Keeper Lg. 2021 List Management Thread

[Rockford]

I haven’t had time to catch up on everything but agree with what Drew23 has written and then that it should be based on last years ladder order if there’s waivers prior to Round 1.

 

[Zim^zuM]

Don't see why not if I keep galluc

I haven’t had time to catch up on everything but agree with what Drew23 has written and then that it should be based on last years ladder order if there’s waivers prior to Round 1.

thought it always was

 

[tenderwarrior]

I think there needs to be rules for the FA draft as last year people just started claiming them on mid week waivers from memory without the normal FA draft order.

Yeah, the system doesn't work as well when there are potentially games 7 days a week. I am not against a fixed waiver order, but as long as it isn't re-set after every round. I am not sure what options the UF set up gives though.

 

[flaps]

Why can't I sign him?

Tell me how it's different to say Mason Wood

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Mason Wood

Age

31

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192cm

Wt

86kg

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Last 5

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13.2

3star

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7.8

3star

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5.4

4star

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4.0

4star

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2.2

4star

CL

0.3

2star

D

8.3

2star

K

2.7

1star

HB

5.7

3star

M

1.7

2star

T

1.3

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

not being on UF right now as well, despite being picked up by the Saints.

I don't see how it's different to having a spot open, like for example wanting to keep the rights to a player, knowing they wouldn't be playing for a year. Use Pat McCartin as an example. He gets cut from a team and then subsequently UF. We've said in the past if we wanted to keep the rights to a player who's not on UF, then we can, we just play one player short. Alex Rance

Alex Rance

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35

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194cm

Wt

95kg

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Def

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Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

7.7

5star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

226.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

17.0

5star

K

5.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.6

5star

another example if he ever comes back.

Can we all agree to pause the draft right now and debate those points least? Because I find it ridiculous that I can't have the draft pick for a player that no one has spoken up about until he was taken.

 

[tenderwarrior]

Why can't I sign him?

Tell me how it's different to say Mason Wood not being on UF right now as well, despite being picked up by the Saints.

I don't see how it's different to having a spot open, like for example wanting to keep the rights to a player, knowing they wouldn't be playing for a year. Use Pat McCartin as an example. He gets cut from a team and then subsequently UF. We've said in the past if we wanted to keep the rights to a player who's not on UF, then we can, we just play one player short. Alex Rance another example if he ever comes back.

Can we all agree to pause the draft right now and debate those points least? Because I find it ridiculous that I can't have the draft pick for a player that no one has spoken up about until he was taken.

It isn't different to Mason Wood - Mason Wood can't be selected either based on what is written above.

I would have selected Mason Wood if I thought otherwise (and I even emailed Ultimate Footy to find out when he would be added to UF - buggers never replied )

On your other points re McCartin, keeping a player you have already is different to trading in one who has never been on your list - like Gallucci this off season for Zim

If we want clarity, I say make it a simple blanket rule if a player is not on the UF player list, he is not available to keep/trade or draft.

 

[tenderwarrior]

deeman87 and Bowski something to ponder and rule on in the other leagues draft before we get too deep

 

[flaps]

It isn't different to Mason Wood - Mason Wood can't be selected either based on what is written above.

I would have selected Mason Wood if I thought otherwise (and I even emailed Ultimate Footy to find out when he would be added to UF - buggers never replied )

On your other points re McCartin, keeping a player you have already is different to trading in one who has never been on your list - like Gallucci this off season for Zim

If we want clarity, I say make it a simple blanket rule if a player is not on the UF player list, he is not available to keep/trade or draft.

So tell me then why is (example) Mason Wood allowed to stay on a list if it's not on UF? You've just gone against your own point.

 

[Haychh]

Why can't I sign him?

Tell me how it's different to say Mason Wood not being on UF right now as well, despite being picked up by the Saints.

I don't see how it's different to having a spot open, like for example wanting to keep the rights to a player, knowing they wouldn't be playing for a year. Use Pat McCartin as an example. He gets cut from a team and then subsequently UF. We've said in the past if we wanted to keep the rights to a player who's not on UF, then we can, we just play one player short. Alex Rance another example if he ever comes back.

Can we all agree to pause the draft right now and debate those points least? Because I find it ridiculous that I can't have the draft pick for a player that no one has spoken up about until he was taken.

Think it opens up a can of worms if you are just able to pick someone up because they are all of a sudden put on a list and it’s conveniently your pick in the draft. Had I known he was available this morning I definitely would’ve picked him up instead of Watson.

 

[flaps]

Think it opens up a can of worms if you are just able to pick someone up because they are all of a sudden put on a list and it’s conveniently your pick in the draft. Had I known he was available this morning I definitely would’ve picked him up instead of Watson.

You had every opportunity to do the same thing. So the question becomes, why didn't you? Can't blame me for being the one who actually made the decision to pick him, right?

 

[tenderwarrior]

So tell me then why is (example) Mason Wood allowed to stay on a list if it's not on UF? You've just gone against your own point.

Is Mason Wood still on a BFDL list?

Mason Wood isn't listed on UF (or wasnt while I had draft picks)

How have I contradicted myself?

 

[Haychh]

You had every opportunity to do the same thing. So the question becomes, why didn't you? Can't blame me for being the one who actually made the decision to pick him, right?

I guess I just assumed he couldn’t be picked up because he wasn’t on UF?? I could be wrong but I thought it was pretty straightforward. I planned to have a crack at him on waivers when he became available

 

[flaps]

Is Mason Wood still on a BFDL list?

Mason Wood isn't listed on UF (or wasnt while I had draft picks)

How have I contradicted myself?

Read again. You said it a player isn't on UF he shouldn't be on a list. If you're going to that level of detail that players aren't in the game, then they're not in the game.

 

[flaps]

Regardless of whatever happens it looks like I'm for whatever reason here outnumbered.

I'm pretty pissed about it to tbh. Everyone else could've done the same thing but no one wanted him. That's really not my fault.

It will time out in 3 hours if it's not paused.

 

[tenderwarrior]

Read again. You said it a player isn't on UF he shouldn't be on a list. If you're going to that level of detail that players aren't in the game, then they're not in the game.

Yes. So where have I contradicted that?

 

[flaps]

Yes. So where have I contradicted that?

Are you that blind? I'm not going to write it a third time.

 

[tenderwarrior]

Are you that blind? I'm not going to write it a third time.

Maybe somebody else can spell it out to me then, as I have no idea what you are trying to say. Sorry.

 

[Zim^zuM]

Love it.

 

[Haychh]

Regardless of whatever happens it looks like I'm for whatever reason here outnumbered.

I'm pretty pissed about it to tbh. Everyone else could've done the same thing but no one wanted him. That's really not my fault.

It will time out in 3 hours if it's not paused.

Hey I’m not saying you’re right or wrong I’m just saying that’s what my thought process was and why I didn’t pick him up. It was my understanding that the only players available were those that were on UF otherwise I would’ve picked him, I literally searched for him before I drafted Watson to double check he hadn’t been added yet.

 

[Zim^zuM]

Good to see fire in the belly

 

[Unknown Caller]

flaps I strongly suggest you make your pick now in UF.

As I said before, not every coach is working on the assumption that you can pick those that haven’t been listed on UF. Maybe it’s something for future drafts if people agree to it and it’s clear, but not in the current draft.

 

[flaps]

flaps I strongly suggest you make your pick now in UF.

As I said before, not every coach is working on the assumption that you can pick those that haven’t been listed on UF. Maybe it’s something for future drafts if people agree to it and it’s clear, but not in the current draft.

Why isn't the draft being paused?

 

[flaps]

Love it.

Glad someone's enjoying it. Because I'm not.

 

[Unknown Caller]

Why isn't the draft being paused?

Because as far as I’m concerned and seemingly the vast majority of coaches, this issue has been addressed.

 

[flaps]

Because as far as I’m concerned and seemingly the vast majority of coaches, this issue has been addressed.

Right. So what other rules being made up on the fly for the rest of the season? Because I'd like to know when Waterman is going to be available and the official process we're taking with this precedent.

 

[Unknown Caller]

Waterman and any other players in a similar situation will be available after the draft and if they’re listed on UF.