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[Aphrodite]

 

[Wickzki]

Fair enough—there wasn't a whole heap in it, IMO.
Imagine the outcry if one of our guys was rubbed out for essentially being a pest.

It was enough to start a small melee. If the Crows fans around me weren't cursing him out I probably would have let it slide. It was just one of those incidents that being there may have presented differently than what it actually was.

Fair enough.

 

[Aphrodite]

That’s odd

He doesn’t play for Carlton

 

[Wickzki]

That’s odd

He doesn’t play for Carlton

Zerrett was cooked. Even * fans were public on socials in questioning if he gets a week. When your own ask the question you know you're ****ed.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

"‘3 weeks plus’: Saint Anthony Caminiti facing lengthy ban for shock high hit on Pies’ Nathan Murphy

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Nathan Murphy

Age

24

Ht

192cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

3star

MG

176.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.5

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

4star

MG

176.5

3star

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‘Not a deliberate act’: Pies great defends Saint amid HUGE Match Review call as three banned

‘Not a deliberate act’: Pies great defends Saint as trio banned in HUGE Match Review

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[jj1978]

AFL should start focusing on eradicating the BS behind the play niggles and non play involved hitting, pinching, slapping and shoving. Feel sorry for Caminiti, minding his business and being hit and just responds.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

"‘3 weeks plus’: Saint Anthony Caminiti facing lengthy ban for shock high hit on Pies’ Nathan Murphy."

‘Not a deliberate act’: Pies great defends Saint amid HUGE Match Review call as three banned

‘Not a deliberate act’: Pies great defends Saint as trio banned in HUGE Match Review

www.foxsports.com.au

Leigh trying his best to help the Saints out there... lol

 

[Accidental genius]

Well ….the filth player hit him first but didn’t connect/knock him out so maybe a fine for him?

caminitti Knocks him out so probably misses games …maybe reduced due to filth player instigating it ??

 

[Jatz]

AFL should start focusing on eradicating the BS behind the play niggles and non play involved hitting, pinching, slapping and shoving. Feel sorry for Caminiti, minding his business and being hit and just responds.

How would you propose they do that? You'd have to have zoomed in HD footage of every section of the ground in the hope you see something.

It's just not plausible.

 

[jj1978]

How would you propose they do that? You'd have to have zoomed in HD footage of every section of the ground in the hope you see something.

It's just not plausible.

not 100% watch, but if you run the gauntlet and are caught either by camera or umpire. The AFL are so worried about the look of the game and parents views and I think this behind play nonsense when a player is unsuspecting (not in play) of getting jabbed, pinched, banged is a lot worse of a look to the game than other things that have been touted as such.

 

[Jatz]

not 100% watch, but if you run the gauntlet and are caught either by camera or umpire. The AFL are so worried about the look of the game and parents views and I think this behind play nonsense when a player is unsuspecting (not in play) of getting jabbed, pinched, banged is a lot worse of a look to the game than other things that have been touted as such.

Hard to agree with this. Even if there was pinching (or something of that ilk), the pinching isn't a worse look than the retaliation and a concussion.

Ideally there wouldn't be any niggle but ultimately, players have to be more disciplined than to fight back.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Well ….the filth player hit him first but didn’t connect/knock him out so maybe a fine for him?

caminitti Knocks him out so probably misses games …maybe reduced due to filth player instigating it ??

Wouldn't have thought so, it was an unnecessary and reckless and undisciplined act by the Saints player that had the potential to do some serious damage to Murphy. I hate Collingwood as much as any one here (maybe more so) but that was indefensible.

Got to get a month off for that (at least)

 

[F_therest]

Well ….the filth player hit him first but didn’t connect/knock him out so maybe a fine for him?

caminitti Knocks him out so probably misses games …maybe reduced due to filth player instigating it ??

The other playing instigating niggle won't have any impact nor should it.

 

[DangerousD]

How would you propose they do that? You'd have to have zoomed in HD footage of every section of the ground in the hope you see something.

It's just not plausible.

Not in the way you are suggesting, but if you recall a few years ago the Hawks defender caught pinching the arms of his opponent multiple times, the opponents arms were covered in bruises, if that happens, 2 week suspension, $10,000 fine.

I don’t understand such small fines for people on large money acting as some form of deterrent.

Things like gut punches, diving, pinching should be the easiest things to get out of the game, if there was a desire.

 

[DangerousD]

The other playing instigating niggle won't have any impact nor should it.

On this and I’m being serious although not sure if it applies in this instance.

Rules and regulations don’t override the law.

If you punch me, I’m allowed to punch you back, reasonable force comes in to play, so im not sure in this case if the retaliation can be classed as reasonable.

So can the Saints player actually claim self defence? If both are a punch then I don’t see how both don’t get suspended.

 

[JustaBattler]

The other playing instigating niggle won't have any impact nor should it.

Correct Murphy should have his own separate penalty imposed.

 

[Countryblueswitnotattoos]

How would you propose they do that? You'd have to have zoomed in HD footage of every section of the ground in the hope you see something.

It's just not plausible.

There are 4 umpires around the ground. Start paying downfield free-kicks and this nonsense will stop pretty quickly. It's long overdue

 

[F_therest]

Correct Murphy should have his own separate penalty imposed.

Which probably will be nothing given he hit him in the body which the AFL doesn't seem to really care about unless it's with really high force

 

[F_therest]

On this and I’m being serious although not sure if it applies in this instance.

Rules and regulations don’t override the law.

If you punch me, I’m allowed to punch you back, reasonable force comes in to play, so im not sure in this case if the retaliation can be classed as reasonable.

So can the Saints player actually claim self defence? If both are a punch then I don’t see how both don’t get suspended.

One was to the body and Caminiti ultimately was fine. Murphy got hit in the head and concussed. That's the difference.

There won't be any 'self defence' argument in AFL footy.

 

[Accidental genius]

Wouldn't have thought so, it was an unnecessary and reckless and undisciplined act by the Saints player that had the potential to do some serious damage to Murphy. I hate Collingwood as much as any one here (maybe more so) but that was indefensible.

Got to get a month off for that (at least)

so what filth player did is fair play?

 

[Accidental genius]

The other playing instigating niggle won't have any impact nor should it.

Maybe not but filth player hit as well so he needs to get some sort of punishment too

 

[Accidental genius]

One was to the body and Caminiti ultimately was fine. Murphy got hit in the head and concussed. That's the difference.

There won't be any 'self defence' argument in AFL footy.

Are you sure hit was body? I might need to look again but it looked like a high punch that didn’t connect properly?

 

[Jatz]

There are 4 umpires around the ground. Start paying downfield free-kicks and this nonsense will stop pretty quickly. It's long overdue

How do you want 4 umpires to see 44 players on a ground? It's fanciful.

All you'll get then is some acts being punished and not others.

 

[Wickzki]

How would you propose they do that? You'd have to have zoomed in HD footage of every section of the ground in the hope you see something.

It's just not plausible.

The amount of stuff that the goal umpire would pick up that is reportable would be staggering.

I can't remember the last time I saw a game where the key defender didn't initiate something at the start of a quarter. Usually a love tap to say "I got you today" but if you cut that out it'd cut a lot of shit out.

 

[DangerousD]

One was to the body and Caminiti ultimately was fine. Murphy got hit in the head and concussed. That's the difference.

There won't be any 'self defence' argument in AFL footy.

This doesnt seem like the situation where it would come up, but I see it happening one day and I’m surprised it hasn’t happened already.

A situation that springs to mind is when Yarran left hooks Chapman from Geelong, if I recall correctly he hets Chapman straight in the jaw, if Chapman was to then smack him back, I don’t see how he is allowed to be punished. But this is just a hypothetical, one day we will see

 

[thylacine60]

There are 4 umpires around the ground. Start paying downfield free-kicks and this nonsense will stop pretty quickly. It's long overdue

they do