is moved from Adelaide Oval to say Sydney.


Notice the rules: Bets stand regardless of venue.

 

[iluvparis]

reading reports in the day that Melbourne v Brisbane likely to be moved from Darwin to Giants Stadium. I think playing the game at Giants stadium should favour Brisbane.

Saints v Swans likely to move to SCG. Swans you would imagine would shorten a lot more given what I have seen on the exchanges.

West Coast from what I know have a terrible record at the SCG in their time there. They have a 3 win 16 loss record there. The dimensions and playing style is different to Perth Stadium.Didnt watch Carlton on weekend but from the scoreline -they gave a good fist of themselves.

Crows game moving to Sydney, lessens the home advantage but Crows are still playing better than the Pies.

Sydney is the winner of this round. Initially pencilled in for 0 games this week, but could get 4 fixtures this round.

I reckon the Eagles record at the SCG would be better than 3-16 if they got to play Carlton there on a regular basis

 

[FrankGrimes]

I'll have a stab at where the Saints v Swans game is due to be played tomorrow- before it becomes official tomorrow. I have compiled the odds:

Venue of Saints v Swans for Round 12:

SCG $2.22
Cairns $3.85
Marvel Stadium $5.26
Giants Stadium $12.50
Adelaide Oval $100
Perth Stadium $200
Canberra $200

Who is your money on?

Can I have 10k on scg?

 

[NYRB]

Cmon Sportsbet if your reading this, instead of taking the market for Sydney v Saints off, put some novelty bets during the week up

I reckon the Eagles record at the SCG would be better than 3-16 if they got to play Carlton there on a regular basis

I remember in the 90's they played the North Melbourne football club there as a Roos home fixture.

SCG , York Park, Metricon, GABBA are grounds wider than the old Subiaco Oval/Perth stadium and Eagles don't play that width very well. It's an adjustment they have to make.

 

[NYRB]

Can I have 10k on scg?

Cairns and the QLD government are in negotiations with AFL. I wouldn't write Cairns off just yet.

But money talks in this situation. A Crowd of 30,000 guaranteed in Sydney guarantees ticket gate sales, NSW government more lax when it comes to border closures means Sydney is favourite............

But in saying that the crowds for the other 2 neutral games in Sydney were a tad dissapointing this weekend. 1,241 to see Hawks/Giants and 4,236 to see Richmond/Crows.

Could probably understand the Hawks crowd given they too are like Collingwood , playing $hit football and too much defensive stuff.

 

[NYRB]

My odds on Where the Crows v Collingwood game will be played this weekend:

Giants Stadium $2.04
Adelaide Oval $3
In QLD $38.46
SCG $6.94
Other Venue in Australia $165

Just for a bit of fun

 

[NYRB]

The longer this drags on, the more likely both the Saints/Swans and Crows/Pies game will be moved.

It is crap for the spectators and punters not to know where the game will be played this week. And good luck to getting over 5k to any of the Sydney based games for neutral teams.

 

[FrankGrimes]

Cairns and the QLD government are in negotiations with AFL. I wouldn't write Cairns off just yet.

But money talks in this situation. A Crowd of 30,000 guaranteed in Sydney guarantees ticket gate sales, NSW government more lax when it comes to border closures means Sydney is favourite............

But in saying that the crowds for the other 2 neutral games in Sydney were a tad dissapointing this weekend. 1,241 to see Hawks/Giants and 4,236 to see Richmond/Crows.

Could probably understand the Hawks crowd given they too are like Collingwood , playing $hit football and too much defensive stuff.

Think a round swap is more likely with saint swans, think they play round 21 or something

 

[TryAnHit]

this may be a bit of a silly question to ask but do Carlton stay in Sydney to prepare for the Eagles or do they go to Melbourne to be with their families?

Stay

 

[NYRB]

Stay

wowwiiiiiiiiiiie nice.